Get Rid of Morning Joe -- by Donald Sutherland

[kentuck]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/donald-sutherland/morning-joe_b_560129.html

Are the programmers at MSNBC nuts? They give us refreshing afternoons with Chris and Ed, put us to bed with the clarifying sensibilities of Rachel and Keith and then, idiotically, wake us up with Mr. Small Mouth.

Who is this idiot? Why is he there? He can't even listen. He doesn't conduct a decent conversation. He runs over everyone else's words with a landslide of diarrhea. I saw him on Friday, stomping around the stage like a posturing rooster, calling Paul Krugman a political hack. Paul Krugman's a political hack? Surely they put make-up on Mr. Small Mouth. Doesn't he look in the mirror? That's where he'd see what a political hack looks like.

For god's sake, MSNBC, get rid of him, he's beneath you. This guy makes Pat Buchanan look embarrassed. Go out and get the television equivalent of David Brooks to chair your program. He'd be worth listening to. He'd give conservative opinion a rational voice. That person would be calmly articulate, and that'd make for worthwhile conversation. Reminiscent of William Safire or, better still, William F. Buckley. That'd be fair and balanced broadcasting!

And he doesn't need to be named Joe. They put calling a cup of coffee a cup of "Joe" out to pasture decades ago. Joe's a plumber now.

[KittyWampus]

1. THAT was entertaining.

[ShamelessHussy]

140. Moaning Joe with Shrieka Brzezinski are such Obvious Corporate Tools you'd think they'd be more

harmful to their masters than helpful, who demonstrate daily who really OWNS our 'public' airwaves via the old golden rule maxim...

We Who Has the Gold, RULES

I guess this recent comment by Phil Griffin, MSNBC President explains it...

We Want To Be Like Fox News

MSNBC President Phil Griffin said in an interview with the Chicago Tribune's Phil Rosenthal that he hopes MSNBC can grow to be more like Fox News, but that he won't be putting any "hard-right shows" on his network.

Griffin praised Fox News chief Roger Ailes for the television phenomenon he's created.

"He's changed media," Griffin said of Ailes. "Everybody does news differently because Roger's changed the world. Roger early on figured it out and was brilliant."

To Griffin, developing a successful cable news network means creating a place for "like-minded" viewers to come for the network's hosts' takes on the news.

"We're talking about the actions and passions of today, which tend to be political," he said.

more...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/03/phil-griffin-msnbc-presid_n_560746.html

when i saw the web ads for their line up, it seemed pretty obvious how they feel about Keith and Rachel as all the other hosts had imagery of high office with their attendant American iconography (white house, congress building, president, etc), whereas Keith and Rachel had images associated with them or their shows that depicted fringe wackos on the right, as if they delt in BS like the kooks Rush, Malkin, etc. and they even had a hammer and sickle flag in one of Rachels images.



:shakes-head:

[Oceansaway]

2. dead intern Joe's show sucks...nt

[FreeJG]

56. Yeah....what about that dead intern????

[librechik]

59. google is your friend

http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html

[gtar100]

147. That story about Lori Klausutis is just incredible.

And to think that Scarborough is a regular on TV - as a news information source! Even if he had nothing to do with her death, the way it was handled is reprehensible and outright disgusting.

And America makes him into a celebrity.

[mmonk]

3. Joe's a plumber now.

:rofl:

[Iggo]

23. Dagger!

:spank:

[AlbertCat]

136. Actually, it's a "cup of Jo".... and Joe's never been a plumber, never was.... but I get it.

[mmonk]

159. Then maybe he is a plumber's friend.

[Ticonderoga]

169. Maybe he just

likes to get plumbed.

[hlthe2b]

4. How much do I love Donald Sutherland?

Let me count the ways! :loveya:

[CatWoman]

52. I've been in love with him ever since Eye of the Needle

and Kelly's Heroes :)

[hlthe2b]

64. Ahh, yes...

Kelly's Heroes was classic Sutherland. He was the ultimate "oddball"...LOL

[YOY]

73. Tell me all about those positive waves, baby...

[hlthe2b]

111. Ohh, I'm gonna capture that one or sure..

Great!

