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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 02:35 PM
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Remedial Biblical Studies Needed for RC Bishop Vasa of Baker Oregon - FDL
Remedial Biblical Studies Needed for RC Bishop Vasa of Baker OR
By: Peterr - FireDogLake
Saturday February 20, 2010 10:16 am

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The arch-conservative purity police of the Roman Catholic church in the US have been hard at work in Bend, OR:

The Diocese of Baker has ended the church’s official sponsorship of central Oregon’s largest medical center, citing the hospital’s refusal to adhere to some Catholic teachings.

Baker Bishop Robert F. Vasa said St. Charles Medical Center in Bend “gradually moved away” from church ethical and religious standards and can no longer be called Catholic.


According to the Catholic News Service, the problem was this: “The main point of contention is tubal ligation, a form of permanent female reproductive sterilization.” God forbid, says Bishop Vasa, that a woman be allowed, in consultation with her doctor, to have such a horrific operation. If getting pregnant is so dangerous to the life of the woman, better that she not have sex than have this operation.

Kudos to St. Charles Medical Center for not buying into that nonsense.

But it’s not just on the left coast that these battles are going on. On the other side of the US, the Archdiocese of DC has been squabbling with the DC city council over providing benefits to same-sex spouses/partners. Catholic Charities in DC decided to get out of the foster care business rather than treat its employees with equity. To their credit, Catholic Charities turned over the entire program — staff and all — to another provider, rather than simply going home and leaving someone else to clean up the mess.

Even so, in both Bend OR and DC the message from the arch-conservative end of the Roman Catholic church is clear: given a choice between serving those in need and enforcing doctrinal purity over those who do the serving, purity takes precedence. This isn’t surprising, in that they pledged to do this, along with other religious conservatives, and now they are following through on it.

The idea of a bishop like Vasa trotting out his canon law degree and saying “We’re too pure to let our name be associated with those people at that hospital” is a sad reflection on the Christian faith.
Indeed, I seem to recall Jesus saying a few things on the subject of people providing health care services (or not) in an exchange with another religious lawyer:

Just then a lawyer stood up to test Jesus. ‘Teacher,’ he said, ‘what must I do to inherit eternal life?’ He said to him, ‘What is written in the law? What do you read there?’ He answered, ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself.’ And he said to him, ‘You have given the right answer; do this, and you will live.’

But wanting to justify himself, he asked Jesus, ‘And who is my neighbor?’ Jesus replied, ‘A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell into the hands of robbers, who stripped him, beat him, and went away, leaving him half dead. Now by chance a priest was going down that road; and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. So likewise a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a Samaritan while travelling came near him; and when he saw him, he was moved with pity. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, having poured oil and wine on them. Then he put him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and took care of him. The next day he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said, “Take care of him; and when I come back, I will repay you whatever more you spend.” Which of these three, do you think, was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of the robbers?’ He said, ‘The one who showed him mercy.’ Jesus said to him, ‘Go and do likewise.’


That whole “but wanting to justify himself” is the line that reveals the problem of the lawyer. It’s about control, not service. Bishop Vasa, who came to Oregon after serving on the staff of the Bishop of Lincoln NE (one of the most conservative bishops in the US), said this at the end of his column on withdrawing the sponsorship of the church from St. Charles hospital, revealing that he’s got the same problem as the lawyer in the story Jesus told:

In practical terms there should be very little change in how St. Charles presently functions. One major shift will be the absence of the Blessed Sacrament at the hospital. The chapel will no longer be a Catholic chapel and Mass will no longer be celebrated there. In our secular culture most do not recognize the extreme grace of our Lord’s Real Presence but I suspect his absence from the chapel will be deeply felt.


Vasa seems to be operating under the theological illusion that he controls where Jesus is and isn’t present. He might want to re-read Matthew 25 once more, especially this part, where those who thought they were aware of such things received a rude surprise:

Then will say to those at his left hand, “You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.” Then they also will answer, “Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?” Then he will answer them, “Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.”


If I were a bishop (like that’s ever going to happen!), I’d be very careful about proudly walking away from a hospital or foster care program. You never know when you’re going to run into one of the least of these.

