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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 08:00 PM
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Why we Are Plagued by Heartless and “Spineless” Leaders
Much has been said by progressives in recent years to the effect that the Republican Party is heartless and the Democratic Party is spineless. I will agree that the Republican Party – its elected politicians, that is – is heartless. Characterizing the Democratic Party as spineless is a somewhat more complicated issue. I am a very non-judgmental person, and I don’t like to characterize them as such. Let’s just say that not many of them are up to the monumental task set before them of standing up for decency and the American people, while simultaneously trying to hang on to their jobs and influence.

That the American public is aware of the problem is amply demonstrated by abysmal Congressional job approval ratings over the past several years. Shortly before Democrats consolidated their control of Congress in the 2008 elections, Congressional job approval had dropped into the teens, plunging as low as 12% approval (to 79% disapproval). Since then Congressional job approval has improved somewhat, rising into the high 30s by May 2009, but now is again down into the 20s.

So why on earth do we keep electing these people? Clearly, our system – that is, our democracy – has become seriously dysfunctional. Although the vast majority of Americans strongly disapprove of their Congress, a good majority of them approve of their own Congresspersons. That is only because of the vast sums of money that are injected into our political process. By contributing vast sums of money to politicians who show an eagerness to support the corporate agenda of the rich and powerful, two evil results are accomplished simultaneously: 1) Those politicians are “persuaded” to support the agenda of those who shower money upon them; and 2) That same money, used to spread disinformation, confuses voters to the point where only the most astute are aware of the anti-people agenda pushed by their elected representatives.

Corporate control of the media adds substantially to the problem. And they don’t even have to pay for that. Through their control of the media they distort reality to persuade many Americans that Congressional Democrats are way left of center, when in fact they are right of center. There are many Americans whose opinions are to the left of most Congressional Democrats, and yet they are led to believe that their interests are better represented by far right Republicans.

One of the most unfortunate results of corporate control of the media is that even Congressional Democrats who can’t be bought are afraid to stray too far from the corporate line, for fear of being lambasted by the corporate media. That kind of attitude is often seen as “lacking spine”. And perhaps it is to some extent.


THE DOUBLE STANDARD

The “double standard” is perhaps the primary mechanism by which the corporate media pushes its agenda on the American people. There are way too many Americans who think that something is legitimate “news” just because the media talks about it incessantly. Similarly, we are led to believe that issues that are not covered by the corporate media are not worthy of our attention – for example the toxic effects of corporate control of the news media. Here are some examples of how the corporate news media applies a double standard in the way it deals with liberals, progressives, and the powerless on the one hand, as opposed to how it deals with the powerful.


Accountability for crimes

ACORN, an advocate organization for low- and moderate-income families that helps people register to vote and provides a variety of other social services, has long been a favorite target for right wing and corporate media attack. Republicans, with abundant help from the corporate media, have made a great big deal out of occasional individual misbehavior by some ACORN employees. One of the most well known incidents was the submitting of fraudulent voter registrations by some ACORN employees, in an attempt to defraud ACORN itself into paying them more money. Republicans made this incident into a conspiracy of widespread “voter fraud”, though it had nothing to do with voter fraud, since the fraudulent registration forms could not be used to allow voters to vote more than once.

Thus Republicans, with much help from the corporate media, made “voter fraud” into a widely publicized issue in our country, claiming that Democrats regularly engage in it, though it is quite rare. By contrast, Republican operatives perpetrated the illegal purging of tens of thousands of mostly Democratic voters in Florida in 2000 and hundreds of thousands in Ohio in 2004, providing the margin of “victory” in both of George W. Bush’s presidential runs. Yet, the “mainstream” news media hardly covered these attacks on American democracy.

Because of recent apparent malfeasance by a few ACORN employees in giving improper tax advice in the course of a sting operation, Congress voted by large margins to defund ACORN. Yet by comparison Congress routinely turns their backs on much worse malfeasance on the part of powerful corporations. For example, consider Blackwater USA, the mercenary corporation that contracted with the Bush administration to provide “diplomatic security” in Iraq. On September 16th, 2007, Blackwater forces protecting a U.S. State Department official opened fire on an Iraqi vehicle. The incident was described in The Nation by Jeremy Scahill:

Inside the vehicle was… a young Iraqi family – man, woman and infant – whose crime appeared to be panicking in a chaotic traffic situation… Gunfire rang out in Nisour Square as people fled for their lives. Witnesses described a horrifying scene of indiscriminate shooting by the Blackwater guards. In all, as many as 28 Iraqis may have been killed…

Yet little was done about this, and our government has continued to dole out huge amounts of money to Blackwater ever since. So, let’s ask ourselves which is a more serious crime: filling out a few fraudulent forms in order to make a little extra money, or killing 28 civilians in a country that we’re supposed to be protecting? In my opinion, the latter is at least a hundred times more serious than the former. Yet our media makes a great big deal out of the former while barely mentioning the latter. Where is the sense of proportion?


