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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 10:23 PM
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So, I'm reading Juan Perón's wikipedia page and came across what his opposition thought of him...
I don't know much about the man other than the musical. So, please forgive me. However, I have met Argentines that lived there while he was in power and thought highly of him. FWIW, I saw that he was referred to as a right wing dictator and ended up looking at his wikipedia page and found the following...

Among upper-class Argentines, improvement of the workers' situation was a source of resentment; industrial workers from rural areas had formerly been treated as servants. It was common for better-off Argentines to refer to these workers using racist slurs like "little black heads" (cabecitas negras, the name of a bird), "greased" (grasas which came from people with grease on their hands or fingernails, i.e. blue-collar workers), "un-shirted" (descamisados, since they doffed their shirts to perform manual labor). Conservative Radical Civic Union Congressman Ernesto Sammartino mused that Perón's voters were a "zoological flood" (aluvión zoológico).<28> In the 1940s, upper-class students were the first to oppose Peronist workers, with the slogan: "No to cheap shoe dictatorship" (No a la dictadura de las alpargatas). A graffito revealing the strong opposition between Peronists and anti-Peronists appeared in upper-class districts in the 1950s, "Long live cancer!" (¡Viva el cáncer!), when Eva Perón was dying of cancer.<29> She died of cervical cancer in 1952 at the age of thirty-three.

link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Peron#Opposition_and_repression


I know that one should take whatever is on wikipedia with a grain of salt but does this rhetoric not sound so frighteningly familiar to what we hear from Glenn Beck/teabagger crowd?

BTW, what was the deal with Juan Perón? Was he a huge evil fuck like Augusto Pinochet? Or was he a diabolical madman like Huge Chavez? :eyes:

Who was this man?



You tell me.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 10:34 PM
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1. He was an admirer of Mussilini
He was an opportunist
His wife gave him in roads into the poorer communities and, to a point, he was sympathetic
He moved left and right depending on what benefited him politically
He was brought down bu opposition from the rich, but also because he had serious lapses of judgment/character*

*Being seen bicycling almost daily with groups of high school girls cycling behind you does not endear you to the public at large
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 10:42 PM
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2. Juan Peron was a Colonel n the Argntine Army in the 1940's, went to Germany to study
at one of their command schools and was a long time German/Nazi supporter. He was supported Argentina's entrance into WWII on the Nazi side, as did many in the Argentine Navy. A group of Army officers staged a coup and ousted the pro German president, and installed their own pro US president. Peron was a member of the group, and was unhappy but went along with the decision.

He also evidently had a very well known lifelong "affection" for very young teenage girls.

Argentina has a lot of very rich people owning huge tracts of land on which lived many employees - a near-feudal system, similar to what the rich right seems to envision for us...

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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 10:48 PM
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3. He and his wife did a great deal to screw up the country even more
than it was already screwed up. Argentinos today either regard the Perons as saints or as Satan's spawn.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 10:53 PM
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4. Get out!
I was just reading that page yesterday. I swear!

Freaky!

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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:00 PM
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5. Thank you for the info everyone!
Oy! I'll be staying away from this guy... btw, his opposition sounds as fucked up as he.
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:19 PM
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8. Well, there must be something to Peronismo
Edited on Mon Apr-26-10 11:24 PM by rabs
that the current president of Argentina, Cristina Fernandez de Kircher, is a member of the Justicialista Party (Peronist). Her husband, Néstor Kirchner, preceded her as president, also a Peronista.

Cristina is the second Peronista female president 0f Argentina after Isabel Martinez de Perón, (1974–1976) who was overthrown by a military coup, plunging Argentina into the Nixon/Kissinger supported "Dirty War" in which an estimated 30,000 Argentines were slaughtered.











http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cristina_y_Lula_2.jpg










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For reasons that are not understood outside of Argentina, Peronistas leaders continue to be elected.




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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:09 PM
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6. Peron was a oppertunistic demogogue who ruined his country's economy.
Sure, he used some Leftist language, but it was all a charade.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:10 PM
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7. "When he 'disappeared' you, you stayed 'disappeared," "Plus, his wife was Madonna."
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