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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 01:29 AM
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10 films the US Government would rather you not see.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 01:31 AM
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1. originally posted 3 years ago?
thanks for sharing. better late than never
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 03:16 PM
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28. I just found it at a site I trust yesterday....
and a lot of people have not seen these..including myself until now. :)
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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 01:35 AM
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2. The rest of the list, I agree but...
Loose Change and America: From Freedom to Fascism?

I don't believe they fit.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 03:06 AM
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10. i would think the govt. would want us to see loose change
because the more you watch it, the more you are convinced that the truthers are deluded morons.

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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 06:03 AM
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13. I know -- right?
I mean, what kind of idiot WOULDN'T believe the 19 hijackers story: especially after 5 of them were still alive after 9/11? (And two of them dead BEFORE 9/11!)

This is America, after all. Why would our government lie to us?
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 06:19 AM
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14. that's pretty dismissive of the real point made
loose change is ridiculous. it is so easily debunked, and so many have done it quite well.

i could make a loose change movie about any # of incidents i have investigated, that would sound just as convincing, by slectively leaving certain holes and using basic rhetorical tricks.

its just silly. it's entertaining, but certainly a poor attempt at theorizing
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 06:23 AM
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15. OK.
Admittedly, I never watched that particular movie. Consider me backing off a bit.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 06:24 AM
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16. oh,i STroNGLY recommend it
it's, at a minimum , pretty entertaining.

and after watching loose change, there are any # of good rebuttal videos to watch. it's (imo) actually a very good way of seeing how propaganda, misdirection, selective editing, etc. are used.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 06:40 AM
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17. Lord knows, I've got that
(and half a dozen others that I haven't brought myself to watch more than 5 minutes of.)
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:18 PM
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21. Exactly.
I think "Loose Change" is the movie that the Truth movement doesn't want you to see.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:33 PM
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26. And V for Vendetta?
That movie was OK but shit compared to the comic. Plus didn't like everyone watch that movie within a year of it's release?
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 01:38 AM
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3. I would like to add...
Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 01:49 AM
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4. The Power of Nightmares should be on that list
Especially in light of the President's repetition of the Al Qaeda myth last night, it would be a really good time to watch this movie, if you have never seen it.

http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:03 AM
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5. I NOTICED THAT TOO, SCARY
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:55 AM
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8. I just saw that about three weeks back.
Very very scary stuff, but it sure does inform us of what may be going on.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:25 AM
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6. Not sure it should be on that list, but The Century of Self is a must-watch
and is available on the internet.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:56 AM
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9. What's it about
(In 300 words or less)
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punkin87 Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 03:08 AM
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11. Edward Bernays and propaganda
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 03:11 PM
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27. Thanks. I have read a lil bit about Bernays and will check it olut. n/t
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:00 PM
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18. It is about how Freud's nephew began the whole advertising
to appeal to our subconscious and our self-absorbed needs thing.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:21 PM
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22. absolutely--Adam Curtis has the goods on the PTB
what a trilogy--for the ages--Power of Nightmares, and Century of the Self, The Trap

MUST WATCH!
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:24 PM
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24. i'll try and find those three...sound interesting...
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:47 AM
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7. I would nominate
It's a Wonderful Life. Such a good call for REGULATION of business because Mr. Potter was such an asshole.... Funny, when I was a kid that film was shown hundreds of time each holiday season, now that someone bought the rights it is shown once on non pay tv....hmmm?????
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 05:42 AM
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12.  Soylent Green n/t
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:06 PM
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19. K&R for later
n/t
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:11 PM
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20. "Excecutive Action" and "The Reflecting Pool"
Both are fictional films that ask "What if?"

Executive Action is about some rich far-right types plotting the JFK assassination.

The Reflecting Pool is about a Russian emigre reporter who investigates 9/11 at the request of a man whose daughter died that day.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:22 PM
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23. I've seen 7 of the 10.
Wonder what that says about me?

I choose, "Well informed" over "Conspiratorial Nutjob".
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:29 PM
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25. At work & can't access that video link - but, COVER UP: Iran Contra Affair needs to be included
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 03:17 PM
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29. thank you...
I agree...there are more films that need to be on this list.
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