[CatWoman]

67. Drinking some wine, eating cheese

catching some rays :)

[Ganja Ninja]

70. Oddball was my favorite character of all the WWII movies I've ever seen.

[hlthe2b]

110. I couldn't wait for Kelly's Heros to come out on DVD...

Classic, classic Sutherland.

[FailureToCommunicate]

101. An. All. Time. Great. Line!

[northernlights]

71. oh, man, you and me both....

Dis is der nawdel...dis is der nawdel...:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[CTyankee]

81. And that was one helluva novel, too. Stayed up almost all night to finish it.

The next day was a real drag but I simply couldn't put it down. The author never wrote another one to equal it...and I read most all of them...

[BrklynLiberal]

82. I go all the way back to "The Dirty Dozen" in 1967 with him....

and his character in "The Day of the Locust" was named Homer Simpson...

He was great as the professor in "Animal House"...
I better not start listing the movies I loved him in...too long a post.

Kudos to Mr. Sutherland!!!!

[TheDebbieDee]

102. Eye of the Needle was a great movie.......very under-rated!

[orleans]

109. me since "don't look now"

i love that movie!

[charlyvi]

128. How 'bout that sex scene with Julie Christie in Don't Look Now.

I had Donald Sutherland dreams for years after that. Whew!

[scarletwoman]

126. I can't believe no one has mentioned Donald Sutherland playing Jesus Christ in "Johnny Got His Gun"!

That's how long *I've* been in love with him.

sw

[charlyvi]

129. Damn. That was one depressing movie.

A good one, but depressing as hell. It started my Timothy Bottoms crush though.

[Echo In Light]

5. "I'm not joking ... this is my job."

K/R :thumbsup:

[madmax]

6. I usually watch this a.m. train wreck

or tivo just to get my blood boiling for the day and perhaps I suffer from a touch of masochism. ;)

I missed it today :bounce: tuned in and went back to sleep.

[Lance_Boyle]

7. MSNBC goes with what sells in the mornings.

Think "morning zoo" type radio broadcasts. Same reason they had Imus before... shtick sells with the breakfast crowd. Be thankful the network allows its programming to mature later in the day!

That said, I would kill to see Sutherland as a guest on the Squint and Meat Puppet show. Donald. Not that horrible "24" guy.

[blogslut]

18. Mr. Sutherland's son is fine

Keifer is simply playing a part in a fictional drama. Actors often portray characters that bear no resemblance to their real-life political views. Look at conservative Kelsey Grammer and his liberal character Frasier Crane.

What you may not know is that Keifer's grandfather was Canadian politician Tommy Douglas - the man responsible for giving his country Universal Health Care:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas

The younger Mr. Sutherland has even made PSAs, touting the need for health care reform:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yckvBVyhn8s&feature=related

[Lance_Boyle]

26. I don't dislike him for any role.

I just don't like him. I'm allowed to find actors horrible regardless of their politics. ;-)

[blogslut]

31. I apologize

I thought your opinion was based on the politics of his television show.

I enjoy him as an actor, especially when he portrays villains. He can be deliciously malevolent. ;)

[Cha]

49. I like him too..just something about him..

I haven't watched 24 for long time now, though..it got too predictable for me.

[Bette Noir]

87. I can't stomach Alan Alda, even though I know he's one of us.

[AlbertCat]

137. I can't stomach Alan Alda

I'm so glad you said that. I can't either! But apparently one is a philistine for saying so.

Kiefer I like, though I hate "24" because it's lame and predictable. But he was good in "Dark City" and "The Lost Boys".

"Maggots. You're eating maggots, Michael...."

[rhett o rick]

144. I agree. Dont like Alan Alda. nm

[Cha]

48. THanks for this news, blogslut..I

knew Keifer was Progressive but did not know that about his grandfather.

[blogslut]

53. Cool, isn't it?

Those wacky Canadians! :hi:

[happygoluckytoyou]

98. HES A CANADIAN????? better carry that BIRTH CERTIFICATE

[Mike Daniels]

29. As long as Morning Joe is competetive with CNN he'll stay on the air

And apparently that is exactly where he stands now.

MSNBC tried a number of hosts to replace Imus including Stephanie Miller. It appears that Joe S. and company performed the best and that's why he got the slot.

[Qutzupalotl]

38. That wasn't always the case with MSNBC.

You'll recall that they canned Donahue when he was one of their highest-rated shows, purely because of his views.

