Bush is responsible for Ft Hood Massacre...

[Postman]

It's his useless war in Iraq that created all this heartache..

He is ultimately responsible for these crimes and should have been arrested a long time ago.

[NYC_SKP]

1. Correct. nt.

[dmr]

2. I'd like to throw in Darth, Rummie, and the whole pnac crowd

name them all on the arrest warrant, please.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

3. BUT HEY, THEY GOT THAT OIL FOR EXXON-SHELL

AND THEIR REPUB BUDDIES WANT TO FORCE A WAR EXPANSION IN AFGHANISTAN THE GAS PIPELINE ETC

[Sebastian Doyle]

4. How about the DLC'ers in Congress who voted for the war?

We can't let them off the hook either.

[MisterP]

5. then again, supporting and continuing a war started by another is also culpable

the trigger appears to have been Hasan's imminent deployment this year--to wars being continued after Bush's departure

if someone's driving a tank through an orphanage, it's the current pilot who has the responsibility for whom he runs over, not the guy who turned on the engine

(sorry if I step on some toes, but I've been reading Vonnegut, and his morality comes with no waivers)

[proteus_lives]

6. Did he hand-off the pistols to the man?

No.

Let's not forget personal responsibility in our rush to condemn Bush and the war.

[earth mom]

7. Obama is continuing those wars. They are Obama's wars now. nt

[SemiCharmedQuark]

8. No. Hassan is responsible for the Ft. Hood Massacre.

He could have gone to jail rather than be deployed. It would have been unjust, but he could have done that rather than be deployed. Instead he chose to murder as many people as he could.

[Common Sense Party]

11. You don't expect people to take responsibility for their OWN actions, do you?

(The guy also could have killed himself and 12 families would be much happier tonight.)

[Dorian Gray]

16. Exactly

There were options. Not attractive options, but more attractive than murdering a bunch of other people. (In my mind, at least.)

[rollin74]

9. I totally despise George W. Bush but....

the guy pulling the trigger earlier today was responsible for this massacre. No justification or excuses.

[Ozymanithrax]

10. We have one President at a time.

They are Obama's wars. It is past time we recognized that the Forever war is a bipartisan fuckup.

[951-Riverside]

12. You're no better than Bush or the GOP

Shame on you for trying to spin a horrible tragedy to fit your own agenda. :mad:

Let me remind you that before Bush went into Iraq and Afghanistan we were attacked by a group of cowards and thousands died. Hypothetically speaking, if we were not in Iraq or Afghanistan today its very likely Hasan still would have committed these acts but blamed it on our policy on Israel, our bases in the middle east or even hunger in Africa.

The point is, cowards like this will always find a reason to justify murdering innocents.

[cherokeeprogressive]

13. I don't think you'll find W's fingerprint on the trigger of the gun the murderer used today.

Don't think you'll find it.

[Overseas]

14. I think the Bush admin did promote the Christianization of our military

and that soldiers of other faiths are subjected to bullying. That can't help the sanity of soldiers who go through the trauma of war on top of that.

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2009/05/0082488

[moondust]

15. Not directly.

Of course the shooter is responsible. Beyond that I think some responsibility lies with Hasan's immediate superior in the chain of command whose job it is to manage his personnel.

Per report some colonel said he had heard Hasan make comments like "maybe the Muslims should fight back against the Americans." Uh, colonel, you'd have to be pretty close to the guy to hear him say something like that. Were you his immediate superior, colonel? Why didn't you do anything?

[SoCalDem]

17. Not necessarily. People who join the military are in the business of war-fighting

It's kind of in the job-description. They train for it, they know it's a possibility..always. The ones who are in the service, but not on the front-lines, know too , that their jobs are in support of the ones who do the fighting.

This guy sounds like a typical "disgruntled worker" who just happened to be in the military:
He got his education , compliments of the US military
He had a cushy job at Walter Reed (near his hometown)
He got some bad evaluations
He got his ONLY promotion, very late in his career
Then they transferred him to TEXAS
and planned to send him to Iraq

He tried to renege on his "contract" and to "buy the military out" for the "free education"..they said NO..you're going to Iraq, via Texas

He was alone, unmarried, probably lonely, with no family nearby and decided to use "accompanied suicide" as his way of dealing with his messed up life..

[moondust]

18. ...in addition to

being a Muslim whose job it was to listen to soldiers returning from combat duty describing gruesome scenes from Hell--killing and maiming and seeing their buddies killed and maimed by........sand niggers Muslims.

Bad job assignment but how would the army personnel center know that?

[SoCalDem]

20. If they were thinking, they might have realized that he was a "bad investment"

or that he might be better off re-assigned to some other kind of treatment. Apparently he sent them all "signals", by wearing traditional muslim clothing, and many people seemed to know about his thoughts & feelings about the whole issue.

It may have all come down to a power struggle between him and his superiors..and no one "won".:(

[Rebubula]

19. NO

The asshole that pulled the trigger is responsible for the massacre. No one else.

Thousands of people have endured the same or worse and have never thought of killing innocent people.

Bush is guilty of a lot of things, but he is not responsible for the actions of one person.

[stray cat]

21. Mass murderers are never responsible for their own behavior?

unless they kill an abortion doctor...... It amazes me how selective DUers are about whether they support murderers based on whether they are sympathetic to the victims. Murderers are not to blame unless they kill someone I support - get real.

[Orwellian_Ghost]

22. That's false and perpetuates the illusion

that Bush, war criminal that he is, is in fact even responsible for the Iraq war. US foreign policy, on every single policy issue of import, has been a bi-partisan affair and aggressive US intervention in Mesopotamia precedes Bush and has been consistent through every US administration.

[cm0431]

23. If every act of terrorism is because Bush went to war

how do you explain 9/11?

Get a grip.

[Autumn]

24. His policies are continuing,

and that is what brings it down on this administration.

[Throd]

25. No he isn't.

[mamaleah]

26. That sounds a lot like FReakers blaming Clinton for 9/11. It sounds

moronic and unbalanced.

I slipped in my kitchen today on a cracked tile. Who do I blame? I want to assume Bush, but I dunno.....could be Ford....or Nixon. Hell, I bet it's JFK's fault!