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ThePantaloon.com Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 12:43 AM
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What happens when churches outnumber schools, clinics, and banks put together?
Very bad things, that's what:

Churches denounce African children as "witches"
EKET, Nigeria – The nine-year-old boy lay on a bloodstained hospital sheet crawling with ants, staring blindly at the wall.

His family pastor had accused him of being a witch, and his father then tried to force acid down his throat as an exorcism. It spilled as he struggled, burning away his face and eyes. The emaciated boy barely had strength left to whisper the name of the church that had denounced him — Mount Zion Lighthouse.

A month later, he died.

Nwanaokwo Edet was one of an increasing number of children in Africa accused of witchcraft by pastors and then tortured or killed, often by family members. Pastors were involved in half of 200 cases of "witch children" reviewed by the AP, and 13 churches were named in the case files.

Some of the churches involved are renegade local branches of international franchises. Their parishioners take literally the Biblical exhortation, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."

"It is an outrage what they are allowing to take place in the name of Christianity," said Gary Foxcroft, head of nonprofit Stepping Stones Nigeria.

For their part, the families are often extremely poor, and sometimes even relieved to have one less mouth to feed. Poverty, conflict and poor education lay the foundation for accusations, which are then triggered by the death of a relative, the loss of a job or the denunciation of a pastor on the make, said Martin Dawes, a spokesman for the United Nations Children's Fund.

"When communities come under pressure, they look for scapegoats," he said. "It plays into traditional beliefs that someone is responsible for a negative change ... and children are defenseless."

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The idea of witchcraft is hardly new, but it has taken on new life recently partly because of a rapid growth in evangelical Christianity. Campaigners against the practice say around 15,000 children have been accused in two of Nigeria's 36 states over the past decade and around 1,000 have been murdered. In the past month alone, three Nigerian children accused of witchcraft were killed and another three were set on fire.

Nigeria is one of the heartlands of abuse, but hardly the only one: the United Nations Children's Fund says tens of thousands of children have been targeted throughout Africa.

Church signs sprout around every twist of the road snaking through the jungle between Uyo, the capital of the southern Akwa Ibom state where Nwanaokwo lay, and Eket, home to many more rejected "witch children." Churches outnumber schools, clinics and banks put together. Many promise to solve parishioner's material worries as well as spiritual ones — eight out of ten Nigerians struggle by on less than $2 a day.

full story: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/af_nigeria_child_witches
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:21 AM
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1. Religion
:puke:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:30 AM
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2. Is that some more of that Third Wave stuff that Sarah Palin's original church was into?
The church she grew up in, not the one she joined for public relations, but the one she was part of for a long time, had a close relationship with one of these witch-hunting pastors from Africa.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:09 AM
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5. Kinda
She was still at it when she was running for VP though. The guy in the Youtube video that was casting off the harmful influence of witches was Thomas Muthee. He's the guy that riled his people up until they ran an old woman out of town after killing her pets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Muthee#Mama_Jane

It also explains spiritual mapping, which has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:38 PM
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17. the witch-hunting pastors are the creation of us evangelical missions.
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ThePantaloon.com Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:47 PM
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18. Sarah Palin's witch doctor
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:48 AM
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3. My mother is 7th generation American, 1st class Evangelical
She believes that witches and demons inhabit peoples bodies and make them do bad things.

She cannot be spoken to rationally about her belief (demons possess you to say such things).

She is a very smart woman that has been brainwashed by ppl (she won't tell us who) that are taking a large % of her income.




If I think about it too long it makes me want to puke.


ORGANIZED religion was designed by sociopaths to steal money from insecure people and separate them from their Family members that will not buy into the BS.
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ThePantaloon.com Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:19 AM
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6. Cult Awareness Network
You can get help for your mom through this network - but it sounds like it would be very difficult.
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:00 AM
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4. Christianity is fine
when it focuses on treating others as you wish to be treated and defending/caring for the least among us.