[Sebastian Doyle]

40. and replaced him with the Savage Weiner, no less.

Though that didn't last long, thank God!

[drbtg1]

41. Well, not quite

Mr. Donahue was on weekdays while Savage was on weekends.

[peekaloo]

8. There's a little Benjamin Franklin Pierce in him.

:rofl:

[eShirl]

15. You can take the man out of Crabapple Cove

but you can't take the Crabapple Cove out of the man.

[callous taoboy]

74. My thought exactly!

[Saturday]

9. And take Mika with you. nt

[Peregrine Took]

130. She drives me crazy she defers to him so much. Stepford gal all the way! n/t

[sinkingfeeling]

10. Since I refuse to watch any variant of 'news' on any TV station, who is Morning Joe? Is it

Scarborough?

[mmonk]

13. Yes, it's about Scar.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

11. I really like the show's format. Joe and (especially) Mika are frequently annoying.

I'd be about as pleased as anyone else if those two were replaced.
That said, my god this was a childish sounding rant from Sutherland.

Oh, and David Brooks? David Brooks?

[hlthe2b]

16. I beg to differ...

Mika is ALWAYS annoying.

;)

[Gidney N Cloyd]

25. Nah. She's fine with the sound turned off.

;-)

[liberation]

96. Funny, you chastise others as being childish for voicing their own opinions...

... and yet you are fascinated by a couple of boobs and a dye job.

Projection being the bitch that it is and all...

[Gidney N Cloyd]

121. Actually, I chastised Sutherland for voicing his (largely valid) opinion in a childish manner.

In other words, I was mostly fine with what he said but disappointed that his writing style seemed beneath his schooling and maturity.

And I remain unapologetic in my appreciation of beautiful women.

[Plucketeer]

105. There ya go!

There's no way I'd get up at 6 to watch these rubes.

[howmad1]

116. The only way I'd watch Joe and Mika at 6:00 A.M.......

....is if they had sex together on the air. Wait,I suspect their having sex together elsewhere.

[Cha]

51. Not in my view...it was an excellent call out

of joe.

[Meldread]

124. I agree.

I frequently watch the show. While I find Mika annoying, and dislike Joe, I absolutely loathe Mike Barnicle. I can tolerate / even find it in myself to like Willie Geist.

What I like about the show is the format. I absolutely love the format, and they more often than not get good guests.

I think the show lacks balance. If they had a strong liberal voice on the show, like instead of having someone like Mike Barnicle show up all the time as the fourth wheel... say... replace him with Lawrence O'Donnell. If they had someone like Lawrence on there every morning to balance things out the show suddenly becomes much better. It's pretty clear that Mika was supposed to be the voice from the left, but it appears as if he's indoctrinated her and when she does actually have a differing opinion Joe can easily bully her into silence. Lawrence wouldn't tolerate that shit.

[old mark]

12. Added another REC- Joe sucks, his companions suck, his show sucks. I turn MSNBC OFF

every morning from the start of Willie Geist to the end of Sloppy Joe. I can handle the rest, and enjoy most of it, but these people are terrible and I really agree - I don't understand why MSNBC keeps such shit on their schedule. Too many people watching your network and you need to lower the ratings?

Dump Joe NOW!!!:applause:

mark

[CTyankee]

83. MJ had Elizabeth Warren on today and Tina Brown who is always snippy to Joe

and laughs at Mika. I also like Jonathon Capehart when he's on. And Lawrence O'Donnell, Howard Dean and Joan Walsh. If we could get the same guests as those and have different anchors I would like it better, tho...

I mute all the RWingers when they come on or just flip the channel or turn it off and get a book...

[old mark]

I can no longer tolerate RWers on my TV - it is like someone spit on my carpet.....nt

[CTyankee]

90. Yup, it is definitely a room pollutant!

Can they get any worse?

[Supersedeas]

85. my off button works better than the mute button and OFF is better than Harold Ford

[CTyankee]

91. I only mute if I know someone good will be coming on after the 'thug.

It also gives me pleasure to wipe out their voices and resume reading the NY Times and sipping my coffee while they yammer on wordlessly.

If the rest of the program is worthless, I just turn the channel...I check the line up of guests on the MJ website the day before...if nobody good is going to be on, I keep the set off...

