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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 09:30 PM
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Prosecutors are recomending a 6 year sentence for this?
Edited on Mon Oct-26-09 09:31 PM by Liberal_in_LA
what he did was wrong but 6 years for 1 count of theft? I get it's grand theft but he took advantage of a company's mistake.

Man took pay from NJ company he never worked for

Monday, October 26, 2009

(10-26) 18:24 PDT Somerville, N.J. (AP) --

An Illinois man has admitted banking more than $470,000 in paychecks from a New Jersey company he never worked for. Anthony Armatys, 35, of Palatine, Ill., pleaded guilty Monday in New Jersey Superior Court to one count of theft as part of a plea bargain.

Prosecutors say Armatys accepted a job with Basking Ridge, N.J.-based telecommunications company Avaya Inc. in September 2002, then changed his mind. But the company's computer system never removed his name from the payroll.

Paychecks were deposited into his bank account until February 2007, when Avaya auditors discovered the mistake.

Prosecutors are recommending a six-year prison term and restitution. Sentencing is scheduled for Jan. 8.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/10/26/national/a154226D19.DTL&tsp=1#ixzz0V6B2aV6u
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 09:32 PM
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1. He stole over 100k a year
sorry but that is theft.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 09:32 PM
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2. If they were biweekly paychecks, then it's more like 27 counts of theft
Did he learn nothing from Superman III and Office Space?
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 09:36 PM
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6. He's lucky if he doesn't get sent to Federal Pound You in the Ass Prison
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 09:33 PM
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3. He pled guilty I'm sure he was aware of the sentencing recommendation.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 09:35 PM
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5. Ok
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 09:34 PM
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4. It is GRAND THEFT.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 09:37 PM
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8. Too bad for him that it wasn't Grand Theft Auto
Then he could evade the cops just by getting his car painted.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 09:37 PM
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7. He deserves the sentence because he was STUPID.
If a company in NJ is depositing money in your account every two weeks, you move someplace where you can't get arrested for having that money transferred to an account they can't get to. Hello Cayman Islands.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 09:41 PM
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9. You tell me how it can be theft
The people in congress get all kinds of money from corporations every day and they and the corporations always say that nothing is expected for that pay. So this man got paid to do nothing. What is the difference between taking money to do nothing by this man and taking money to do nothing by congress??
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 09:45 PM
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10. He took something that wasn't his to take
...that makes him a criminal. I hate criminals. He knew it was wrong yet did it anyway. No different than a bank robber. I think six years was too light. TWenty years hard labor would be my choice. As long as crime pays, there will be criminals.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 09:54 PM
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11. Um... It's A Little Different Than A Bank Robber...


http://images.bimedia.net/images/NCB+1.jpg



Jesus Christ... people have absolutely no perspective anymore.

:wtf:
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:15 PM
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13. The intent was
to equate the money that congress gets from corporations and what this man did. It is assumed that corporations give money to politicians to work for the corporation. If the politician does not do that does the corporation come back and ask for their money?? The answer to that is no.

So one could assume that the politicians do do the work of the corporations.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:01 PM
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12. If someone sends you a check with your name on it, deposit the check.
Edited on Mon Oct-26-09 10:01 PM by The_Casual_Observer
Later on, if it was a mistake & they want their money back, you give it back, less the interest you have earned. At least this is how I understood the system, as taught by an accounting professor in MBA school.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 11:49 PM
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14. He should have spent some of it on a better lawyer.
Six years?! On a deal?!

Sorry, but a good lawyer should be able to hang that jury up.

A deal is what you expect from a guy who can't afford to put on a good defense.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 02:17 AM
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15. agreed. Rapists get lighter sentences than that.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 02:51 AM
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17. Yeah but rapist only hurt people, hurting business is far more serious in Amerika. n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 04:14 AM
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18. You're right. This only happens if the business pushes for a pound of flesh.
They must have really wanted this guy.

If he'd had a decent lawyer, he'd have cut a deal and made restitution to extent possible. He should have gone on the offensive, and sued the business in civil court, where he could have the ability to run discovery on them and find things that would likely help him, things that might compel the business to let him off easier. For example, how accurate can their records be if they allowed this to happen?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 02:45 AM
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16. He should "Opt Out"
Like the people on Wall Street.
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