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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 07:58 AM
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So which states will most likely opt-out of the Public Option? I"ll choose first: Florida---
my home state which is run by the biggest bunch of Neanderthal Republicans in the Country---besides Texas maybe...

Check out the "R's" in the link below.
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Representatives/representatives.aspx
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:00 AM
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1. Mississippi and Alabama nt
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:05 AM
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2. States that wil need healthcare the most.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:03 AM
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18. Louisiana. Georgia. Tennessee. Wyoming. Utah. Iowa. New Mexico.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 09:24 PM
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24. All winners of the Darwin awards? Removing themselves from the gene pool.
Edited on Sun Oct-11-09 09:29 PM by SharonAnn
A higher death rate in Red states.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:05 AM
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3. The deep south and possibly part of the Moron Corridor
that stretches from Texas to the Dakotas. Maybe Indiana, Utah, Wyoming, and Idaho. Maybe even Arizona, although there are enough people there to raise hell if they try.

I know if the NM lege tries it, people will be there with brickbats and pitchforks.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:06 AM
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4. Any Democrats in Florida are over 65 and covered!
The only dog they have in this fight are the cuts they keep hearing about from Betsy McCaughey.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:27 AM
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11. No one over 65 has children or grandchildren?
:shrug:

I'm not even sixty and I have both, and I care more for them than I do myself.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 06:20 PM
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22. That's because you are a Democrat and a nice person.
You would be surprised how many greedy and terrified old people there are out there. I used to be married to one (shudder).
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:10 AM
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5. Texas, South Carolina and Utah
with honorable mentions to Ms,Al,La,Ga,Ar,Tn,Ky,Wy,Id,Ks,Ne and Ak. The last to opt back in will be Texas.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:12 AM
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6. South Carolina. nt
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:16 AM
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7. I'm in Florida too but by the time anything happens I'll be on medicare anyway.
Edited on Sat Oct-10-09 08:16 AM by lamp_shade
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:18 AM
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8. Sad to say, but my state of Mississippi would likely be one of the first to opt-out from the P.O.
The state is poorly informed, and it is run by legislators who are tremendously corrupt, short-sighted, and greedy.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:18 AM
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9. Oh, and don't forget our "famous world orbiting" senator Bill Nelson.
The last elected Democrat in Florida, Lawton Chiles, gave us health insurance co-ops. Thousands of small businesses were able to buy health insurance for their employees.

Then, in 1998, here comes the vastly popular Jebbles and his insurance commissioner, Bill Nelson. In two years, they totally dismantled the co-ops, and we saw our premiums increase on average 25% per year overall, less age bracket.

In 2000, Bill Nelson takes his payday, resigns and runs for the senate.

Now after presiding over the total failure under his watch of the co-ops, Senator Bill Nelson backs co-ops over the public option. He sticks his nose in the air and says that I do not understand the issues.

I understand that he has taken a 1.5 million dollar payday in the 2010 election cycle from the insurance industry. I understand that he is a lying fraud. I understand he's bought and paid for. I understand that he has Socialized, not single payer, Socialized medical care.

What else is there to understand, Bill?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:23 AM
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10. SNAP!
Good post.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:37 AM
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14. I despise Bill Nelson more than any other politician in America. He needs to go. nt
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:07 AM
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19. wow, we're on the same page.
I told him I would work against his reelection with in whatever way I could, he got real snappy with me in his reply to my questions about public option and single payer. I just emailed him again and told him that the junior representative from Florida (Alan Grayson) has more balls than he ever hoped to have along with a better understanding of who his constituents were. I wonder what I'll get back from him now.

I mean what I said about working against him, any ideas?
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 12:22 PM
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21. I have started. The mouth of the south tells everyone how he screwed
Edited on Sat Oct-10-09 12:23 PM by tsuki
us on health care for small businesses. I have retired, and I have more time to see others and inform.

Not so surprisingly, the only people who defend him are Republicons.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:28 AM
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12. Texas, Lousianna, and Mississippi.
Perry, Jindal, and Barber.

Isn't Crist a little more progressive than those guys?

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:34 AM
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13. Florida Will Opt In...Big Time...
Despite rushpublican control in Talahassee, the state has a large number of retirees and working poor. It's a state in transition and with serious budget problems. A federal medical program would help allievate a major crunch on their budget as well as be a very positive political move. One reason the rushpugnicans are against any health care reform is they know it will be popular and will hurt them politically...but that's on the national level not on the state one.

The only states that will opt out are those that can afford to do it...an Alaska or other state that gets more in federal dollars than they send. Meanwhile, you're sure to have states like California, New York, Illinois and Pennsylvania as part of the system that is sure to provide a large pool of participants and force insurance rates down. In a couple years, the different could be big enough to start luring away businesses and jobs from those states that don't participate and become an even bigger political liability.

States may posture that they won't participate, just like many said they wouldn't take stimulus funds, but when the rhetoric subsides, they will take the money, they will opt in.
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Ineeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:40 AM
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15. Florida is a good guess
Florida is my adopted state and, naive as I was years ago, I only saw the allure of palm trees, beaches and warm weather when I moved here. I never considered the politics, having come from the Boston area where being liberal was as natural as breathing. My husband and I bought our little house here when we were relatively young, using it for vacations for years and planning to retire early. As our move got closer, my husband would frequently ask me if I was sure it was the right thing for us because, "they have the stupid disease in Florida." Little did I know! I assured him that neither of us would catch this dread disease, which we didn't, but I never once considered that it wasn't us we had to worry about. Luckily, I have found a delightful circle of like-minded friends and am usually cordial to neighbors, who have learned to keep most of their right-wingedness to themselves. I have tremendous hope that more and more progressive and liberal boomers move here. Florida did, after all, go blue in 2008 (but not my county.) I still love the warm weather and beaches and don't have regrets about moving. BTW, within a month or so of becoming a permanent resident, six, yes six, neighbors, who didn't know me at all, asked me if I would like to join their Bible study groups. It's not a big neighborhood and it caused me to wonder what it was about me that made them think I needed 'saving.' By their standards, I guess I did (fat chance) but I wonder how they knew!! B-) I sure wish Grayson was my Rep. -Buchanan is mine. :puke:
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HelenWheels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:36 AM
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16. Texas
At 25% they have the highest rate of uninsured and by damn they want to keep it that way.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:58 AM
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17. The states that would benifit most from it.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 11:11 AM
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20. Oklahoma, Louisiana and South Carolina.
Edited on Sat Oct-10-09 11:12 AM by Patsy Stone
Can't pick just one. I don't think Florida will opt out, and Charlie Crist is still better than Jeb! ever was. Some days I think Bill Nelson is more of a Republican than Charlie is.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:00 PM
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23. Florida has a serious case of "stupid"......
Gov Charley Crist just raised License fees $2.2 BILLION dollars. License Plates, Barber/Hair Stylyists,Pest Control Sprayers, Electricians, Drywall, Plumbers, i.e.... a tax on all honest working people. A Tax on the back of all working people in the State. (Many of whom are unemployed)

Yesterday, Crist was on TV.. boasting that he "didn't raise taxes".MF Liar. He will be elected without opposition as our next Senator. (Bible Beaters and Evangelical Neo-Cons)

Then, workers in Flroida will wonder why everyitng is Sooo screwed up.. as 'lil Charlie Crist swoops into office.? Wasn't there a comedian that said.."You can't fix Stupid" ?
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