No Nukes! No Nukes! No Nukes!

[snooper2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9YYbrZ4whY


:P

[BeFree]

1. No videos here

But i am sure nukes are perfectly safe. Can't wait till everybody has their own personal nuke. That'll be the day..!!!

[snooper2]

2. hell yeah...

little mini nuke powered crotch rocket...

0-60 in 1.2 seconds :evilgrin:

[BeFree]

6. Yep

A nuke between your legs, and you'd age from 0-60 in about 1.2 seconds.

[liberalhistorian]

3. "Just give me the warm power of the sun, give me the steady

flow of the waterfall.
But take your atomic poison power
Take your atomic poison power
Take your atomic poison power away!"

I remember first singing this song nearly thirty years ago, as a teenager, then into adulthood, at anti-nuke rallies. I thought common sense regarding nuclear power had finally prevailed. Never thought that I'd be having to dust off such old chestnuts in my mid-forties and going through it all over again!

[farmout rightarm]

4. I did the same thing back then when it made some sense. It doesn't now

because it's the only way to supply the energy people will demand. A hundred watts per square meter of sunlight ain't gonna cut the mustard.

[Zoeisright]

5. FAIL.

If we put as much money (billions of dollars) into solar and wind power, we'd be self-sufficient right now. That argument, if you can call it that, that nuclear is the 'only way to supply energy' is a bunch of shit. It's a flat-out lie.

[farmout rightarm]

7. No, it isn't a lie. There is simply not enough energy in solar and wind to

support an active power grid. Sorry.

[Viking12]

8. There's plenty of energy in solar and wind

We just haven't yet developed the ability to harness and distribute it efficiently.

[farmout rightarm]

9. Okay, how much is "plenty". You seem pretty sure so how about some numbers

watts, joules, ergs...you pick the units.
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[Viking12]

12. A few figures

World electricity generation = ~18 Trillion KWh/year

Some of that is lost in transmission,

World electricity consumption = ~16 Trillion KWh/year

(source: http://www.eia.doe.gov/iea/elec.html)

Now, that’s the total electric energy consumed during the year, and you can turn that into the rate of energy consumption (measured in Watts, just like the world was one big light bulb) by dividing kilowatt hours by the number of hours in a year, and multiplying by 1000 to convert kilowatts into watts. The answer is two trillion Watts, in round numbers. On average, about 200 Watts falls on each square meter of Earth’s surface, but you might preferentially put your cells in sunnier, clearer places, so let’s call it 250 Watts per square meter. With a 15% efficiency, which is middling for present technology the area you need is 2 trillion Watts/(.15 X 250. Watts per square meter) or 53,333 square kilometers.

(source: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/10/an-open-letter-to-steve-levitt/)

[KittyWampus]

11. there is also garbage. A cheap source of energy that is collected locally. There're also newer

insulating technologies etc etc.

[slackmaster]

10. Bloom County...