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Czar One Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 12:04 AM
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THIS IS WHY THEY THINK WE ARE STUPID
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6173399/Charles-Darwin-film-too-controversial-for-religious-America.html

Charles Darwin film "too controversial for religious America"

A British film about Charles Darwin has failed to find a US distributor because his theory of evolution is too controversial for American audiences, according to its producer.

By Anita Singh, Showbusiness Editor



Creation, starring Paul Bettany, details Darwin's "struggle between faith and reason" as he wrote On The Origin of Species. It depicts him as a man who loses faith in God following the death of his beloved 10-year-old daughter, Annie.

The film was chosen to open the Toronto Film Festival and had its British premiere on Sunday. It has been sold in almost every territory around the world, from Australia to Scandinavia. However, US distributors have resolutely passed on a film which will prove hugely divisive in a country where, according to a Gallup poll conducted in February, only 39 per cent of Americans believe in the theory of evolution.

Movieguide.org, an influential site which reviews films from a Christian perspective, described Darwin as the father of eugenics and denounced him as "a racist, a bigot and an 1800s naturalist whose legacy is mass murder". His "half-baked theory" directly influenced Adolf Hitler and led to "atrocities, crimes against humanity, cloning and genetic engineering", the site stated.

The film has sparked fierce debate on US Christian websites, with a typical comment dismissing evolution as "a silly theory with a serious lack of evidence to support it despite over a century of trying".

Jeremy Thomas, the Oscar-winning producer of Creation, said he was astonished that such attitudes exist 150 years after On The Origin of Species was published. "That's what we're up against. In 2009. It's amazing," he said.

"The film has no distributor in America. It has got a deal everywhere else in the world but in the US, and it's because of what the film is about. People have been saying this is the best film they've seen all year, yet nobody in the US has picked it up.

"It is unbelievable to us that this is still a really hot potato in America. There's still a great belief that He made the world in six days. It's quite difficult for we in the UK to imagine religion in America. We live in a country which is no longer so religious. But in the US, outside of New York and Los Angeles, religion rules.

"Charles Darwin is, I suppose, the hero of the film. But we tried to make the film in a very even-handed way. Darwin wasn't saying 'kill all religion', he never said such a thing, but he is a totem for people."

Creation was developed by BBC Films and the UK Film Council, and stars Bettany's real-life wife Jennifer Connelly as Darwin's deeply religious wife, Emma.

It is based on the book, Annie's Box, by Darwin's great-great-grandson, Randal Keynes, and portrays the naturalist as a family man tormented by the death in 1851 of Annie, his favourite child. She is played in the film by 10-year-old newcomer Martha West, the daughter of The Wire star Dominic West.

Early reviews have raved about the film. The Hollywood Reporter said: "It would be a great shame if those with religious convictions spurned the film out of hand as they will find it even-handed and wise."

Mr Thomas, whose previous films include The Last Emperor and Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence, said he hoped the reviews would help to secure a distributor.




Blessed is the Name of The Lord!
:puke:
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 12:08 AM
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1. Yes, blessed is the Name of the Lord
And also, evolution is a biological and historical fact. They are not mutually exclusive.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 12:10 AM
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2. And we bow our head in prayer
next they will be burning the books. We are making accommodations for the village idiots, I swear.
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Czar One Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 01:11 AM
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9. Hey.....
...we elected a village idiot in 2004!
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 01:41 AM
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13. "...burning the books"??? Coming right up!
Edited on Fri Sep-18-09 01:49 AM by pnorman
"Life and Liberty for All Who Believe":
http://www.videosift.com/video/Life-and-Liberty-for-All-Who-Believe (At: ~00:43 into the video)

pnorman
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 12:10 AM
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3. Definitely one good reason among many to think that. And it's true.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 12:11 AM
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4. I guess RW fundamentalist Nuts
haven't read Teillard de Chardin,

THEY ARE BRAINLESS IDIOTS!
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IDFbunny Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 12:18 AM
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5. Will they release BluRay?
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 12:24 AM
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6. Or the producer is creating a fauxtroversy to give the project a little heat.
Edited on Fri Sep-18-09 12:38 AM by Stevenmarc
I'm having a tough time buying that a BBC films project is having a problem with American distribution it's not like they are some tiny independent film maker
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 12:26 AM
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7. You've GOT to be kidding! The U.S. has distributed controversial films before.
This is ridiculous!