[old mark]

100. I can't blame you - I don't understand MSNBC's compulsion to keep

the same old RW faces coming back on show after show. I suppose they are after a "balance" in POV, but enough is enough...

mark

[CTyankee]

119. I've caught on to their game. I simply don't watch these guys.

Like you, I can't pollute my environment with their garbage. I truly value the quality of the air around me and I object to having them despoil it. So I am careful of my choices...I can see one of their obnoxious RW spokespersons a mile away...and no thanks...

[UTUSN]

14. K&R #23 n/t

[myrna minx]

17. Ok, this made me snort. At work.

:rofl:

[NorthCarolina]

19. I'd rather that MSNBC dump Morning Joe, and start the AM off with David Schuster.

They really need to get over themselves and bring him back.

[Mike Daniels]

42. Why would they do that when Shuster couldn't carry his own show when he had one?

They gave Shuster a shot during the late afternoon/early news slot. As much as I liked his show he apparently wasn't pulling the ratings they wanted and gave his slot to Ed Shultz.

[NorthCarolina]

68. They didn't give his slot to Ed

Ed is on from 6-7pm EST, and Schuster was on in the afternoon from 3-4pm EST. Schuster is gone not because of ratings, but because of his test screening with CNN.

[Mike Daniels]

80. Shuster hosted a political event show after the election

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1600_Pennsylvania_Avenue_(TV)

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue - initially hosted by David Gregory and then taken over by Shuster in December 2008. The show ran at 6 p.m. and was replaced by The Ed Show in April 2009.

Shuster was reassigned to an afternoon shift which means that his ratings weren't cutting it at the higher profile 6 p.m. slot.

Even if he was still at MSNBC, given his failure to hold the 6 p.m. slot I doubt MSNBC would have given him a morning show.

[Ian David]

20. Enough with the negative waves, baby!

[DefenseLawyer]

63. I'm not joking! This is my job!

[onehandle]

65. Frank Burns has gone nuts! I'm wearing glasses, for God's sake.

[AnArmyVeteran]

21. great writing!

[ashling]

22. Chris Matthews can run over everyone with the best of them

"He runs over everyone else's words with a landslide of diarrhea"

And David Brooks is hardly rational on many occasions ... still he's better than Joe Scum.

Otherwise Donald is spot on

[caty]

24. Funny you started this thread today.

I had just decided not to watch "Morning Joe" anymore. Joe leans way too far to the right for me. To the point that it seems like he will say anything just to get a reaction that can lead to an argument. I like to start my day with a little calm. Not listening to four people yelling over each other.

I was channel surfing this morning trying to find something else to watch, but with little success. There is either too much fluff or Joe. I might just start my day off with the "History Channel" or something.

Maybe the cartoon network. :rofl:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

27. Joe and Mika:

[shimmergal]

28. I'd like Mika to get away from Joe

and onto a show with a completely different format.

Given Morning Show's makeup, it's entirely possible she's acting out a scenario of being deferential to men while not appearing so. Maybe on a show like THE VIEW, or even one with a straight news & features format, she could blossom. WE do need more women on MSNBC. (And to counteract some of those dreadful prison tour shows!)

I do watch it when I'm awake (it starts at 3:30 or 4:00 AM out here), but mostly for the guests.
None of the male cast are worth listening to, except for Pat Buchanan -- not that I agree with him, but he's at least good-natured and sometimes funny.

[Mike Daniels]

44. I've seen Mika fill in for the afternoon "news" shows and it's totally different

When she's hosting a "news" show she comes off pretty well ( intelligent and informed ).

As previously mentioned, Morning Joe is a "morning zoo" type show broadcasting on TV vs. radio. As such, Mika plays the female sidekick role assigned to her.

I agree with you on Pat. As much as I'm at odds with his opinions he comes off as much more good-natured as opposed to the perpetually cranky Joe.

[proud2BlibKansan]

55. She must do those other shows sober

She seems drunk every time I turn on Morning Schmoe.

[CTyankee]

84. that's just schtick. I think she's a hard, cold dame...nt

[Bette Noir]

89. I saw some of those afternoon fill-ins. Oooof!

She went on and on one day, about how wonderful Sarah Palin was, and how she performed better than anyone else could have, who was "plucked out of nowhere." I thought I would puke. I was shocked when I heard, months later, that she's the designated liberal on "Morning Joe."