Misinformation

One of the most important purposes of a free press is to provide a nation’s citizens with accurate information. Yet our corporate media routinely remains silent in the face of blatant lies spouted by right wing politicians in the full knowledge that they won’t be called to account for their lies. That isn’t professional neutrality. It’s simply a shirking of their responsibility.

When the Bush administration led us into war in Iraq, many of its arguments for war were obvious lies, while none of them were supported by any credible evidence. Yet our corporate media maintained silence on these lies at best, or supported them at worst. For example, on September 7, 2002, Bush claimed that a new U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) report stated Iraq is six months from developing a nuclear weapon – though no such report existed. Isn’t that something that should have been of interest of the American public? Shouldn’t Bush’s lie have been a major scandal? Yet, our corporate media said nothing about this blatant lie to lead us into war. What would they have they said if a Democratic president told a lie like that?

When Republicans try to scare the American people away from supporting a public health insurance option, they rant about government “death panels”, rationing of health care, denying American citizens their choice of doctor, and taking over the health care industry. Why don’t the “mainstream” media ever step in to clarify for the American people that health care is currently severely rationed by the health insurance industry and that the public option is an option, not a mandate? Isn’t it important that Americans have that information clarified for them? What is a free press for, if not to provide our citizens with the knowledge they need in order to make informed political decisions?

Then there was the consistent effort by the “mainstream” media in the run-up to the 2000 presidential election to paint Al Gore as a liar, though it never did document a single Al Gore lie, while missing numerous opportunities to show George W. Bush for the liar that he was – and is. When Cokie Roberts, a supposedly neutral “mainstream” talking head, was asked why the media utterly failed to expose George Bush’s lies during the 2000 election campaign, she replied “The story line is Bush isn’t smart enough and Gore isn’t straight enough. In Bush’s case, you know he’s just misstating as opposed to it playing into a story line about him being a serial exaggerator”. And that’s what today’s “mainstream” journalism is all about: “story lines” – created by the corporate media to serve their own purposes.


Handling of presidential candidates

Tim Russert and the show that he moderated, Meet the Press, have long been regarded as being representative of mainstream journalism at its finest and most professionally neutral. But consideration of how he treated the 2004 presidential candidates puts the lie to that idea.

George W. Bush appeared on Meet the Press on February 8th, 2004, desperate for some good press in support of his presidential re-election campaign, following the exposure of his lies about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq by chief U.S. weapons inspector, David Kay. Bush chose Russert for that task, and Russert didn’t disappoint him. Anothony Lappe describes the interview in his book, “True Lies”:

For over an hour, six million viewers were treated to one of the biggest journalistic letdowns of the election year. With so much on the table – from the nonexistent WMDs to the Iraqi quagmire to accusations that Bush was AWOL from the National Guard – Russert could have hog-tied the president and left him twisting in the wind. Instead, he let him off easy, failing to counter Bush’s dodges with obvious follow-up questions.

In that same interview, in response to Russert’s asking if he would authorize the release of his military records to settle the question of whether or not Bush was AWOL from the National Guard, Bush answered “Yes, absolutely. We did so in 2000, by the way.” Russert, regarded as one of the most well prepared journalists on television, must have known that that was a bald faced lie. Researcher Marty Heldt had previously publicly made clear that his efforts to obtain information on Bush’s military records through the Freedom of Information Act had been rejected. But Russert just let that slide.

In stark contrast to Russert’s handling of George W. Bush, when he interviewed Howard Dean, then frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination, on June 22nd, 2003, he did everything he could to destroy him.

Pulling out a highly partisan analysis of Dean’s tax plan, Russert asked Dean, “Can you honestly go across the country and say, “I’m going to raise your taxes 4,000 percent or 107 percent and be elected?” Then Russert erroneously informed his viewers that Dean’s teenage son had been indicted for stealing beer. And later, when Dean was unable to answer Russert’s question about the exact number of men and women currently serving in the U.S. military, Russert went after him like a pitbull, lecturing him, “As commander in Chief, you should know that.”

