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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:18 PM Original message |
John King is showing a graph comparing what Goldman Sachs contributed to |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. To the victor go the spoils |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Right, but it's been going on longer than that: |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. My guess: The fat cats knew that Dems were going to win this time |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. They've been doing it since 1990 -- and big time during the Bush admin - I added |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Hmmm. Okay, revised guess: They've been investing extra money to corrupt the only party that MIGHT |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. God, maybe. There's some heavy stuff coming down on them now, though -- |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
54. this time? can you even read a graph? |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. The graph wasn't there when FiveGoodMen posted the first response -- I added |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. i apologize then |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. ... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. ... |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. They knew b*sh had destroyed the R's chances. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Good point. Why buy someone with no power? |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. ??? |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. No -- I hadn't heard that. But they've been doing it for years, and it really |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. Their ship was sinking so they bought off the party coming into power |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Here's the graph -- they've historically favored Dems it seems. Look at the |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
6. You have to pay at least three times as much to buy a Democrat. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. You know, you probably have a point there -- interesting. nt |
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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. We can have our cake and eat it too! No problem....nt |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
8. I'd be real suspicious of puke suck ass john kings numbers |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. It came from Open Secrets, they're not John King's numbers -- here it is: |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 12:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
76. how about open secrets? |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
10. ahem... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Sigh. I hate that. But it appears they've favored the Dems for years: |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
11. So the Republicans get a free pass on a blanket "NO" filibuster... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. No -- not at all. My only point is that I was really surprised at this -- as I said, |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
12. Not surprising. Wall Street has over the last few years donated |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Here -- check out the Bush years: |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
15. No surprise. They hedged their bets on everything else. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Yeah, but look at the difference in the past several years -- it's more than |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. '04 is interesting. They knew Kerry was going to win, which he did, of course. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 02:37 AM Response to Reply #30 |
69. Why post the same image over and over? It's in the OP, we saw it the first time. -nt |
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alstephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Point well taken! |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
16. Let's Review The Two Major Parties In The US |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
33. Hi Manny -- |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 10:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
67. Yikes! How Did You Know It Was Me? |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Exactly. All three. :-) nt |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
19. Because it was OBVIOUS by October 2006 that ANY Dem nominee would win in 2008. Even FOX covered |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Robert Rubin Was A Republican? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Listen...we KNOW what they do. And a Pres Clinton WOULDN'T have investigated Goldman-Sachs |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. I don't think you were addressing this to me, but I don't believe that the |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. was it obvious in 1990 that the dem nominee would win in 2008? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. I get the whole money to NY Dems, Rubin, etc,but, GOPs service Wall St at the EXPENSE of the rest |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. i come here for LBN.. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #42 |
71. It's not allegiance to acknowledge most Dems seek stricter guidelines for finance industry while |
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dems_rightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Pay attention |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. I get that...and have always been uneasy about Rubin, though when Dems are able they impose SOME |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. Well I've certainly learned that today. And I gotta admit, it's a shocker (which |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. It began before 2006 -- here's the graph. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. King is representing this story in a way that diverts attention away from the REALITY of Wall St's |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Well conventional wisdom has always been 'follow the money' so that's a valid |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
21. Why do you think Tim Geithner was the Treasury Sec, ? |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. Geithner has always bothered me (but Obama didn't heed my advice to appoint |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. me too |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
29. i'd really like to say that i'm surprised.. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. So you know how I feel. We're not naive, we know that it's always all about |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
44. Jon Crozine and Robert Rubin were both Chairmen of Goldman Sachs. Corzine was CEO in 1994 as well. |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
45. It's the DLC/CAP third way: Give the bankers what they want in return for money and power. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
63. PhRMA gives much more to Republicans because of the 'tort reform' support. Bill Bradley, |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 12:49 AM Response to Reply #63 |
77. look at health corporations' massive donations to Obama: |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
49. Goldman doesnt need to donate much to influence GOPers, they already have them in their back pocket. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Yeah, somebody else made that point, and I think it may be a valid one. Although, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
52. This is not new information. n/t |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Boy, it sure is to me! That's why I was so surprised. I still am. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. opensecrets.org has all kinds of good information on donations |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. I used to refer to it during the primaries (so I could holler that others were |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
53. There's a simple reason for this. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. That makes a LOT of sense. I never think of the simple, logical reason, so thanks. nt |
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chollybocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
55. It proves that Republicans can be bought more cheaply than Democrats. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
60. Wall Street loves their neoliberal salesmen, yes. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. This response makes a lot of sense -- wonder how it would track if we |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
68. Wow, look at everyone scrambling to rationalize this. |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
70. Looks like Obama got a $million from them |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
73. LOL |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
74. Obama got more $$$ from Goldman Sachs than any other candidate: |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-22-10 12:47 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Obama got $$$19.4 million from health insurance corporations in campaign donations: |
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