[CTyankee]

120. "designate liberal" my ass! She plays make believe all the time on that show.

But her head bobbing, agreeing with Joe, doesn't impress anybody. She's a fake and a phony...get rid of her and get somebody who can talk and doesn't do this ridiculous comedy routine with Joe...(it's obvious they are sleeping together).

[PatSeg]

58. I saw her guest host an afternoon show once

and she was a completely different person. Joe is a bully and it especially shows with the way he treats Mika, like the abused wife.

[liberation]

97. So Mika's act as a full blown neo-con bimbo peddler is due to Joe's mighty back hand?

Please....

[PatSeg]

146. No

I was referring to her awkward demeanor when she sits next to Joe. It is very uncomfortable to watch.

[Cetacea]

30. It's a republican show. I don't care how many dem guests appear

[wndycty]

32. The best line of the piece "This guy makes Pat Buchanan look embarrassed."

LOL

[NBachers]

33. As the pod people invasion continues . . .

[keith the dem]

34. Mika is who bugs me.

You watch this show for 2 minutes and it is obvious that Joe is a morning zoo buffoon, who shouldn't be taken seriously. The show would work if Mika would set him straight, not be a sycophant.

Howard Stern was only funny because Robin was there to set him in his place.

[kentuck]

35. I think she and Joe made a deal...

They would promote themselves as a team. They would promote each others books. They would travel together to different appearances. They would be entertainers. They would both wear sunglasses.

Mika made a deal with the devil. She gave up any independence and any free thought just to be a partner with Joe Scarborough.

Joe Scarborough seems to believe that if he can scream louder than everyone else, then he wins the argument. So far, it's working for him.

He and Pat Buchanan set the talking points for the day for the right-wing propagandists. They are difficult to counter once they have set in concrete for the entire day.

[liberation]

99. Yeah, it could not possibly be that entitled talentless hack was all bad on her own...

... nooooo sire bob!

[supernova]

36. Ha. Bless Donald Sutherland!

:rofl:

Thanks for the morning smile. :D

[freddie mertz]

37. Sutherland is great, and Stinky Joe sucks!

They should fire Joe and Willie, send Mika back to news-reading, send Barnicle back to the Boston Herald, send Buchanan to the funny farm, send Mark Halperin to Devil's Island, and send Harold Frakkin Ford back to Tennessee.

Then give the show to Stephanie Miller, like they should have done in the first place.

[Skidmore]

39. I beg to differ.

David Brooks isn't an improvement either.

[Quantess]

47. David Brooks is a lot more respectable, and more intelligent.

David Brooks would be huge improvement, just in terms of not being such an unbearable, obnoxious, arrogant, ass.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

57. David Brooks is dumb as a stump and a huge RW tool. I don't see the improvement.

[Quantess]

66. I just can't stand people who talk over others.

David Brooks, as kool-aid-swillingly corporate as he is, at least can speak his views without being an obnoxious ass. Even Glenn Beck lets other people speak without interrupting them!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

157. That's because the tea-bagging rebublickin' party has gone so far over the edge ...

... assholes like Brooks seem reasonable.

[Seneca]

43. "landslide of diarrhea"

One of the best turns of phrase ever! :rofl:

[political_Dem]

45. K and R. Good for Donald Sutherland.

[Cha]

46. Donald Sutherland! How cool is he!

Mika not worth mentioning.:)

Sutherland should write more about he thinks of corporatemedia..you know it gets back to them.

[Enrique]

50. I'd rather have Joe Scarborough than David Brooks

neither one is a prize, however.

[malaise]

54. Sweet

Doesn't he look in the mirror? That's where he'd see what a political hack looks like.

:rofl: :rofl:

[PatSeg]

60. I could handle a conservative point of view,

though I might not care for it, but Joe is an arrogant bully and that is particularly unpleasant to witness so early in the morning. He has more leeway in the morning than he did when he had an evening show and he takes advantage of it, evidently by being his true self.

[DeSwiss]

61. Mr. Small Mouth.

- And brain.....

K&R

[RagAss]

104. Yep..and a head the size of a beer keg !

[Hissyspit]

62. David Brooks? No thanks.

But, yeah, get rid of Joe and Mika.

