Old Farts, unite!

[blindpig]

If, as seems to be the case, the proposal of Medicare for those of us 55/64 is the deal, what you gonna do?

Are you gonna be bought off or do you stand in solidarity with the rest who are getting screwed?

To hell with this blatant pandering, solidarity!

[barbtries]

1. i need more details

and though i am 54 years old, i want to see medicare for ALL.

[rurallib]

7. I agree - I am waiting for details

This could be the opening we have been waiting for to eventually (in the next couple years) expand medicare availability to all.
Plus, if there is access to the federal HC plan (subsidized for the poor) I think this could be a real win.
Ergo, give me details.

[derby378]

2. They're tempting us with a carrot before they beat us with a stick

That's the only way I can interpret this "deal."

[hedgehog]

3. This year , Medicare starts at 55

In 2011, we for 50 and cover everyone under 25.

In 2013, everyone under 30 and over 40.

By 2015, everyone.

[dysfunctional press]

5. you do realize that there is going to be a hefty monthly premium for those under 65, right?

some reports peg it as high as $865/month. and that would be for 80% coverage.

[hedgehog]

12. Everything is negotiable.

[dysfunctional press]

15. not everything.

and even if it were- it doesn't mean that the negotiations would yield positive results.

[dysfunctional press]

4. for most, it probably depends on the buy-in cost....

$865/month for 80% coverage seems a bit steep to me.

[blindpig]

8. Pretty ridiculous

Certainly more than I could afford, yet some will tout this as a great deal.

[Le Taz Hot]

6. I'm not sure who is unreccing

here but I countered it with my 1. Good, affordable health care is a UNIVERSAL need. It's an attempt to throw a bone to the Boomers thinking we're stupid enough to fall for it. We're not.

[blindpig]

9. For some..

partisanship trumps all, regardless of human suffering.

[MNDemNY]

10. I could support this IF...

It includes a "trigger" to lower the age of eligibility each year that the insurance industry does not meet REAL hard, benchmarks of cost, and coverage. THIS would be a real "foot in the door"

[madokie]

11. I'm old and I fart a lot

but most times I try to get away from them and let someone else smell them up.

Thats not what you're talking about??? damn I shoulda' known that

Lowering medicare to 55 would be a good deal I think. I'm VA so I have no experience with medicare so pay no attention to me but count me in as being on your side.

[swilton]

13. If we throw the youth under the bus

Will it be long before we'll be next?

Keep in mind that the youth will be taking care of us in our old age.

I say solidarity forever!

[tjwash]

14. "Keep in mind that the youth will be taking care of us in our old age"

I wouldn't count on that if I was you.

[Cal Carpenter]

27. Maybe if we show some solidarity with the youth now

We'd have better luck?

[blindpig]

16. solidarity

[Waiting For Everyman]

17. This OF says NO! Solidarity.

This "reform" is an atrocity. It's too little and too screwed up. And with mandates? Forget it!

And buying in to Medicare will probably lead to charging those who are already in it too. Instead of creeping single payer, it'll be creeping privatization.

Hell no!

[alfredo]

18. I have the Federal Employee Health Benefit plan. We need to

have that plan opened to everyone. It's pretty good. the OPM manages it well, not letting the insurance companies abuse us.

[TBF]

20. Sounds good - something that is already established.

I would be for opening medicare for everyone as well, but either would do. Enough bailouts for the pharmaceutical companies & health care corporations (which they clearly don't need as evidenced by their placement on the Fortune 500 list). Time for a bail-out for the rest of us.

[alfredo]

23. the FEHB is all about the clout we have because of a large pool.

That's why the coops were a bad idea. It was divide and conquer.

[Dhalgren]

19. K&R! Solidarity!

If it ain't for all it ain't for none! No dividing and conquering on this issue!

[maryf]

30. Sorry!!

How'd I miss this? and misquoted you to boot down below! great battle cry!!

[Dhalgren]

38. No problem - shout it out!

This thread ain't bad...ain't bad at all...

[Lugnut]

21. I'm already on Medicare.

I support Medicare for all age groups.

[maryf]

22. Solidarity forever!

K&R (but I don't stink! ;) )

[blindpig]

29. It's alright...

I'm sure I stink enough for the both of us...the consolation of dotage, ya just don't care.

[maryf]

31. Maybe my sense of smell is gone...

one of the first signs...besides, I make plenty of noise!

[maryf]

24. The costs are too high...

as a friend said recently "if it ain't for all, it ain't for any" or something like that...

[blindpig]

25. kickin'

just not too high...

[Greyhound]

26. K&R

[leftstreet]

28. This Old Fart says K&R

:thumbsup:

[ThomWV]

32. This OF says health care is not a problem confined to OFs, its a National Problem

What comes of this must apply to everyone, cradle to grave. They can be no excepted procedures or persons.

[maryf]

33. Kick just to make a stink and a big noise!!

People for people unite!

[Thickasabrick]

34. I'll be forced to keep what I got - $400 a month but it's better than $865

for single coverage.

[Digit]

35. I am between 55 and 60...

I believe we all need a plan like medicare which would provide (hopefully) affordable health care.
No mandated private insurance with the blood sucking pvt insurance carriers.
Also, we need to have regulation on the pharmaceutical companies so we are no longer subsidizing the cost for the countries that DO regulate them.

It is the republicans that are of the belief "I've got mine, you are on your own".

[B Calm]

36. 59 yrs old and I stand in solidarity!

[maryf]

37. morning kick