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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:24 PM
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US impact in Fallujah, Iraq: 1 in 4 babies die in first week
This is what your tax money paid for in Iraq, and what it is paying for in Afghanistan. The rest is propaganda to justify billions for contractors (who in turn hire lobbyists) and to attempt the implementation of some arrogant, invariably wrong idea of geopolicy bound to fail.

The letter is a public domain document and may be quoted in full:

http://www.unobserver.com/layout5.php?id=6744&blz=1



Deformed babies in Fallujah/Iraq LETTER TO THE UNITED NATIONS

2009-10-14 | H.E. Dr. Ali Abdussalam Treki
President of the Sixty-fourth Session of the United Nations General Assembly
United Nations
New York, NY 10017

October 12th 2009

Your Excellency,

RE DEFORMED BABIES IN FALLUJAH

Young women in Fallujah in Iraq are terrified of having children because of the increasing number of babies born grotesquely deformed, with no heads, two heads, a single eye in their foreheads, scaly bodies or missing limbs. In addition, young children in Fallujah are now experiencing hideous cancers and leukaemias. These deformities are now well documented, for example in television documentaries on SKY UK on September 1 2009, and on SKY UK June 2008. Our direct contact with doctors in Fallujah report that:

In September 2009, Fallujah General Hospital had 170 new born babies, 24% of whom were dead within the first seven days, a staggering 75% of the dead babies were classified as deformed.

This can be compared with data from the month of August in 2002 where there were 530 new born babies of whom six were dead within the first seven days and only one birth defect was reported.

Doctors in Fallujah have specifically pointed out that not only are they witnessing unprecedented numbers of birth defects but premature births have also considerably increased after 2003. But what is more alarming is that doctors in Fallujah have said, “a significant number of babies that do survive begin to develop severe disabilities at a later stage”.

As one of a number of doctors, scientists and those with deep concern for Iraq, Dr Chris Burns-Cox, a British hospital physician, wrote a letter to the Rt. Hon. Clare Short, M.P. asking about this situation. She wrote a letter to the Rt. Hon.Douglas Alexander, M.P. the Secretary of State of the Department for International Development (a post she had held before she resigned on a matter of principle in May 2003 ) asking for clarification of the position of deformed children in Fallujah.

She received a reply dated 3rd September 2009 (two days after the Sky TV broadcast of 1st September 2009 ) from a junior minister, deputy to The Secretary of State, Mr. Gareth Thomas MP, Duty Minister, Department for International Development. In his reply he denies that there are more than two or three deformed babies in Fallujah in a year and asserts that there is, therefore, no problem. This is at wild variance with reports coming out of Fallujah. One grave digger of a single cemetery is burying four to five babies a day, most of which he says are deformed.

Clare Short passed us a copy of this letter. It bears a remarkable similarity to three other written answers we have received over a four year period, in regard to child health and the use of depleted uranium. All these letters are based on lies and an aim to confuse the recipients. In her autobiography “Honorable Deception?” Clare Short says “The first instinct of Number 10 (Downing Street) is to lie."

We regard the mendacity of Mr. Thomas’s letter, and of the other letters we have received, as extremely serious. These letters do not deal with minor matters of corruption, or taxes, but do deal with the use of armed forces and deadly weapons.

The use of certain weapons has tremendous repercussions. Iraq will become a country, if it has not already done so, where it is advisable not to have children. Other countries will watch what has happened in Iraq, and imitate the Coalition Allies’ total disregard of the United Nations Charter, The Geneva, and Hague Conventions, and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. Some countries, such as Afghanistan, will also come to experience the very long term damage to the environment, measured in billions of years, and the devastating effect of depleted uranium and white phosphorous munitions.

If, as we say in our letter to the Duty Minister of the Department for International Development, the UK Government clearly does not know the effects of the weapons it uses, nor, as a matter of policy, does “it do body counts”, how can the UK Government judge whether it is conducting the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan according to International Law, especially in terms of “proportionality” and long term damage to the natural environment? How can the UK know about the illegality of the weapons systems it sells on the international market, such as the “Storm Shadow” missile, if the very Department of the Government that is supposed to assess the deaths and medical needs of children and adults in Iraq is not telling the truth.

We request from the United Nations General Assembly the following:

1. To acknowledge that there is a serious problem regarding the unprecedented number of birth defects and cancer cases in Iraq specifically in Fallujah, Basra, Baghdad and Al - Najaf.

2. To set up an independent committee to conduct a full investigation into the problem of the increased number of birth defects and cancers in Iraq.