[jobycom]

69. That's a mother beautiful commentary.

:rofl:

[Ganja Ninja]

72. I'll pass on David Brooks.

That's the trouble, trying to find a right winger that isn't a mealy mouth, disingenuous, liar with more than a little streak of insanity. It's impossible given the current state of conservatism in this country.

[Bette Noir]

92. Kathleen Parker, columnist at "The Washington Post,' is reasonable.

I haven't seen her on TV, but her writing is intelligent, and she doesn't suffer fools. She was one of the first to call out Sarah Palin.

[Enthusiast]

75. Mr. Smallmouth, lol. nt

[mfcorey1]

76. Kicked!!!!

[upi402]

77. Morning Joe & Andrea "Mrs Greenspan" Mitchell

Propaganda guaranteed to make you ill. I don't watch until Dillan Ratigan.

[riverbendviewgal]

78. I agree with Donald Sutherland

Do you all know that his father-in-law, Tommy Douglas ( the GREATEST CANADIAN TO LIVE) was the founder of Canada's one payer health system?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas

[totodeinhere]

79. I don't see anything wrong with having some ideological balance at MSNBC.

I might not agree with Joe, but personally, I don't mind listening to someone I disagree with. I welcome the intellectual challenge.

[WI_DEM]

86. Well, he's not saying to replace him with a liberal, but with a responsible conservative

(if there are any left).

[totodeinhere]

107. I hope you're not calling David Brooks a "responsible conservative." n/t

[Quantess]

103. Yes. Preferably one who doesn't shout over everyone else

like an obnoxious douchebag.

[CTyankee]

122. Brooks doesn't shout but he does make obnoxious statements in this "nice" way.

He is a closet racist and flies under the radar. I do not trust him. He is doing the work of the Repukes, pure and simple. Do NOT trust this man. He is the worst of the repukes because he portrays himself as "reasonable."

Don't get taken in!

[Quantess]

125. Don't get the idea I agree with Brooks on anything. I don't!

He's awful. But unlike Joe Scarborough at least he can present himself coherently and with appropriate turn-taking behaviors. That's all I'm saying.

[CTyankee]

153. Perhaps his non-overt style is more dangerous, tho. I'm sure you ARE aware of

Brooks's sly regressivism, but I think he fools people who see his nice demeanor and say that he's "reasonable," but when you break down what he's saying, he's just plain terrible...

[ShamelessHussy]

141. 'intellectual challenge' - lol - thats one helluva overstatement when it comes to them two

imho

Go out and get the television equivalent of David Brooks to chair your program. He'd be worth listening to. He'd give conservative opinion a rational voice. That person would be calmly articulate, and that'd make for worthwhile conversation.

now that would be welcome, not to mention more of an 'intellectual challenge'.

:hi:

[riverwalker]

88. and the producer is an idiot

they play gratuitius rock music during the show no matter how serious the story. They believe this will appeal to the young demographics ("see how hip and cool we are, kids?"). How fricking stupid do you think the American public is? We can't see a story about floods in Tennessee without rock music?

[Duval]

93. Allll riiiight!!! Thanks for this! n/t

[edwinmathews]

94. No One

watches that show so why does it matter ?

[LynneSin]

95. "He runs over everyone else's words with a landslide of diarrhea."

That is so quotable!

[McCamy Taylor]

106. Ever heard the phrase "fair and balanced"? Joe is the opposition.

His job is to make MSNBC look impartial---and the right wing look moronic. Would you rather they put on someone like George Will who can actually formulate a coherent argument?

[SoapBox]

108. Get rid of him...

Get rid of Joe the Clown and his NOT funny side kicks.

Sheesh MSNBC...pull you head out! If you would be Progressive...millions
more would watch. Stop doing this stupidity dance with idiots like this
guy and hater Buchanan.

[chillspike]

112. Dump Joe for with a liberal

Don't bother pretending to be "fair". What would be fair is if FOX went out of business. This is a war between MSNBC and FOX. I don't see FOX giving any shows to liberals.

[Fire1]

113. I've said before! Scarborough is a p.o.s.! Right on Donald.

Great minds think alike.

[Bluenorthwest]

114. God, I love Donald Southerland...

He's the best.

