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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 06:23 PM
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Turkey recalls its ambassador after House panel passes genocide resolution
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/85061-foreign-affairs-panel-passes-genocide-bill


Turkey recalls its ambassador after House panel passes genocide resolution
By Kevin Bogardus - 03/04/10 03:50 PM ET

The House Foreign Affairs Committee approved the resolution in an extremely close 23-22 vote, which could send the measure to the House floor.

The resolution would recognize the killing of 1.5 million Armenians by the Ottoman Turks during World War I as genocide.

Turkey's government condemned the adoption of the resolution and warned it could set back U.S. relations with Turkey, a key U.S. ally in a dangerous part of the world. It said Ambassador Namik Tan was being withdrawn for consultations.

"Those who support this draft resolution have adopted a wrong and unfair attitude with political motives while ignoring the historical truths and differences of opinion among the expert historians on the subjetct," the government said in a statement.

Turkey warned the adoption of the resolution could "affect our cooperation on a wide common agenda with the United States," and said this attested to a "lack of strategic vision."

The resolution was also approved by the committee in 2007, and Turkey at that time also recalled its ambassador.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) decided against bringing the measure to the floor the last time it was approved in committee.

President Barack Obama said during the 2008 presidential campaign that he would recognize the killiings as genocide, but has avoided the term since his election and did not use it during a trip to Turkey.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 06:40 PM
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1. Well, Turkey has long been in aggressive denial of their genocide.
So, while the Turkish ambassador is gone -- quick, recognize Kurdistan!
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gerenimox Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 06:45 PM
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2. Turkey should
close the American base in Incirlik, and get the colonial invaders out of the country.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 06:46 PM
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3. Oh well
Your great grand parents committed genocide. If the Germans have to live with the memory of what they did, we have to live with the memory of what our ancestors did with slavery and Native Americans, Turkey should recognize what their Ottoman ancestors did to the Armenians and apologize for it.
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gerenimox Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 06:53 PM
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5. instead of talking crap
Edited on Thu Mar-04-10 06:54 PM by gerenimox
recognize the Native American Genocide
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:54 PM
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14. Agreed
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 08:41 PM
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16. That is a rarity
Lol
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 06:49 PM
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4. hmmph--we've put off that lil bito shit hitting the fan for far too long
time to bite the bullet and let it fly--while the Turks can't afford to turn their backs on us permanently (I hope)
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:12 PM
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6. No worries...Nancy will wimp out again.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:26 PM
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7. What part of 'the resolution passed' don't you understand? nt
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:41 PM
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8. It passed Committee...it has not been voted on by the full House
Or did you not read the article you posted
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:46 PM
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9. You're blaming Pelosi for not doing something that's already been
done. You tell me.
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:49 PM
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10. It has not passed the full house, therefore it is pointless
From the article:

"The resolution was also approved by the committee in 2007, and Turkey at that time also recalled its ambassador.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) decided against bringing the measure to the floor the last time it was approved in committee"


It will happen again...would not want to offend anyone by stating the obvious now, would we?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:50 PM
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11. But now it's been brought to the floor, right? So she's changed her
position from 2007.
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:54 PM
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13. When, and if, the full House actually votes on it...
then I will applaud her, until then, I can only surmise it will never see the light of day outside of the committee.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:53 PM
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12. Turkey can't face their past
ass holes.
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bik0 Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 08:11 PM
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15. Muslim Turks tried to exterminate Armenian Christians which inspired Hitler's holocaust
Edited on Thu Mar-04-10 08:31 PM by bik0
There was a segment on 60 Minutes last Sunday... I didn't know much about it until then. This is a tough one...Muslim Turks killed 1-1.5 million Armenian Christian infidels during WWI through death marches and mass executions. The Turkish Muslims deny it happened but there is indisputable evidence. It's illegal to even say the word "genocide" in Turkey when talking about Armenians.

Obama made a promise before his election he would make this an issue of his administration but nothing came of it after taking office. Turkey is a democratic Muslim state of strategic importance to the U.S. military... we have bases there and a lot of our support infrastructure for the Iraq war is located there. Turkey has been inching closer to Sharia law in recent years and democracy and freedom are threatened.

If Obama signs a resolution recognizing the Armenian genocide it would push them further towards a hard core Islamic state and have serious national security implications.

The Muslim's extermination of Armenian Christians inspired Hitler - after all traces and evidence of the Armenian genocide were' wiped from Turkish history, Hitler justified his final solution... "No one remembers the Armenian genocide"

It's no wonder most Muslims deny the holocaust... if it worked for the Armenians then why not the Jews?

watch the video... very eye opening...

60 Minutes video... http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6253043n
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