Obama announces a "Commission to investigate the accident" not good.

[Stuart G]

"As Obama officially unveiled a commission to investigate the accident, he issued a stern message that while keeping pressure on firms involved in the still-uncapped spill — BP, Halliburton and Transocean Ltd — he would also hold Washington accountable for mending its ways."...from one of many current news stories..

Elaborate Commissions don't seem to work. I recall the Warren Commission on Kennedy's Assignation. Almost 50 years later, we still have many unanswered questions. How about the 9/11 Commission?. We know for sure they did a lousy job. Most of the time, it is the beginning of some kind of "cover up"

I wish Obama would have the military take complete control and throw BP out. Use BPs equipment and get them out of there.

[charlesg]

1. It was just an ACCIDENT - like Rand Paul said

[northernlights]

22. oh right. an accident. Like, they accidentally didn't prepare

contingency plans that were supposed to be on file. They accidentally drilled quite a bit deeper than they were licensed to. They accidentally went rushed ahead with finishing off the cap after their pressure reports showed leaks in the cement job. Andthey accidentally didn't notice there was oil gushing for several days...until they couldn't hide that little fact any longer.

Just like I accidentally ran a traffic light and mowed down a pedestrian. Yeah, it's true the mechanic said I needed new brakes, but that would have cost too much money. Besides, after I paid off my cousin, I got an inspection sticker, so the brakes really were ok. :eyes:

[WeDidIt]

2. Your last sentence woudl violate the law.

The law puts the onus completely on the oil company and the feds have no power to do that.

In order to take over the effort, one of three things must happen:

1) Martial law is declared. Obama can then nationalize all BP assets in the US and take complete control. Lovely, we give up all civil liberties over an oil spill.

2) A legislative action is passed by the House and the Senate and signed into law by Obama. Possible, but extremely time consuming. In fact, the relief well would take less time to drill than getting such legislation passed.

3) A court order turning over control of the effort to the feds. The problem is, you would have to have grounds to bring such a suit in the first place and to date I see no such grounds for civil action to obtain such a court order.

So there you have it.

[ima_sinnic]

6. so once again poor widdle Obama is helpless? is that what you're saying?

I wonder why you minimize what is happening by calling it "an oil spill"?
Have you been asleep for a month? How can you call an out-of-control gusher a "spill"?

Then you imply that, since it's "only a spill," it's not worth giving up "civil liberties" for. Since it's a planetary threat, it should be treated as such. It would seem the most important "liberties" being considered are those of BP's. You imply it's not worth being radical about.

You don't see "grounds for civil action to obtain such a court order"? What about willful negligence, incompetence, and a threat to the human race?

But since your opinions are such a perfect reflection of the conservative corporate kowtowing and bowing and scraping of this administration, I can only conclude that your excuses for doing nothing are approximately those that the president would use.

Fuck it, just let the oil run dry from that well. Put a gun to the head of the earth and get it over with--oh, be sure the corpos make their last billion or so first.

[TheWatcher]

26. He parades around as a "Progressive" but on the rare ocasion he posts something of sustance that

isn't an attack, there is very little to be found that doesn't bring two words leaping to the mind.

1. Paid

2. Hmmmmm, what is that second word.....Rhymes with Thrill....

Oh, I'm sure it will come to me. :)

[neverforget]

16. He doesn't need to declare martial law or use all the powers in that act.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8391891

[blindpig]

3. Expropriate without compensation

k&r

[KharmaTrain]

9. And Watch Gas Prices Soar To $5 A Gallon...

...along with everything else that requires oil...electricity, food and transportation for starters. Yep that'll really make things a lot better.

I'd prefer to sue them into submission...make them have to spend as much on lawyers as they do on lobbyists and drain the life out of them that way.

[Donnachaidh]

11. fearmongering becoming a democratic tactic?

Yeah, let's just pee down our legs and DO NOTHING.

That'll teach the oil companies.....

[amborin]

21. +1

[AndyA]

4. Let's see...who will be on this commission? Oil industry insiders?

Because they have the knowledge necessary to determine what happened and who's at fault?

Right.

Rooster guarding the hen house.

Alcoholic with a key to the liquor cabinet.

Bank robber with the combination to the safe.

When will the madness end? We need outsiders who will question EVERYTHING and demand PROOF when they are told something. Enough of this corporate America insider shit. All that's done is bring us corruption, abuse, waste, and lies.

[Stuart G]

5. The lies on this are incredible. The truth will not come from BP...

Who knows what damage they have done in their efforts to "stop this"

[Individualist]

24. Co-chairs are one of NDC's founders and a republican.

[Motown_Johnny]

7. I would prefer a police commissioner

[Stuart G]

8. The thread at this link, attempts to answer some of these concerns,

by scheming daemons..but it has been 30 days, these assholes, BP, don't seem to be doing much...Many of us are very very angry.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8391240&mesg_id=8391240

[DJ13]

10. I think we need to form a commission to investigate

DC's love of forming commissions to everything.

[Motown_Johnny]

12. I suggest an exploratory committee be formed to look into this matter

[ima_sinnic]

13. so he's treating even this as "business as usual," eh?

even as the world's oceans are under threat, and by extension the entire planet because of the interconnectedness of life, he is stuck on "bipartisanship" and the most stuffy, stultifying, wishy-washy, most ineffectual response.

whatever. I plan to enjoy my remaining few years however I can--hopefully any robbery of Social Security will kick in after I'm gone or after humans go extinct, whichever comes first.

[Captain Hilts]

14. Well, the wildlife has nothing to worry about now. Whew! nt

[Captain Hilts]

15. The Warren Commission did NOT examine JFK's "assignation!" That would have been interesting!!!!

[Stuart G]

19. the word is Assassination.....now my defense on this .follows.

originally I spelled it assination,,,,so.....spell check said change to ...assignation .
..which was the top pick...so I changed it..to that..forgetting that the correct spelling is assassination..Yes, I did use spell check..next time I will use google.

So..spell a sentence using... assinatin..try it. thanks
,,, and I know that my fellow travelers is spelling hell understand.

also...I am sorry for taking this off topic, but I thought a rebuttal was in order

[Captain Hilts]

25. Spell check IS problematic!

I hear you!

[RainDog]

17. he should investigate his own administration

and ask why the gave bp a pass on standards.

THAT'S why this happened.

[kenny blankenship]

18. "Form a blue ribbon bipartisan commission" = The Kiss of Death

[northernlights]

20. oh boy. a stern warning. BP is shaking in its collective boots, I'm sure.

:eyes:

[Stuart G]

23. I don't think BP gives one damn what Obama or anyone thinks..nt