3. To implement the cleaning up of toxic materials used by the occupying forces including Depleted Uranium, and White Phosphorus.

4. To prevent children and adults entering contaminated areas to minimize exposure to these hazards.

5. To investigate whether war crimes, or crimes against humanity, have been committed, and thereby uphold the United Nations Charter, The Geneva and Hague Conventions, and The Rome Statute of The International Criminal Court.


Please find enclosed a copy of our letter to Mr Gareth Thomas, dated 12th October 2009, and his letter to The Rt Hon Clare Short, M.P. dated 3rd September 2009, and enclosures relating to this matter.

Yours faithfully,

Dr Nawal Majeed Al-Sammarai ( Iraq Minister of Women’s Affairs 2006 -2009)

Dr. David Halpin FRCS (Orthopaedic and Trauma Surgeon)

Malak Hamdan M. Eng in Chemical and Bioprocess Engineering.

Dr Chris Burns-Cox MD FRCP

Dr. Haithem Alshaibani (Environmental Sciences)

Yasmin Alibhai-Brown (Author and Journalist)
Nicholas Wood MA, RIBA, FRGS

Enclosures to follow by surface mail:

1: Copy of Sky Television Documentary 1 September 2009 “ The Deformed Babies of Fallujah”:

2: Copy of Sky Television Documentary June 2008 “ The Deformed Babies of Fallujah”.

3: Frieder Wagners’s film “ Deadly Desert Dust” 2006.

4: Report by doctors in Fallujah 4 March 2008 “ Prohibited Weapons Crisis”

5: Film the “Dying children of Iraq”,compiled by Nicholas Wood.

6: US Army briefing on the use of White Phosphorous in Fallujah on “Shake and Bake Missions”

7: Report “Who Can Forgive the Crime of using Depleted Uranium Against Iraq and Humanity” by Dr Haithem Alshaibani, September 2009 .

8: Written Answer by Mr Hilary Benn, Secretary of State, Department for International Development to Parliamentary Question. 10 March 2005.

9: Letter by Mr Hilary Benn, Secretary of State, Department for International Development to The Independent, 20 January 2007, in reply to the 98 Doctors’ letter to the Prime Minister.

10:Letter by Rt.Hon. Des Browne, M.P. UK Former Minister of Defence to Rt. Hon. Tony Benn, November 2008

11: Black Country Coroner’s District ( Sandwell, Dudley.and Walsall: ) Coroner’s Report into death of Stuart Raymond Dyson. 18 September 2009.

12: Calculations of expected child abnormalities in a city the size of Cardiff or Fallujah using UK statistics , David Halpin FRCS

Letter from Mr Gareth Thomas M.P. Duty Minister, Department for International Development, 3 September 2009 to Rt. Hon. Clare Short M.P.

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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:29 PM
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1. Agent Orange V 2.0 n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:40 PM
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4. Yep
One day people will realize the evil that was done in their names.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:44 PM
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5. +1
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:32 PM
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2. They'll follow us home
Thanks to the profligate use of DU (depleted uranium, not this wonderful message board), the veterans who spent any time in these areas will also be able to experience these horrors.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:32 PM
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13. Sad to say, they already are experiencing it--from Desert Storm, no less. This is terrible
stuff. It apparently enhances the armor-piercing qualities of rounds as well as enhancing the bank accounts of ammunition manufacturers.

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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:36 PM
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3. This is something I have complained about before
in various places. DU munitions are NOT harmless, and they do not stay in one place. They will kill your servicemen and women too, and their children, in the same ways as in Iraq.

The whole thing is insane, and it is a war crime.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:45 PM
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6. if you think that two-headed babies are only in Fallujah
well think again. You'll be seeing it here too (if not already being seen) as our soldiers have all been exposed as well.

:kick: & recommend.

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:46 PM
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7. There were similar repercussions from the 1st Gulf War. High cancer rates, deformities
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 06:50 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:11 PM
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8. Kicking hard.
Sometimes I just want to sit down and cry.

:kick:
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:17 PM
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9. K&R - thanks, Jack. This needs to be repeated until it sinks in. n/t
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:45 PM
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10. vietnam all over again--those of us who have loved and lost, or still live with,
the nightmare of agent orange and ptsd--know what this generation of wounded and their families are going to experience, here and in iraq.