And who could forget the “Dean Scream”, which buried Dean’s presidential candidacy once and for all. Picking up Dean’s fiery oratory directly from his microphone, which tuned out a room full of thousands of people screaming and cheering, the way it was presented hundreds of times to TV audiences across the country made Dean sound like some kind of a madman.


Pillorying selected politicians for failing to tow the corporate line

Senator Richard Durbin made the “mistake” in 2005 of telling the American people about Bush administration torture before our corporate media was ready to hear about it – or rather at a point in time when they thought that they might be able to keep the whole sordid affair under wraps. Durbin said in his speech:

Imagine if the president had followed Colin Powell’s advice and respected our treaty obligations. How would things have been different? We still would have the ability to hold detainees and interrogate them aggressively… We would be able to do everything we need to do to keep our country safe…

When you read some of the graphic descriptions of what has occurred here – I almost hesitate to put them in the record, and yet they have to be added to this debate. Let me read to you what on FBI agent saw. And I quote from his report:

On a couple of occasions, I entered interview rooms to find a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food, or water. Most times they urinated or defecated on themselves, and had been left there for eighteen to twenty-four hours or more. On one occasion, the air conditioning had been turned down so far and the temperature was so cold in the room, that the barefooted detainee was shaking with cold… On another occasion, the air conditioner had been turned off, making the temperature in the unventilated room well over 100 degrees. The detainee was almost unconscious on the floor, with a pile of hair next to him. He had apparently been literally pulling his hair out throughout the night. On another occasion…. with the detainee chained hand and foot in the fetal position on the tile floor.

If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in the gulags, or some mad regime – Pol Pot or others – that had no concern for human beings….

It is not too late. I hope we will learn from history. I hope we will change course. The president could declare the United States will apply the Geneva Conventions to the war on terrorism. He could declare, as he should, that the United States will not, under any circumstances, subject any detainee to torture, or cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment. The administration could give all detainees a meaningful opportunity to challenge their detention before a neutral decision maker.

Such a change would dramatically improve our image and it would make us safer. I hope this administration will choose that course. If they do not, Congress must step in.

This was one of the most courageous speeches by a Congressperson that I’ve ever heard. Durbin was attempting to do what our press is supposed to do – provide information to the American people and to Congress in the hope of stimulating desperately needed discourse and enabling them to make informed decisions. Instead he became the target of such venomous abuse that he was pressured into apologizing for his courageous speech.


“ILLIGITIMATE” AND “LEGITIMVATE” VOICES

One of the best clues to the state of the media in our country can be ascertained by considering who they present as legitimate sources of news and opinion. In their effort to appear balanced or neutral, they give us political talk shows that pretend to pit conservatives against liberals, but in reality pit fringe right wingers against moderates or those with little or no ideological motivation. When shown side by side with fringe right wingers, most normal people appear liberal by comparison. Those who are actually liberal, on the other hand, are largely marginalized – treated as if they have little or no legitimate role in our national political dialogue:


“Illegitimate” voices

This weekend I glanced at my TV and saw in quick succession Michael Moore, Eliot Spitzer and Paul Krugman talking to me about serious political issues. For a brief moment – probably less than a second – I thought “Wow, this is great”. Then I realized that this was not a “mainstream” TV show. It was “HBO on Demand”, with an episode of Comedy Central, hosted by Bill Maher. Well, it may have been comedy, but the issues were far more serious than what you usually get with “mainstream” news. And the speakers were far better qualified to talk to the American people than the hacks we usually see on “mainstream” news.

Yet “mainstream” TV news avoids these kinds of people like the plague. They are considered fringe liberals or not credible for any reason under the sun. You rarely see them on “mainstream” TV outside of MSNBC’s “Countdown” and “The Rachel Maddow Show” And here is why:

Paul Krugman
Krugman is a Nobel Prize winning economist whose primary interest for a long time has been to persuade our country to pass a viable form of universal health care. He has been unusually forthright and clear in explaining why our country needs it. From his book, “The Conscience of a Liberal”:

The principal reason to reform American health care is simply that it would improve the quality of life for most Americans… There is, however, another important reason for health care reform. It’s the same reasons movement conservatives were so anxious to kill Clinton’s plan. That plan’s success, said William Kristol, “would signal the rebirth of centralized welfare-state policy” – by which he really meant that universal health care would give new life to the New Deal idea that society should help its less fortunate members. Indeed it would – and that’s a big argument in its favor…

Getting universal care should be the key domestic priority for modern liberals. Once they succeed there, they can turn to the broader, more difficult task of reining in American inequality.