This is also dangerous. Taht a loony fringe has taken control of the country and is dictating not just what their followers see, but what others can and CANNOT see.

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Hubert H. Hubert Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 12:35 AM
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8. No, THIS is why they think we're stupid




Of course, some of our fellow citizens who happen to be sanity-impaired due to their overzealous religious beliefs aren't helping to present our nation in the most positive light.








In other words, fundies are nuts.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:35 AM
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19. ...or, THIS is why they KNOW we're stupid:


Establi$hment and majority perception and consequent reaction to the illegal installation of Bush/Cheney/PNAC...not once, but twice!

Much easier to dismiss unfavorable facts as conspiracy theories. Never underestimate the power of denial.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 01:25 AM
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10. This is evidence the notion of Dumbing Down America has Validity
The Masters having mega influence for a very long time, some theorize, intentionally keep the economic middle and below, below other Nations and to the point of believing/accepting Fantasy over Truth and Reality....They want cheap labor....

They use religion as a TOOL

TO FOOL

So They can RULE
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 01:27 AM
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11. Publicity stunt.
The guy's trying to get his movie sold.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:27 AM
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18. +1 - Bill Maher's Religious got distribution, Jesus Camp was in theaters and HBO(?)
It seems the filmmaker is trying to drum up controversy/
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 01:28 AM
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12. Look, if something is blatantly obvious then it must be a lie or wrong
unless it is convenient for me personally. Anything is true if I say it is. I now bow my head.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 01:45 AM
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14. I would have been interested in seeing this movie, but not after
this ridiculuous attempt to get publicity. I don't believe this story for a second. American theaters will show anything they think will make money.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 04:44 AM
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17. Maybe the theaters don't think they will make money..
We have a lot of theaters in our area but we had to drive over thirty miles to see Fahrenheit 911, it wasn't playing anywhere close at all.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 11:02 AM
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21. It's not up to theaters, but distributors.
Edited on Fri Sep-18-09 11:03 AM by redqueen
Are you saying that the claim that they can't find a distributor is a lie?

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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 04:32 AM
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15. Czar One, please review the DU rules on copyright
"Do not post entire copyrighted articles. If you wish to reference an article, provide a brief excerpt and include a link to the original source. Generally, excerpts should not exceed three or four paragraphs."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules_detailed.html
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 04:36 AM
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16. Yeah, why should we believe you?
You're a Czar. That's same as commie, ain't it?


















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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 11:00 AM
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20. I am the light and the way ...
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 11:07 AM
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22. NOT TRUE. It's a publicity stunt for a dull movie that's having a problem getting
a distributor.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2009/09/are_christians_really_keeping.html?mid=agenda--20090916

You've no doubt been subjected to a million tweets from outraged friends and invited to join Facebook groups defending Creation against the mobs of pitchfork-wielding creationists massing against it. But maybe the movie's just not that good? And a money loser to boot?

For instance! Hardly anyone liked Creation when it screened last week in Toronto. (Sample quote: "Flat, dull, and painful to sit through.") And it stars two actors who, despite being former Brooklynites and adorable and married, are not exactly stars with box-office clout.

Let's see: Period biopic about a writer most people don't feel that strongly about? Marginal lead actor who's liked but not loved? British pedigree and bad reviews? This sounds exactly like the kind of movie that some distributor would have snapped up three years ago in an attempt to put together an Oscar campaign and then would have lost a big fat wad of cash on. It's like the 2009 version of Miss Potter, but with Paul Bettany in the Renée Zellweger role.

More to the point, the article in the Daily Mail (motto: "Okay, George Clooney didn't actually write that") doesn't cite any actual instances of actual distributors shying away from the movie because of fears of Christian protest. It just quotes a guy with a vested interest in raising a little controversy around his movie. (We asked the film's publicists if the producers could provide any evidence to back up the claim and were told, "They remain optimistic that they will get U.S. distribution and are working hard to make that happen.")
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