[merkins]

115. Replace him with Thom Hartmann?

Goodbye Joe, me gotta go, me oh my oh
Me gotta go pole the pirogue down the bayou
My Yvonne, the sweetest one, me oh my oh
Son of a gun, we'll have good fun on the bayou

Jambalaya, a-crawfish pie and-a file gumbo
'Cause tonight I'm gonna see my ma cher amio
Pick guitar, fill fruit jar and be gay-oh
Son of a gun, we'll have big fun on the bayou.


Thibodeaux, Fontainbleau, the place is buzzin'
Kinfolk come to see Yvonne by the dozen
Dress in style, go hog wild, me oh my oh
Son of a gun, we'll have big fun on the bayou.

Jambalaya, a-crawfish pie and-a fillet gumbo
'Cause tonight I'm gonna see my ma cher amio
Pick guitar, fill fruit jar and be gay-oh
Son of a gun, we'll have big fun on the bayou.

[troubledamerican]

134. Replace him with Donald Sutherland

Replace Thom Hartmann with Donald Sutherland, too

[Optimistic]

117. There should be a law

Against a network showing both sides of an issue. What we need is more hate on our networks to get people all upset and wanting to kill each other,

[alp227]

118. Joe's there to counter anyone who accuses MSNBC of liberal bias

This is a rather entertaining article, but MSNBC would go out of business without a conservative show in the morning to balance the liberals in the afternoon and evening.

If you live in the West Coast, you'd wake up at 6AM not to Joe's show but rather "The Daily Rundown" (hosted by Chuck Todd and Savannah Guthrie) and then a few hours of generic news programming. As a live network MSNBC creates this dichotomy.

What do you think about Andrea Mitchell's MSNBC show?

[Stinky The Clown]

123. It is because of Scab and that obsequeous Mika that I no longer watch MSNBC in the AM

I just quit watching. I feel better as a result.

[underpants]

127. They couldn't have someone as intelligent and viewable as Stephanie Miller....

give an audience their "conventional wisdom" as they leave the house every morning. The morning talking points are like the old "Blast fax" of the 90's-establish the norm (anything different would seem troubling) and their talking points for the watercooler group. It used to be that you didn't talk about politics or religion at work but the right changed that because they knew that they could dominate the media (they all went to the same schools and are in the same country clubs).

Check out the babe on CNN Headline News in the morning-the news is still tilted but it is much better TV if you know what I mean. Sorry Mika I no you took the great leap recently but you just aren't THAT worth it.

[morningglory]

131. And Willie has those dead, tv-feeb* eyes. You know: like a kid that has

spent 70 hours a week in front of a tv, and doesn't have normal expressions. Just dead.

[Mosaic]

132. Morning Joke

Is spin for republicans, watching or listening to that is toxic to sensible American liberal values. By all means cancel that turd of a show and program for your Progressive audience MSNBC. I've been calling for this joker to be canceled for well over a year. It is past time to fire him. Great thread to improve our daily lives.

[wial]

133. great stuff except

I don't think any conservatives have anything worthwhile to say for themselves, even Buckley and Safire. I do fondly wish the progressives had worthier opponents in America, but they just don't. Conservatives deny facts, and thus are completely, utterly invalid. The real debate should be between the greens and the centrist labor democrats. The only question is whether humans or the environment is more critically important. Free enterprise is an abomination against nature and humanity and it can go hang. Anyone who claims to represent it should be hanged. That means conservatives, and neocons, and neoliberals. Economics is supposed to serve humanity and the planet, not the other way around. Freedom for nature and humans only. Corporations are at best meant to be beasts of burden only.

[FrenchieCat]

135. I'd love to see it!

Loved to see that arrogant sneer get wiped off his long ass face with the beady eyes!

[daughter of liberty2]

138. Yep he needs to go. I can't get my

aunt to stop watching the guy. She swears that he is fair and bipartisan,so I told her to lay off the vodka. :banghead:

[NJCher]

139. can someone answer this question for me?

A poster at HP says:

"I agree with you a million times over, Mr. Sutherland (though I think you were charitable, in letting Joe's cohorts off the hook--so here I go, less charitably: Mika is the dimwitted progeny of Robin Quivers & Diane Sawyer; and Willie Geist is a perfect cretin)."