And this is what he said about the need for “bipartisanship” when it comes to fighting for universal health care:

The central fact of modern American political life is the control of the Republican Party by movement conservatives, whose vision of what America should be is completely antithetical to that of the progressive movement. Because of that control, the notion, beloved by political pundits, that we can make progress through bipartisan consensus is simply foolish. On health care reform, which is the first domestic priority for progressives, there’s no way to achieve a bipartisan compromise between Republicans who want to strangle Medicare and Democrats who want guaranteed health insurance for all. When a health care reform plan is actually presented to Congress, the leaders of movement conservatism will do what they did in 1993 – urge Republicans to oppose the plan in any form, lest successful health reform undermine the movement conservative agenda…

To be a progressive, then, means being partisan – at least for now. The only way a progressive agenda can be enacted is if Democrats have both the presidency and a large enough majority in Congress to overcome Republican opposition. And achieving that kind of political preponderance will require leadership that makes opponents of the progressive agenda pay a political price for their obstructionism – leadership that, like FDR, welcomes the hatred of the interest groups trying to prevent us from making our society better.

Oh, heavens! He’s not only acting partisan, but he’s trying to explode the myth that bipartisanship is what makes our country function. No wonder the “mainstream” news media dislikes him so much. So what if three quarters of the American people agree with him on this issue? He’s preaching socialism! He’s a fringe liberal!

Michael Moore
Michael Moore is forever trying to question the way our country is run. He produced “Fahrenheit 9/11”, which questioned the way our government handled the worst attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor. And now he’s at it again, with his new film, questioning the very economic system that brought us to our current state of economic inequality. Summarizing his new movie, he said:

Amidst all the Wall Street bad guys and corrupt members of Congress exposed in "Capitalism: A Love Story," I pose a simple question in the movie: "Is capitalism a sin?" I go on to ask, "Would Jesus be a capitalist?" Would he belong to a hedge fund? Would he sell short? Would he approve of a system that has allowed the richest 1% to have more financial wealth than the 95% under them combined?

I have come to believe that there is no getting around the fact that capitalism is opposite everything that Jesus (and Moses and Mohammed and Buddha) taught. All the great religions are clear about one thing: It is evil to take the majority of the pie and leave what's left for everyone to fight over. Jesus… told us that we had to be our brother's and sister's keepers and that the riches that did exist were to be divided fairly. He said that if you failed to house the homeless and feed the hungry, you'd have a hard time finding the pin code to the pearly gates.

Eliot Spitzer
Most Americans believe that a sex scandal was what drummed Eliot Spitzer out of politics. Well, then consider this:

The exposure of New York State Governor Eliot Spitzer’s tryst with a luxury call girl had little to do with the Bush administration’s high moral standards for public servants… Timing suggests that Spitzer was likely a target of a White House and Wall Street operation to silence one of its most dangerous and vocal critics of their handling of the current financial market crisis.

Spitzer had become increasingly public in blaming the Bush administration for the subprime crisis…. On February 14, the Washington Post published an editorial by Spitzer titled, “Predatory Lenders’ Partner in Crime: How the Bush Administration Stopped the States From Stepping In to Help Consumers,” which charged, “Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which the federal government was turning a blind eye.”


“Legitimate” voices

Then we have some of the most well known talking heads in television, corporatist hacks presented as serious and legitimate journalists. Here is just a minute fraction of the numerous examples to choose from:

George Stephanopoulos
Stephanopoulos is touted as a liberal or a moderate. But when he was awarded the privilege of co-moderating one of the 2008 Democratic presidential debates he used the occasion to push the discredited theory of trickle down economics by implying that raising taxes on the wealthy during a recession is bad for the economy, while disguising his lecture as a question. This is one of his “questions” to then Senator Obama:

Senator McCain signaled that the No. 1 one issue in the general election campaign on the economy is going to be taxes…. And if the economy is as weak a year from now, as it is today, will you continue – will you persist in your plans to roll back the President Bush's tax cuts for wealthier Americans?