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Link: http://firedoglake.com/2010/02/20/remedial-biblical-studies-needed-for-rc-bishop-vasa-of-baker-or/

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 02:53 PM
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1. Tax the churches to pay for the hospitals.
Fuckers! If they interfere with society in any way, then they should be paying the same taxes everyone else is. Tax the cathedrals, the parish church properties and all other holdings. They can show zero income, but not zero property ownership.

Assholes!
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 04:02 PM
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7. Tax 'em all...Let the IRS sort 'em out... n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 04:14 PM
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10. Well, Jesus Saves, so tax the interest and dividends, too.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 04:37 PM
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11. LOL... You Bad !!!
:spank:

:rofl:

:evilgrin:

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 04:04 PM
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8. Brilliant!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 11:22 PM
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12. OP, awesome post. I love Bend, Oregon. Its wonderful and
beautiful. Too bad the nuns will have to leave. A nun in Providence up here offers comfort and presence when people pass away. She's very old and very wonderful and has done this for zillions of years. When my mother died, she followed us out and sat down with us in the waiting room. I remember this tiny little woman leaning over to me and whispering: "Have you seen anything yet?" I looked at her and sort of blinked, though I knew what she was saying. She asked me if I had any sign from my mother that she was with us. :) (that came later) :)

How many souls had she sent off, how many people had she comforted, how many strange and wonderful spiritual things had she seen and heard in a long life of service? She is the soul of service to God for me. And I know there are plenty of them in this hospital.

That priest can kiss my ass. My niece had a tubal ligation because she would die if she had another kid. Pre-eclampsia nearly killed her during her last one. He is a total and complete bastard. And the nuns who do the work he can't even remember he's suppose to do are the heroes. Too bad.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 03:29 PM
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2. Unmarried men pledged to celibacy imposing rules on married people
and others not pledged to celibacy. Why do Catholics put up with this?

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 03:32 PM
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3. In the area where they pulled their sponsorship in Oregon
are there any hospitals that they still have a presence or have Catholics pulled their chapels and visiting priests out of all hospitals in the area?
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 03:40 PM
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4. Get ready. Because there are some good jesuits
and some good works done, you will likely be discounted and flamed for reporting these things here.

:popcorn:
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 03:53 PM
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5. Vasa, who hid Church assets to protect pedophiles? Who refused a child safety audit?
Looks like the hospital decided just how much moral authority this childfucker-enabler should have....



Local diocese 1 of just 2 in U.S. to balk at audit on child safety
By Cindy Powers / The Bulletin
Published: March 14. 2009 4:00AM PST
Bishop Robert Vasa

An annual report released Friday by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops shows the Diocese of Baker was one of two dioceses in the country that declined to participate in a nationwide audit of child safety practices.

Bishop Robert Vasa, who heads the diocese, said he did not participate because he believes teaching young children about sexual predators instills fear in them.

“I refuse to implement programs in our schools or our CCD program that are directed at somehow trying to empower kids to keep themselves safe,” said Vasa, referring to the religious education program. “Because predators are bigger, smarter and much more determined than the children ever will be.”

More at link....

http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090314/NEWS0107/903140383/1001/NEWS01&nav_category=NEWS01


National Briefing | Northwest: Oregon: Ruling On Diocese Assets
Published: February 5, 2003
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A judge has barred the Roman Catholic bishop for Eastern Oregon from transferring diocese assets to individual churches while facing nearly $70 million in claims for sexual abuse by a priest. The ruling by Judge Michael Adler of Deschutes County Circuit Court came in a $60.8 million lawsuit against the Diocese of Baker by 18 men who say they were sexually abused by the Rev. David Hazen in the 1950's and 1960's. Bishop Robert Vasa said he had been working to transfer ownership of properties to the individual churches that used them for three years, and never intended to avoid any liabilities.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/05/us/national-briefing-northwest-oregon-ruling-on-diocese-assets.html?pagewanted=1

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 04:02 PM
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6. Great Info... Thanks !!!
:kick:

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 04:08 PM
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9. K & R # 100!!!
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