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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 09:57 PM
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Do you agree with the idea of spending TARP money - at this time - to pay down some of the debt?
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marybourg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 09:58 PM
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1. No. nt
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 09:58 PM
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2. Huh? Which debt?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:00 PM
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5. The national debt
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:02 PM
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11. how do you pay down debt with debt?
the only thing they can do with TARP funds to reduce the debt is NOT spend it...

sP
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:04 PM
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15. I just report this shit
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:24 PM
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21. :-) and you do a fine job of it!
thanks for the laugh. your line is very similar to one i have to use at work quite a lot.

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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 09:59 PM
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3. Hell no nt
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:00 PM
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4. Sure. As long as all the Wall Street banksters have gotten their bonuses.
And We the People have universal healthcare, good public education, jobs, housing, police and fire and all the rest of what used to be called progress in America.

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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:00 PM
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6. Not to pay down the debt.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:00 PM
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7. NO!
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:00 PM
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8. No
If the money was instead spend rebuilding our economy the increased taxes on increased employment and improved incomes would pay the debt down faster, and leave a permanent tax base to continue paying down the debt in the years to come.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:01 PM
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9. No. WPA first. Put Americans to work.
To ease the debt, cut the military.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:01 PM
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10. Who holds the debt?
Let's see, shovel money directly out of the Treasury to our good friends the Chinese and the Saudis, rather than spend it in country on luxuries like roads, schools, bridges and the like. Yeah, sounds like the kind of bright idea that could only come out of the minds of the Nitwit Wing of the Grand Old Party.
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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:22 PM
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20. Actually U.S. citizens including
me hold a lot of that debt (mine in my IRA). I hold a claim on benefits being held in trust in instruments of that debt (the Social Security Trust Fund) as well.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:02 PM
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12. Obama's idea of using TARP funds for infustructure and small business
would yeild a larger return
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:03 PM
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13. +100
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:04 PM
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14. Senator Feingold likes the idea
which is really puzzling:

Statement of U.S. Senator Russ Feingold on President Obama's Jobs Proposal

Tuesday, December 8, 2009

“I am particularly pleased that President Obama is including a tax credit for businesses to create jobs in his proposal, since it’s something I have urged both the President and Congress to do. While there’s no single way to address the challenges facing businesses, a jobs tax credit would help some firms hire workers they otherwise couldn’t. It would be an effective tool in putting more people back to work. I applaud the president for focusing on putting people back to work, which is a top priority for so many American families.

“I did not support the Wall Street bailout and strongly prefer that we use funds from that program to pay down the deficit. And while I would have preferred the president to have proposed other ways to pay for his jobs package, using bailout money is much better than not paying for that package at all.”




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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:05 PM
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16. I don't have a degree in economics... so I don't know nt
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:08 PM
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17. Perhaps I'm confused about money
but... seems to me that the TARP money IS part of the deficit. It was straight up deficit spending. So, using debt to pay down debt doesn't actually make a whole lot of sense to me. In any other circumstance, that's called robbing Peter to pay Paul and is generally frowned upon when you are talking about personal household finances.

In answer to your question though, no, I guess I don't support this.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:09 PM
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18. Heh ...... you're not one bit confused.
Yup ..... TARP = Big Part of National Debt
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:43 PM
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23. Is it a big part of the national debt?
I thought TARP, though it is all debt, was peanuts compared to what we owe in total.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:42 PM
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22. Kinda like paying your mastercard with your visa, isn't it? n/t
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 10:11 PM
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19. Isn't it free money? Let's spend it. n/t
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 11:03 PM
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24. It should all be used to pay down debt! n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 11:03 PM
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25. No. Jobs first. Then debt. nt
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