Tom Brokaw
Tom Brokaw is another one of those talking heads whom our corporate media makes out to liberal or moderate. But when he got a shot at Barack Obama on Meet the Press less than a month before the presidential election, he did a real hatchet job on him in an attempt to derail his campaign, in favor of John McCain. In an interview with Colin Powell, to dampen the effect of Powell’s endorsement of Obama, Brokaw said, “But there will be some who will say this is an African-American… supporting another African-American because of race.” He also castigated Obama for opposing Bush’s “surge” in Iraq. But of all the utterly stupid things he had to say that day, perhaps the stupidest was his criticism of Obama for his trip to Berlin. He used surrogates to lambast Obama’s trip to Berlin:

Charles Krauthammer, the conservative columnist said, "He hasn't earned the right to speak there." And David Brooks, for The New York Times, who was an early admirer of your rhetoric in the early stages of the campaign had this to say in his column about your appearance in Berlin: "When John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan went to Berlin, their rhetoric soared, but their optimism was grounded in the reality of politics, conflict and hard choices. Kennedy didn't dream of the universal brotherhood of man. He drew lines that reflected hard realities. Reagan didn't call for a kumbaya moment. He cited tough policies that sparked harsh political disagreements. Much of Obama's Berlin speech fed the illusion that we could solve our problems if only people mystically come together…

Pat Buchanan
Nobody could get away with trying to claim that Pat Buchanan is liberal, or even moderate. But the fact that he is time and again presented on TV as someone with an opinion worthy of serious thought shows just how low “mainstream” TV has sunk. How could someone who, in the 21st Century defends slavery be presented as legitimate unless that person is a highly valued tool of the corporatocracy? Here is Buchanan defending slavery:

The Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these: First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

My oh my! How many people today could get away with defending slavery, and still be considered a “respectable” political celebrity?


CONCLUSION

To a much greater extent than most Americans realize, our corporate news media is responsible for the perilous state of our democracy in general and the woeful quality of so many of our elected representatives in particular. They relentlessly push there agenda on us, present corporatist hacks as serious journalists, and attempt to marginalize or destroy politicians who dare to question the corporate status quo in our country. Under such a system – a system in which politicians and talking heads are richly rewarded for advancing corporate interests, and in which standing against the corporate agenda puts one at risk of being publicly and relentlessly lambasted or humiliated – is it any wonder that the corporatocracy finds so many lackeys to help them push their agenda?

What a certain website has to say about the Republican Party applies equally well to their corporate masters:

Since the New Deal, Republicans have been on the wrong side of every issue of concern to ordinary Americans; Social Security, the war in Vietnam, equal rights, civil liberties, church-state separation, consumer issues, public education, reproductive freedom, national health care, labor issues, gun policy, campaign-finance reform, the environment and tax fairness. No political party could remain so consistently wrong by accident. The only rational conclusion is that, despite their cynical "family values" propaganda, the Republican Party… betray(s) the interests of the American people in favor of plutocratic and corporate interests, and absolutist religious groups.

It’s well past tine that the American people and their progressive representatives in Congress clearly recognize the corporate news media for what it is: people hired to advance the interests of the corporatocracy at the expense of the “American people. To the extent that we and our elected representatives recognize them for what they are we will be able to say the things that need to be said. As long as the best of our elected representatives live in fear of crossing the line that the corporate media draws in the sand, they will be unable to represent the people who elected them to serve our country.

That is why Alan Grayson’s recent crossing of that line – and refusing to come back – is so refreshing and inspiring. It is not the least bit surprising that he would get lambasted for daring to accuse Republicans of being responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans by virtue of their long-standing and successful (so far) fight against universal health care. Nor is it the least bit surprising that the Republican Party would pretend that Grayson’s words are qualitatively different and worse than their own claims of “death panels” associated with any Democratic proposal that would provide health care to those who need it.

Well, there IS one big difference between Grayson’s accusations and theirs: Grayson’s accusations are true. And by refusing to back down, maybe he’ll serve as the example that will break down the damn that lets loose a great and continuing torrent of truth against the greedy elites that have subjugated the interests of the American people for so long. As long as we’re not afraid to renounce our oppressors we have hope.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 08:08 PM
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1. We elect them
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 08:29 PM
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2. ecause the media destroys any decent candidate like Howard Dean before they can become truly viable
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:15 AM
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15. Or they pillory already viable men like Jimmy Carter for wearing sweaters or
Albert Gore for wearing "earth tones" (still makes me retch to think of that one).
Or sometimes the ones that can make it past the media circus are bumped off, like the Kennedy brothers.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 02:15 PM
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37. Russert is a pain
In particular he seems to be setting himself up as gatekeeper. He queried Kucinich about a stupid comment that was attributed tohim in a shirley McClaine book.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:57 PM
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45. Didn't your mother teach you to not speak ill of the dead? n/t
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 09:44 AM
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53. Really?
So I suppose I should also not speak ill of:
Ronald Reagan
Richard Nixon
Joseph McCarthy
Roy Cohn
Joseph Stalin
and a host of other public personages?


