People Walk By Hero Bleeding To Death

[TwixVoy]

Homeless man Hugo Alfredo Tale-Yax, 31, a Guatemalan immigrant, collapsed on a New York street after being stabbed by a knife-wielding attacker. Tale-Yax had reportedly protected a woman from an attack, and was stabbed several time in the chest. Dozens walked by the dying man on the sidewalk. One even stopped to snap a picture of the man on his camera phone.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-viral-man-left-to-die-story,0,2163182.htmlstory

[htuttle]

1. The whole world is turning into the cast of Seinfeld

But without the 'being moderately funny' part.

[elocs]

2. Sad, but do we judge a city of 8+ million by the actions of dozens?

What happened to the woman he protected and why didn't she do anything to help him? That is particularly sad.

Overall this incident would seem to epitomize the Republican YOYO attitude: You're On Your Own.

[johnroshan]

5. This is not the first time and something tells me its not going to be the last.

Kitty Genovese anyone? The bystander effect is alive and kicking in our cities. Denying it won't do any good for us. The only way in beating this is awareness of the phenomenon and a conscious effort by the public at large to overcome this psychological roadblock. Social psychology should be mandatory in classrooms around the world.

[Nikki Stone1]

7. Kitty Genovese:

Thirty-Eight Witnesses: The Kitty Genovese Case
http://www.amazon.com/Thirty-Eight-Witnesses-Genovese-Melville-Journalism/dp/1933633298/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272343920&sr=1-1


"Thirty-five years after its first printing, Thirty-Eight Witnesses remains a starkly terrifying morality play, shocking the reader with the now-infamous tale of Catherine ("Kitty") Genovese, murdered on her Queens, New York, doorstep in full view of acquaintances, neighbors, and friends--all of whom did nothing, even though the woman was stabbed repeatedly and stalked by her killer for more than an hour. "

[elocs]

10. 8+ million people anyone? I'm sure there are million of New Yorkers who would have helped.

They just were not among the ones who passed by. I'm not going to judge millions of people by the actions of a very, very small percentage of them.

[johnroshan]

12. Nobody is judging the city as a whole.

This is just a psychological problem with human beings extensively researched and reported. Nobody knows what they would do without actually being in that spot at that time. The environment affects our psyche in ways we haven't even begun to understand. Look for "Human behavior experiments" in Youtube. Its quite an interesting watch.

[Odin2005]

3. No Words. Just no words...

:cry:

[pitohui]

4. this is a one paragraph story

any evidence it's true? a story told in chicago about something that may have happened to a reportedly homeless guatemalan guy in new york? where's the woman he "protected"? where's the picture of the attack that was supposedly snapped?

you post one paragraph of an unbelievable story with a link to a page that has only that one paragraph, i'm sorry but i need more evidence than that

in the 1970s we used to have all those stories in the news papers of poodles in the microwave and they were always one paragraph...you know why? they were not true, they were bored reporters making crap up

i'm not saying this story ain't true i'm saying if it is there would be more than paragraph you could link so if you don't mind terribly...

incredible claims require more evidence than believable claims

[Bluebear]

6. "i'm sorry but i need more evidence than that"---Here, here's a whole long article for you, enjoy.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100427/ap_on_re_us/us_dying_and_ignored

..Tale-Yax was walking behind a man and a woman on 144th Street in the Jamaica section of Queens around 6 a.m. April 18 when the couple got into a fight that became physical, according to police, who pieced together what happened from surveillance footage and interviews with area residents.

Tale-Yax was stabbed several times when he intervened to help the woman, NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said. She and the other man fled in different directions, and Tale-Yax pursued the man before collapsing. Authorities are searching for the man and woman.

A 911 call of a woman screaming came in around 6 a.m., but when officers responded to the address that was given, no one was there, police said. Another call came in around 7 a.m., saying a man was lying on the street, but gave the wrong address. Finally, around 7:20 a.m., someone called 911 to report a man had possibly been stabbed at 144th Street and 88th Road.

Police and firefighters arrived a few minutes later to find Tale-Yax dead. Officials say they're not sure whether the man was still alive when passers-by opted not to help him.

[Chulanowa]

8. What makes it incredible?

People treat the homeless like lepers. In every city, in every town; I'm certain even in your town. Jesus, I live in what might be the most liberal part of Washington, and I see people fucking cross streets to avoid the one or two homeless who come through here.

Know what they're thinking, when they see a bleeding homeless man on the street? it's not "Oh shit man, we have to get you to a hospital" it's "Oh shit, he probably has Hep C." it's not "That man looks hurt" it's "that man's got an act to get my wallet."

Maybe you're different, I don't know. I'd like to think I am, but I don't know. Would you be the one person to stop and help this man? Or would you simply let your mind glaze him out of the picture as you hurry along on your busy day, because some other kind, wonderful person is going to stop and help him after you pass?

Just what you're saying here, that you refuse to believe that no one stopped to help this man, kind of brings that to the forefront. You believe that the sidewalk is full of people who would always help and care for those who need it, and any story that says otherwise has to be wrong. But each of those people is probably saying the same thing as they walked by; "Someone else will help him, but I can't!"

And I can't honestly know that I wouldn't do the same damn thing.

[Quantess]

9. I know, the event is completely believable. Terrible and tragic, but believable.

And that doesn't mean that the people who rushed by him or ignored him are all heartless jerks. Living in a big city means that you mind your own business to a certain degree. If I were on my way somewhere in NYC, and I saw a stranger lying on the sidewalk, doubled over, I doubt I would stop to check it out.

If I saw a stranger bleeding and staggering in NYC (or anywhere else), or if I saw him getting stabbed, then that's another matter. I would definitely stop and help someone who seemed like they were in the type of danger they weren't used to being in. But maybe, sometimes, it's hard to tell the difference.

[Dr Morbius]

11. No, credulity has nothing to do with proof.

Prehaps it takes more to convince you if the claim is incredible, I can accept that. But if the evidence is there in sufficient quantity and is sufficiently believable in and of itself, it should be enough regardless of one's initial beliefs. If the evidence is sketchy, it shouldn't convince even if one is predisposed to believe.

If you have a predisposition to believe Jesus manifests himself in all kinds of ways, you perhaps might make a purchase on ebay of a tortilla. In other words, any objective evaluation of a story should be objective, and not colored by predisposition.

Sorry, I mean no offense this lovely morning to you or anyone else. I just can't agree with the last line of your post.

[Bluebear]

13. +

It took me 10 seconds to google the news and find the article. In the time it took the poster to be rude with his post, they could have done the same. :)

[AnArmyVeteran]

14. I agree, I thought that poster was rude too, without even trying to verify before writing...

A person in the article said, "I just think that's horrible, whether you're homeless or not," she said. "He's a human being; he needs help." It's sad she even had to say 'homeless' in that sentence. People are human beings. To not help those who are in need or vulnerable is a crime against humanity. We all should be advocates for those who are unable to help themselves.