It is problematic when it focuses on legalism, elitism, intolerance and creating division.

If the sacrifice/forgiveness of Christ is good enough for you, it's good enough for them, capiche?

The above scenario is completely and totally unacceptable.
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ThePantaloon.com Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:20 AM
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7. I thought it was fascinating though how it's
Evangelical churches - and how it's sort of an experiment in unchecked church as government...
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:59 AM
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8. You get Florida.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:34 AM
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9. Interesting you should say that. I live in north Fla, and have many
times wondered about the number of churches that are around - signs on side roads pointing to them, small buildings in the middle of nowhere with a billboard out front telling me I'm doomed, etc.

Where do they get enough peoople to support so many individual churches?
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:38 AM
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11. I used to live up there....it's a Christian Concentration Camp !
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ThePantaloon.com Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:24 PM
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14. pretty sad
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 11:19 AM
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13. I was going to say Georgia ...
OTOH, there are about as many bars as churches. Gotta do something with those other six days of the week.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:34 AM
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10. This seems to be a local phenomenon in several Nigerian states. The economy of Akwa Ibom
is oriented towards oil extraction and tourism: that is, development there has centered on the needs and tastes of foreigners; as a result much of the population has been impoverished in recent years, and over half the people have inadequate food. The disparities, between those who have profited from development and those who have not, are enormous.

FOOD SECURITY, URBANIZATION AND POVERTY IN AKWA IBOM STATE, NIGERIA
<pdf:> www.gecafs.org/documents/PS06Ekpenyong.pdf

Akwa Ibom airport hosts demand compansation
* By Kelvin Osa-Okunbor
* Published 10/09/2009
BARELY a month to the commissioning of the Akwa Ibom Airport, indigenes of Okopedi Community, hosts to the airport , have called on the Federal Government to prevail on the state government to pay adequate compensation for the large expanse of land used for the project. At a news conference, the leader of the delegation , Moses Esuh, explained that several attempts to get the state government to assuage the plight of the people whose farm lands have been taken have been rebuffed. He said : " We demand adequate compensation upon acquisition of whatever portion of land of the community that the government shall legally acquire as provided for in section 44 of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and the Land Use Act." The Okopedi community spokeman explained that the take -over of their farm land dates back to 2004, when the former governor, Obong Victor Atta, took over acres of farm land thereby denying them of their means of livelihood ... http://thenationonlineng.net/web2/articles/17725/1/Akwa-Ibom-airport-hosts-demand-compansation/Page1.html
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 03:00 PM
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19. foreign missionaries = corporate shock troops.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 04:22 PM
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20. Sloganeering can't substitute for careful fact-based analysis. If you want to make a case
that foreign missionaries are behind this, you are free to do so: but then you should be as concrete as possible, since otherwise you shed no real light on the situation
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:40 AM
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12. Oil industry has brought poverty and pollution to Niger Delta (Amnesty Intl)
30 June 2009

... Oil has generated an estimated US$600 billion since the 1960s. Despite this, many people in the oil-producing areas have to drink, cook with and wash in polluted water, and eat fish contaminated with oil and other toxins.

“More than 60 per cent of people in the region depend on the natural environment for their livelihood,” said Audrey Gaughran “Yet, pollution by the oil industry is destroying the vital resource on which they depend.”

Oil pollution kills fish, their food sources and fish larvae, and damages the ability of fish to reproduce, causing both immediate damage and long-term harm to fish stocks. Oil pollution also damages fishing equipment.

Oil spills and waste dumping have also seriously damaged agricultural land. Long-term effects include damage to soil fertility and agricultural productivity, which in some cases can last for decades. In numerous cases, these long-term effects have undermined a family’s only source of livelihood ...

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/oil-industry-has-brought-poverty-and-pollution-to-niger-delta-20090630
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:26 PM
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15. notice they tend to blame the weakest as witches
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ThePantaloon.com Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:33 PM
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16. it's a bizarre form of population control
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