Please. Facts or no facts, spare me this sillness.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 08:31 PM
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3. sadly, we are forced to conclude they reflect either the heartlessness -- or the spinelessness --
of their constituents....

Since nothing has been done to keep the spineless or heartless from the levers of power...
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:56 PM
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44. A correct conclusion indeed
We elect them and then re-elect them. I have lost all tolerance for both the apathetic and the so-called "activists".
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 08:33 PM
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4. I am always glad to see a post by TFC! nt
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:20 PM
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39. Thank you PufPuf
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 08:35 PM
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5. Our current system demands that candidates get lots of money, making it super easy for the rich
to buy them. I see no way to end this.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:22 PM
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41. The system must be changed
I see several possibilities:

1. Strict limits on the amount that any individual or corporation can contribute to a candidate. Supposedly the McCain Feingold has such a limit, but the practice of "money bundling", whereby corporations extort money from their employees for campaign "contributions", get around this.

2. Federal funding of election campaigns

3. Some way to lessen the effect of money -- perhaps by some sort of education effort that helps people think for themselves.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:50 PM
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51. Those are all great ideas. Now we just have to sell Congress. nt
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:56 PM
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52. Yeah, that's the hard part
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 09:44 PM
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6. These are all valid points that are fast destroying this country.
They do these things by easily controlling the stupid, the ignorant and the bigots amongst us. With virtually all the resources, they only need to control those 30% of the dumbest, because by nature those, for the most part, are loud vicious bullies, willing to kill,rob, steal and cheat for them. The corporate press is there to give them direction and protect them when they get caught and make that 30% the majority.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 01:30 PM
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36. I've got news for you. There are voters in the dem party who
actually believe in this bullshit american dream and think they're in the "club." They are of the belief that capitalism will "recover" and return to "normal"/status quo. They also believe they're in the MAJORITY.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:00 PM
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7. Greed & apathy?
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:07 PM
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8. KR+14. I can't even express how much I, for one, appreciate and value your
insights and posts. Thank you SO *VERY* MUCH, TFC, and..... you really should write a book, if you haven't already. :yourock:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:25 PM
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42. Thank you inna, I'd love to do that
Maybe when I retire.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:09 PM
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9. k i c k
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 11:07 PM
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10. knr - still reading :) n/t
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 11:12 PM
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11. excellent bookmarking
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 11:40 PM
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12. Excellent post, Time for change. Rec and kick.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 11:41 PM
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13. Money talks.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:06 AM
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14. K&R. //nt tonight.
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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:17 AM
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16. They are individually supported by a majority of their constiuents
But not by a majority of Americans.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 01:48 AM
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17. I talk about the double standard with my parents and others often
and I'm going to use some of this info - so thanks! :hi:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 06:47 PM
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46. Thank you for letting me know
It's great to know that this will be put to good use. :hi:
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 01:59 AM
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18. I've said over and over again here - esp. recently, that the media is one of the if not THE
biggest problem. Fix that - and a lot of the country's problems would be solved. Otherwise, we have corporate control of gov't - corprats and congresscritters in a constant orgy with each other - ie: fascism.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:37 PM
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40. I agree. n/t
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:50 PM
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50. Yes. Without a corporate news media
George W. Bush -- a psychopath of limited intelligence with no observable redeeming qualities -- could not have won 10% of the vote.

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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 02:08 AM
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19. There are internal non-corruption issues as well. I think we got really Alan Combsey
after the 68 DNC. Not all at once and not everyone but we waxed namby pamby over time.

We also became more cuckolded by the pure weight of the Reagan Revolution, especially during the Newt years. By the time we emerged from that we'd been knocked on our heels to the point of not wanting to pop our heads up.

There's also naturally a lot of non-firebrand and wonkish folk that would gravitate to our party rather than the roidragicans. Its been like that for a long time but we used to have more tough guys. There might even be a correlation to a decline in military or sports experience.

There's also the issue of there not being any really, really liberal states. Some are true blue but there's no hard left state while their are a good amount of hard core full on batshit Reich Wing states so the relative contrast of firebrands on each side in the Senate is going to be kinda night and day so we have no choice but to go to the House to see people that can really tee off but even there NO ONE on the left has a district safe enough to go absolutely nuts like all kinds of Republicans can, though some of it is because of TMaC's complete bailout of all but the most competitive or safe areas that really went overboard on the JFK plan.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:34 AM
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23. I think there is a very strong relationship between what you note here and
what I discuss in the OP.

