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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:59 PM
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Frank Rich: Goldman Can Spare You a Dime
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 09:01 PM by Me.
Goldman Can Spare You a Dime

“AT the dawn of the progressive era early in the last century, muckrakers attacked the first billionaire, John D. Rockefeller, for creating capitalism’s most ruthless monster. “The Octopus” was their nickname for Standard Oil, the trust that controlled nearly 90 percent of American oil. But even in that primordial phase of the industrial era, Rockefeller was mindful of his public image and eager to counter it. “His great brainstorm,” writes his biographer, Ron Chernow, “was undoubtedly his decision to dispense shiny souvenir dimes to adults and nickels to children as he moved about.” Who could hate an octopus tossing glittering coins?

It was hard not to think of Rockefeller’s old P.R. playbook while watching Goldman Sachs’s behavior when the Dow hit 10,000 last week. As leader of the Wall Street pack, Goldman declared surging profits, keeping it on track to dispense a record $23 billion in bonuses for 2009. But most Americans know all too well that only the intervention of billions of dollars in taxpayer bailout money saved Goldman from the dire fate of its less well-connected competitors. The growing ranks of under-and-unemployed Americans, meanwhile, are waiting with increasing desperation for a recovery of their own.

Goldman is this century’s octopus — almost literally so. The most-quoted sentence in financial journalism this year, by Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone, describes the company as a “great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money.” That’s why Goldman’s chief executive, Lloyd Blankfein, recycled Rockefeller’s stunt last week: The announcement of Goldman’s spectacular third-quarter earnings ($3.19 billion) was paired with the news that the company was donating $200 million to its own foundation, which promotes education. In Goldman dollars, that largess is roughly comparable to the nickels John D. handed out to children a century ago. At least those kids could spend the spare change on candy.

Teddy Roosevelt’s trust-busting crusade ultimately broke up Standard Oil. Though Goldman did outlast three of its four major rival firms during last fall’s meltdown, it is not a monopoly. And there is one other significant way that our 21st-century vampire squid differs from Rockefeller’s 20th-century octopus. Americans knew what oil was, and they understood how Standard Oil’s manipulations directly affected their pocketbooks. Even now many Americans don’t know what Goldman’s products are or how it makes its money. The less we know, the easier it is for reckless gambling to return to capitalism’s casino, and for Washington to look the other way as a new financial bubble inflates.”…cont…

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/opinion/18rich.html?_r=1


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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:17 PM
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1. I agree with you on the fact that most Americans don't understand the
mechanisms behind the workings of the services that G.S. offers, and how people are guided into the array of "products" they offer in exchange for money....
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:58 PM
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4. "Product" Is The Very Point
They ain't creating nuthing. What's happening is a deconstruct...of everything
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:39 PM
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2. I give Obama full credit for his successes
but his handling of the bank mess is a flat-out fail. He says he gets it, but he sure doesn't act like it.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:47 PM
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3. It Worked Fine For Him
Until it causes him pain, it's a success.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 11:55 PM
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9. you give Obama credit for what ? Hiring as many Goldman crooks as he can?
here is just another one........they "own" this administration..count on that!

SEC Hires 29-Year-Old Ex-Goldman Sachs Exec For Key Role
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/16/adam-storch-se...

For those who've lamented the various links between Goldman Sachs and the financial regulatory system, this certainly isn't good news.

Bloomberg reports that the Securities Exchange Commission has named Adam Storch, a former Goldman exec, as its enforcement division's first chief operating officer. Storch is actually just 29 years old and previously worked in Goldman's business intelligence unit



Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/16/adam-storch-se...
JohnW


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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 10:11 PM
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5. Frank Rich's columns are MUST READ stuff every week.
Especially this week!
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 10:12 PM
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6. Kick for the Taibbi citation
:kick:
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 11:43 PM
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7. Loved That Quote
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 11:50 PM
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8. This is why I don't normally read Frank Rich
Sure, I ultimately agree with him on 95% of issues, but the guy is a moron. I don't think I've ever heard an original thought out of him. Watch his brain at work here:

1. “His great brainstorm,” writes his biographer, Ron Chernow, “was undoubtedly his decision to dispense shiny souvenir dimes to adults and nickels to children as he moved about.” Who could hate an octopus tossing glittering coins?"

Ok, interesting set-up. Then, what does he do?

2. "It was hard not to think of Rockefeller’s old P.R. playbook while watching Goldman Sachs’s behavior when the Dow hit 10,000 last week. As leader of the Wall Street pack, Goldman declared surging profits, keeping it on track to dispense a record $23 billion in bonuses for 2009."

HUH? I mean, HUH?

So Rockefeller's playbook was doling out cash to everybody. Goldman rips everybody off and pays itself 23 billion. What about that would possibly mean that it was "hard not to think of Rockefeller's old P.R. playbook?

Is Rich asserting that just as people used to like taking Rockefeller money and liked him for doling it out in communities, that we somehow all identify with Goldman Sachs bankers so that we feel like he is taking care of us when they all receive large bonuses?

I mean, WTF?

Is it too much to expect that the Times have columnists who understand basic logic?
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 12:00 AM
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10. Is it too much to expect that you would read the entire excerpt in the OP?
The analogy is between Rockefeller's dimes and Goldman's donation to its educational foundation.
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 12:08 AM
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11. Here is what Frank wrote:
"But even in that primordial phase of the industrial era, Rockefeller was mindful of his public image and eager to counter it. “His great brainstorm,” writes his biographer, Ron Chernow, “was undoubtedly his decision to dispense shiny souvenir dimes to adults and nickels to children as he moved about.” Who could hate an octopus tossing glittering coins?

It was hard not to think of Rockefeller’s old P.R. playbook while watching Goldman Sachs’s behavior when the Dow hit 10,000 last week. As leader of the Wall Street pack, Goldman declared surging profits, keeping it on track to dispense a record $23 billion in bonuses for 2009."


Are you saying that somehow what he wrote later negates what he wrote above? Or are you saying he is a poor writer who leaves readers with impressions that he did not intend?
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:35 AM
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