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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:56 PM
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What does it say when FR is the place to go for debunking?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2501496/posts

FYI I just received this...I have received this from a third party so I cannot state that this is actually from Dr. Price.

Dear Friends,
Many of you have seen the preliminary news announcement of an alleged discovery of Noah’s Ark by a Chinese expedition team and asked me for clarification. I knew this was coming and have been praying about how to respond.

I was the archaeologist with the Chinese expedition in the summer of 2008 and was given photos of what they now are reporting to be the inside of the Ark. I and my partners invested $100,000 in this expedition (described below) which they have retained, despite their promise and our requests to return it, since it was not used for the expedition. The information given below is my opinion based on what I have seen and heard (from others who claim to have been eyewitnesses or know the exact details).

To make a long story short: this is all reported to be a fake. The photos were reputed to have been taken off site near the Black Sea, but the film footage the Chinese now have was shot on location on Mt. Ararat. In the late summer of 2008 ten Kurdish workers hired by Parasut, the guide used by the Chinese, are said to have planted large wood beams taken from an old structure in the Black Sea area (where the photos were originally taken) at the Mt. Ararat site. In the winter of 2008 a Chinese climber taken by Parasut’s men to the site saw the wood, but couldn’t get inside because of the severe weather conditions. During the summer of 2009 more wood was planted inside a cave at the site. The Chinese team went in the late summer of 2009 (I was there at the time and knew about the hoax) and was shown the cave with the wood and made their film. As I said, I have the photos of the inside of the so-called Ark (that show cobwebs in the corners of rafters - something just not p! ossible in these conditions) and our Kurdish partner in Dogubabyazit (the village at the foot of Mt. Ararat) has all of the facts about the location, the men who planted the wood, and even the truck that transported it.

To my knowledge, the Chinese took no professional archaeologist or geologist who could verify or document the wood or the structure in situ (in its place of discovery). They were duped in 2006-2007 by Parasut when they were shown a similar cave with something they thought was wood. I met the Chinese when I went with a team of geologists to examine the “wood” in Dogubabyazit and to report that it was volcanic rock (called “tuff”) and not wood. Thereafter, since the Chinese were apparently able to get permits to climb in previously off-limit sites, I and two other professionals joined with the Chinese (bringing our own independent satellite data) and went with them to Mt. Ararat in 2008. During that expedition, the guide Parasut who claimed to have found the Ark, was constantly drunk and after one month sitting in a hotel waiting, the expedition never happened. It was at this time that I made contact with Dr. Richard Bright who has climbed Mt. Ararat 33 times in sea! rch of the Ark and with several others climbed the western side of Mt. Ararat with a shepherd (who had recently been discovered by Dr. Bright’s Kurdish partner) who knew the location of a piece of the Ark. Last year we had a good expedition to a higher site (the satellite site) and this summer we will excavate the shepherd’s site and have every reason to expect success.

I am sorry to have to report that this is apparently a fake (and I am sure that the Chinese do not know this, but they do not respond to my e-mails), however, we do hope soon to have the real thing.

I encourage your prayers for me and others who will have to explain this “discovery” to many others - because negative reports are never well received and motives are questioned, especially when those doing so are part of a competitive expedition. But we do not want people to reject the truth of the Bible because another Noah’s Ark report turns out to be false. We prefer to as clear upfront in our reporting as possible so Christians (and others) can make up their own minds.

I hope that this will be helpful to you at this time,

Randall Price
Archaeologist
Ark Search LLC Expedition
World of the Bible Ministries


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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:01 PM
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1. Isn't Randall Price one of the "Rapture Ready" crowd?
Ugh... If there's a God, she surely must be pissed at humans.


"Clutching violently we whisper with a liquefying cry
Any deadly final answers that are surely doomed to die.
Won't you help me Mr. Jesus, won't you tell me if you can?
When you see this world we live in, do you still believe in Man?" - Black Sabbath
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:03 PM
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2. Did you really need to go to FR to debunk a story about Noah's Ark?
If I told you they found Jack's beanstalk, would you go to Old Elm Trees?
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:04 PM
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3. Always more interesting to see if anyone there has the guts to bring reality into the discussion...
Edited on Tue Apr-27-10 01:16 PM by brooklynite
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:10 PM
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4. Wow, this whole 'biblical archaeology' scam seems like a great con!
I should get busy bilking millions from the suckers.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:15 PM
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5. I'm going on an expedition to find the "big fish" that swallowed Jonah.
Who wants to finance me?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:56 PM
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6. +1
n/t
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