You note the problem that the Reagan Revolution posed to Democrats. I feel quite sure that the reason it posed such a great problem was that the corporatocracy pushed it so vigorously. Anyone who questioned its validity was considered out of the "mainstream". Even today that good-for-nothing hack is worshipped by large numbers of Americans. It's all because of the legitimacy bestowed on him by the corporatocracy.

Our Democratic leaders are intimidated by the power of the corporatocracy from saying what they really believe. I believe that that is the major reason why most of the "firebrands" are on the right. They can say almost anything they please, knowing that they will be covered. They virtually have to make a complete ass out of themselves (like Sarah Palin) before they get any substantial negative press. Pat Buchanan can even defend slavery without being called to account.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 02:20 AM
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20. Carrying all of those heavy sacks of money turn their bones to jelly.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:59 AM
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21. Great writing, but why do such posts always leave out the voting machines?
Since 02, there has been a tilt of around 4% created I believe by fraudulently programmed or serviced voting machines.

There's no way to prove it of course, since we don't have a democracy. If we had a democracy, we'd have hand-counted ballots or the elections would be verifiable and auditable and audits would happen in every election.

Max Cleland, e.g., I believe did not lose his election in GA in 02. The evidence to my mind is stronger that he won the election and that Diebold rigged the election against him and for Chambliss. Same with Perdue's supposed victory over Roy Barnes. There were a bunch of other elections that seemed fishy then and since then a lot more election results have been fishy. Almost all elections handled by the machines show a rightward tilt that seems to me likely manufactured.

How can you complain about the people who get elected when everything is tilted to the right by the election system?

If the real voting results were determining the outcome, we'd have Dems w/ plenty of spine IMO. Politicians have to keep an eye to re-election and that's alway perilous when the results are being skewed as they are at present.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:03 AM
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22. Good point about the voting machines
And it's not just the machines, but the illegal purging of voters that contaminates our elections, which I did mention in this OP and probably accounts for more lost votes than the voting machines. As you know, voter registration is controlled electronically in many states, and that's probably how Kerry lost Ohio in 2004 -- a state whose voter registration was controlled by Diebold. Hundreds of thousands of voters were illegally purged in that election.

As you know, I've discussed the voting machine problem in dozens of previous posts, including Cleland's loss, which I'm almost certain was due to the voting machines. But if the voting machines skew our elections by 4% (In 2002, the national exit poll discrepancy in the presidential race seems to have been about 2%), I believe that corporate bribes to our elected officials and corporate control of the media account for a lot more. Once that problem is solved and we elect a lot of better people, I believe that our election system will begin to get fixed.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 09:16 AM
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24. We could prove it, with forensic audits of the election computer systems.
We just don't have the political will to do it.
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rtassi Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 10:18 AM
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25. TFC ... Great post as usual ... but, I wonder why you refer to our
form of government as a democracy, when as you know so well, after the events of 63 for certain, and arguably even earlier, that a democratic form of government as defined by the Constitution ceased to exist? Wouldn't it be more truthful, although less popular, to acknowledge the faces of fascism as they exist today in America, while then at the same time renouncing our oppressors? I ask this because, IMHO if we keep referring to our system of government inaccurately, it perpetuates a false belief that it can be overhauled systemically, and therefore then wastes precious time and energy attempting to fix a system, that no longer exists; the decks stacked against us to such an extent, that only the "unspeakable" as an option remains ... As far as our heartless and spineless leaders, with exceptions for an enlightened few, they are simply our reflection in the mirror ... they are us; we raised them and sent them there ... and that's why it pisses us off so much ... The fix is not so much systemic, as it is personal ...

We just stopped sailing yesterday... I will get on the "reading list" exchange we discussed.

rt
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:59 PM
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34. Thank you rt -- Much food for thought
You bring up a very important point here -- one which I have written about extensively and as a result had several of my OPs sent to the dungeon over a short period of time ;) . That point is that, in addition to the problem of corporate bribery of our elected representatives and corporate control of the media, there exists the possibility that if our elected leaders stray too far from "accepted" behavior they risk a fate much worse than the mere loss of their jobs and career. JFK, RFK, and MLK are perhaps the best known examples of that.

Does that mean that we should not refer to our government as a democracy? That's a very good question, but I don't have a good answer to that. Our government is structured as a democracy, but that structure appears to be overwhelmed with powerful and destructive forces. I am in the habit of referring to our government as a democracy because it is structured that way. Habits are hard to break. And the other problem is that I have only a vague understanding of those powerful and destructive forces, so they are very difficult for me to talk about with confidence that I'm characterizing them accurately.