I don't think I have tears left anymore.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:22 AM
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19. But worse
There are fungi that will degrade agent orange. In those steamy, humid jungles, most of the agent orange will break down in 10 years. Not so with depleted uranium. There are few mechanisms to sequester heavy metals out of the biosphere, and they operate VERY slowly. Iraq will have excess levels of uranium in the topsoil for centuries.
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:05 PM
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11. Related video/news story
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 08:10 PM by Regret My New Name
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:25 PM
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12. knr nt
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:37 PM
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14. Yeah, but, at least they're not under the evil dictatorship of Saddam Hussein, right?
Words cannot express...

Who are the people who invent and sell these weapons? Who are the people that purchase them? Why are they all not confined to mental hospitals for the criminally insane?

When will we stop normalizing abject cruelty and criminality in the name of empire?

sw
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 02:06 PM
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30. It's "Better Dead than Red" all over again.
But as these children know, there are worse things than simply dead. :(
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 01:15 AM
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15. These are born. Not preborn. Too bad. nt
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 06:58 AM
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16. Hence I'm thrilled Obama is undertaking biggest military withdrawal since Vietnam, from Iraq
http://www.democraticunderground.org/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8701234&mesg_id=8701234

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/09/world/middleeast/09pullout.html?_r=1

Leaving Iraq Is a Feat That Requires an Army

By MARC SANTORA
Published: October 8, 2009

JOINT BASE BALAD, Iraq — There is no more visible sign that America is putting the Iraq war behind it than the colossal operation to get its stuff out: 20,000 soldiers, nearly a sixth of the force here, assigned to a logistical effort aimed at dismantling some 300 bases and shipping out 1.5 million pieces of equipment, from tanks to coffee makers.

It is the largest movement of soldiers and matériel in more than four decades, the military said.

<end quote>

They are also closing up the military prisons, freeing hundreds of prisoners and generally getting out. George Bush, who is responsible for the Iraq War, goes down in history as a war criminal.

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:55 PM
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23. ..and sending them to AfPak, where DU munitions are still being used.
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 12:56 PM by bvar22
*
Iraq is soooo last administration.

We now have a New & Improved War.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 01:09 PM
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27.  Fallujah is in Iraq, not Afghanistan. Basic geography.
The OP is about Fallujah.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 01:25 PM
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28. No. The OP was about deformities caused by DU.
DU munitions that caused the deformities in the OP are STILL IN USE in AfPak.

Nice Try.
:thumbsdown:
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 01:25 PM
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29. Too much time on DU causes eyestrain, not deformities
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 01:26 PM by HamdenRice
Maybe hair pulling and palm slapping against forehead, but I don't think DU causes deformities.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 05:22 PM
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35. ...grudginly giving credit for a snse of humor.
:toast:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 07:04 AM
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17. Thank the crew that lied us into Iraq...
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 01:01 PM
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24. Thank these "Democrats" who had the integrity to vote against it.
The Democratic Party Honor Roll

These Democrats should be remembered for their principled stand against the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq.

Iraq War Resolution

United States Senate

In the Senate, the 21 Democrats, one Republican and one Independent courageously voted their consciences in 2002 against the War in Iraq :

Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii)
Jeff Bingaman (D-New Mexico)
Barbara Boxer (D-California)
Robert Byrd (D-West Virginia)
Kent Conrad (D-North Dakota)
Jon Corzine (D-New Jersey)
Mark Dayton (D-Minnesota)
Dick Durbin (D-Illinois)
Russ Feingold (D-Wisconsin)
Bob Graham (D-Florida)
Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii)
Jim Jeffords (I-Vermont)
Ted Kennedy (D-Massachusetts)
Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont)
Carl Levin (D-Michigan)
Barbara Mikulski (D-Maryland)
Patty Murray (D-Washington)
Jack Reed (D-Rhode Island)
Paul Sarbanes (D-Maryland)
Debbie Stabenow (D-Michigan)
The late Paul Wellstone (D-Minnesota)
Ron Wyden (D-Oregon)

Lincoln Chaffee (R-Rhode Island)


United States House of Representatives

Six House Republicans and one independent joined 126 Democratic members of the House of Represenatives:

Neil Abercrombie (D-Hawaii)
Tom Allen (D-Maine)
Joe Baca (D-California)
Brian Baird (D-Washington DC)
John Baldacci (D-Maine, now governor of Maine)
Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisconsin)
Xavier Becerra (D-California)
Earl Blumenauer (D-Oregon)
David Bonior (D-Michigan, retired from office)
Robert Brady (D-Pennsylvania)
Corinne Brown (D-Florida)
Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio)
Lois Capps (D-California)
Michael Capuano (D-Massachusetts)
Benjamin Cardin (D-Maryland)
Julia Carson (D-Indiana)
William Clay, Jr. (D-Missouri)
Eva Clayton (D-North Carolina, retired from office)
James Clyburn (D-South Carolina)
Gary Condit (D-California, retired from office)
John Conyers, Jr. (D-Michigan)
Jerry Costello (D-Illinois)
William Coyne (D-Pennsylvania, retired from office)
Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland)
Susan Davis (D-California)
Danny Davis (D-Illinois)
Peter DeFazio (D-Oregon)
Diana DeGette (D-Colorado)
Bill Delahunt (D-Massachusetts)
Rosa DeLauro (D-Connecticut)
John Dingell (D-Michigan)
Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas)
Mike Doyle (D-Pennsylvania)
Anna Eshoo (D-California)
Lane Evans (D-Illinois)
Sam Farr (D-California)
Chaka Fattah (D-Pennsylvania)
Bob Filner (D-California)
Barney Frank (D-Massachusetts)
Charles Gonzalez (D-Texas)
Luis Gutierrez (D-Illinois)
Alice Hastings (D-Florida)
Earl Hilliard (D-Alabama, retired from office)
Maurice Hinchey (D-New York)
Ruben Hinojosa (D-Texas)
Rush Holt (D-New Jersey)
Mike Honda (D-California)
Darlene Hooley (D-Oregon)
Inslee
Jackson (Il.)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Johnson, E.B.
Jones (OH)
Kaptur
Kildee
Kilpatrick
Kleczka
Kucinich
LaFalce
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Lofgren
Maloney (CT)
Matsui
McCarthy (MO)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McKinney
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Menendez
Millender-McDonald
Miller
Mollohan
Moran (Va)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Owens
Pallone
Pastor
Payne
Pelosi
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Rivers
Rodriguez
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sabo
Sanchez
Sanders
Sawyer
Schakowsky
Scott
Serrano
Slaughter
Snyder
Solis
Stark
Strickland
Stupak
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Towns
Udall (NM)
Udall (CO)
Velazquez
Visclosky
Waters
Watson
Watt
Woolsey
Wu


I salute the above "Democrats".
:patriot:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 04:27 PM
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33. Thanks for posting...
Three of them from my state.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:16 AM
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18. They dare not call it genocide
:cry:
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:51 AM
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20. K&R - THIS is what should be on the "news"
not some kid who's not really in a balloon while his dad tries to get a reality show.. argh!

Depleted Uranium - Death Made in America, Wondering if your conscience is stil anesthetized.

URANIUM MUNITIONS

Due to the use of massive amount of uranium munitions used by the US forces in the initial bombing and subsequently, massive amount of congenital deformities occur all over Afghanistan. The rate of various cancers has gone up significantly. Leukemia and esophageal cancers are very high among children. According to doctors at maternity and children hospitals in Kabul, the rate of various congenital deformities have increased by many folds since the US invasion. In fact, the magnitude of man made isotopes was established by the Uranium Medical Research Center after their investigators made to trips to Afghanistan and collected urine and soil samples. They established that the rate of man made isotopes was gone up 2000 times in some subjects located near the bombed areas.

Since uranium used in the weapons have a half-life of 4.5 billion years, the US forces ensured that generations of Afghans suffer from cancers and deformities. This is certainly not development. In fact, it is the biggest crime ever committed by anyone in the history of humanity.

more: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/depleteduraniumandafghanbabies29apr06.shtml

*WARNING - Graphic pics of what depleted uranium does to people, mostly children, at bottom of article in link*
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:30 PM
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21. kick nt
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:54 PM
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22. Another story that will be CENSORED from US distribution.
Double Plus UnGood.
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Freeatleast Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 01:05 PM
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25. Poor Fallujah
the suffering continues!
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 01:07 PM
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26. "Operation FREEDOM!"
Who actually buys into such grotesque bullshit?!
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 02:21 PM
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31. 90% of the population buy into it at the peak of each one of the stupid wars
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 03:54 PM
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32. K&R
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 04:36 PM
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34. Put your skepticism goggles on.
This sounds like propaganda to me.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 07:50 PM
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36. Can always be - make a case for us.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:46 PM
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37. Hmmm... let's think about this. Oil? Brown Babies? Contracts? Brown Babies...?
Sorry kids, the oil and contracts outweigh your lives.
Gotta keep the congress piggies well fed at the trough.

BHN
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