Since I have never watched this show, I would like to know who Willie Geist is. Is he talking about the CBS News reporter William Geist?


Cher

[Skidmore]

149. I believe Willie is the son of William Geist, a fact which I find really

disturbing. I always thought the elder Geist was a really good reporter, but the idea that he could raise such a blatantly airheaded son with obvious a bias toward stupid RW thinking is disappointing.

[Ticonderoga]

166. Willie is the least annoying

part of Morning Jerk. He's just a RW bootlicker. Barnicle and Mika are complete wastes of space and Joe is the Big man on campus...Don't know how many times he's reminded Mika of his High School Football player days and his half term in congress but the dude is a Big Zero. Bring in Stephanie Miller.

[PavePusher]

142. Uhh, wait a minute...

Joe Scarborough "runs over everyone else's words with a landslide of diarrhea.", but Chris Matthews is a "refreshing afternoon"?! Seriously?!

Whatever...

[Kerrytravelers]

143. Right on, Hawkeye Pierce!

:thumbsup:

[Jennicut]

145. Joe sucks but I find spineless Mika even more annoying. Heck, the show just is

one of the worst on cable news.

[madmax]

148. Just had to tune in this a.m.

I admit I watch this when I can't sleep. Definitely had to tune in today! Wondering if there would be a noticeable change and if Joe Scab would mention the article. Maybe it's me - sounds a little different ;o

[Skidmore]

150. They have seemed rather subdued for the past two mornings.

A little less wiggly, jiggly, giggly, snide stupidity from Mika and Joe seems to have dialed back his big man around campus crap. I've been wondering if someone has said something to them.

[madmax]

151. Maybe they, themselves read

Mr. Sutherland's article and (gasp) caught a reflection of truth. ;)

Joe was going on and on about comparing the gulf oil spill to to Katrina was idiotic and blaming Obama for tides, etc. dumb.

[12AngryBorneoWildmen]

164. Last week Mika and Joe intimated to Joan Walsh (love her) that KO was

the left wing equivalent to screaming, lying right wing hate merchants. Methinks KO flexed his rank within the network.

[Skidmore]

170. If he did, good for him.

Time someone stood up against this bully boy stuff.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

152. why don't they put Ellen on instead?

[stellanoir]

154. when I watch it

I only watch it for the bumper music.

They often play XTC and Costello a lot.

The rest is total drivel. IMHO

[Captain Hilts]

155. 'Morning Joe' just isn't worth worrying about. nt

[graywarrior]

156. That was beautiful!

[Swamp Rat]

158. k&r

[robcon]

160. Don't watch him if you don't like him.

The only thing that will get him off the air is poor ratings.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

161. Mr. Sutherland can certainly turn a phrase

I can't stand the TV being on that early in the day. But to see Joe Scarborough at that hour would ruin my day totally. He's such a snarky bastard.

K&R for the Donald.

[tiredtoo]

162. morning joe

I watch this show every morning. Gives me a chance to see what the others are thinking. I occasionally have to switch channels when they get too biased but, he is the least of all the evils on the right.

[Jefferson23]

163. LOL@ Mr. Small Mouth. Sutherland, this was fun to read.

He is such an extraordinary actor, is he not? He can play the most empathetic, dear, good natured loving parent of a troubled son
in Ordinary People, to a very creepy and believable villain as he did in Backdraft. Of course, MASH will always be one of my favorites too.

[Ticonderoga]

165. Stephanie Miller

She wouldn't be to hard to wake up to in the morning.

[ClassWarrior]

172. + 1 million

NGU.

[valerief]

167. Oh, I can't rec this enough! +100 trillion!!!! nt

[Pryderi]

168. I've never seen 2 people more uncomfortable with each other on a show than Mika and Joe, they

have no chemistry at all and don't understand the dynamics of conversation.

[madmax]

171. You noticed that, too

Seems to me an undercurrent of contempt which runs through his verbal and body language when talking to Mika Mouse.

I also, can't stand how he drops comments such as, 'a friend of mine at 'the agency' whispered in my ear...' Always with that bullshit as if he's an insider. He's such a jackass with a big mouth I wouldn't tell him what day of the week it is. :mad:

[ClassWarrior]

173. Yeah, but if they're going to put on a con, it might as well be a buffoon like Joey.

NGU.