So the question is how to best carry on a productive and informative conversation about these issues. I/we can't discuss ALL of the issues that overshadow our country in every post. How best to do it? I'll have to give it more thought.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 10:24 AM
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26. This quote from David Ray Griffin:
"Whenever you have to choose between being thought guilty of a crime, or merely being thought guilty of incompetence, people will choose incompetence every time. Particularly if it's a huge crime." ~ David Ray Griffin

Now, switch it up a bit, and instead of applying a so called "incompetence" to the Right, apply "spineless" to the Dems (not the Left, but the Dems) and you reach the same conclusion: a phony 'oppositional' (to corporate rule) party would much rather the public think them cowardly than being in on it; a strategic component in the broader deception.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 01:09 PM
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35. I think it's a combination of both
Congressional Republicans by and large just don't give a damn about the American people, and they have almost all been bought off. Democrats are more of a mixed bag. Some of them have been bought off. Others mean well, but are faced with enormous pressures to tow the corporate line in order maintain their jobs -- or in some cases perhaps even their lives.

Take my discussion of Durbin's speech in this OP, for example. It seems to me that Senator Durbin was and is deeply concerned about our government's torture of its detainees. I think that the speech he gave was courageous. Yet he caved in and apologized for that speech. I don't believe that he thought an apology was the right thing to do. I think that the pressure was just too much for him. But I won't criticize him for that because I have never had to face that kind of pressure, nor have I ever blown the whistle on anything that big.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 11:55 AM
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27. I agree with everything but the Russert thing.
Journalists are indeed supposed to investigate. But since when is it a journalists job to "hog-tie" their interviewees and "leave them blowin' in the wind?" Sounds like a hateful, bitter, and terrible job that I would never want to be in. Yeah, I'm sure people will be lining up for those interviews.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:08 PM
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28. It was a figure of speech
When a journalist interviews a powerful government official who repeats lies it is the job of a good journalist to challenge those lies. I don't mind leaving out the "hog-tie" and "leave them blowin' in the wind" metaphor. But lies should be challenged.

It is now well known that Russert was perhaps the most influential "go-to" journalist for Republican/corporatist politicians to get interviewed by when they needed to get out of a big jam. They could be assured that he would help them in any way that he could -- and indeed he did.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:21 PM
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29. Our "leaders" are carrying out the mandate of those who bought and paid for them. n.t
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:25 PM
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31. Succinctly put
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:24 PM
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30. #1-Politicians are egomaniacs and control freaks. It's not about doing their jobs or helping people.
#2-The media only cares about their own interests, the interests of their fellow elites and about what SELLS.

They make their money off of war, drama, tragedy and misery.

And it pays-very well.

#3-People need to wake up to the truth and perhaps they are now thanks to Michael Moore, Kucinich, Grayson and others like Bill Maher etc.



Given what I've seen on DU since the primaries, I'm not holding my breath that things will change any time soon, but I am encouraged by threads like this one.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:32 PM
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32. We have to (and to a certain extent, are) creating new means of delivering critical
information to voters. We can't depend on the corporate media to tell the truth about themselves and what's going on in general.
It's very unfortunate that political careers appeal to the ego driven types. We are the only counter to that phenomenon. When we start voting them out of office in large numbers, they start paying attention to what we want.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:30 PM
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48. It's a very good sign that the Internet is rapidly catching up with TV as a primary source of news
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:45 PM
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33. Well once again a comprehensive look at the truth.
And with conclusions that are spot on.....it deserves a rec and kick or two.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 02:35 PM
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38. The system encourages those who have no conscience or interest other
than their own ego. Look at DeLay, DeMint, Lott, Bauckus. They seem to feel their loyalty lies with those who pay them the most, obviously not the taxpayers - their "public office" is just the entre to the big money from the lobbyists - a license to steal. They work for the corporations and big money interests, not really for us at all.
I can't estimate the percentage of politicians that this holds trur for, but IMO it is certainly the majority and at all levels of elected office to one degree or another.

Wipe out the ehtire lobby system and limit campaign contributions to individuals only, not corporations or artificial entities and after some time there will be a real improvement.


mark
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:45 PM
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49. Yes, it most certainly does
Our corporatocracy and their media richly reward those who lack consciences while punishing our most loyal public servants.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:29 PM
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43. Outstanding Post ....Proud to K&R
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:08 PM
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47. the repubs defend the rich and the democrats...
...throw us bones to make it LOOK like they're on our side (iow, they defend the rich).

they are not heartless and spineless. they have plenty of heart and spine for doing their job, as described above.

it is really that simple.
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