Pet Foods, Pork, Chickens & now farmed fish..Melamine again

[SoCalDem]

It's a TOXIN.. Kidneys & livers filter (or try to) toxins..

In pets with small body mass it caused acute kidney disease/death, which started the investigations..

but in humans (larger animals-more tolerance for small amounts), who's to say that all the uptick in kidney/liver disease might not be linked to this?

I cannot get it out of my head.

This stuff has probably been in our food chain for a very long time, and could have been affecting us in "small" ways until finally the kidneys & liver say "hey..enough already"..

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_5846590

Farmed fish fed contaminated material
By ANDREW BRIDGES Associated Press Writer
Article Launched: 05/08/2007 11:29:12 AM PDT

WASHINGTON- Farmed fish were fed meal spiked with an industrial chemical linked to the ongoing recall of pet foods, though the contamination level was probably too low to pose a danger to anyone who may have eaten the fish, federal health officials said Tuesday.

The Canadian-made meal included what was purported to be wheat gluten, a protein source, imported from China. The material was actually wheat flour spiked by the chemical melamine and related, nitrogen-rich compounds to make it appear more protein rich than it was, officials said.

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[Coventina]

1. Several people I know have died of liver cancer recently

and they were not drinkers or had any of the usual risk factors.

This is scary stuff.

[undergroundpanther]

16. In my old neighborhood

There were 12 houses on the street.All of the houses except 1 had a person who got cancer in the household. My father died of colon cancer, my neighbor's kid had leukemia,there were lung stomach Brain and breast cancers. And these people who got Cancer that were adults lived to be no older than around 60.Some of the younger people died earlier tho.

Kinda scary only one household out of 12 was cancer free on my street.
We didn't live near power lines in fact we were in the country, surrounded by fields and woods.
Yes We ARE being slowly poisoned.

[aquart]

2. Are they making ANY effort to recall that food?

[MissB]

4. Why would they?

What choice do American consumers have? By and large, most Americans simply trust that the food they buy is safe.

I haven't eaten beef for years. I've cut off pork now, and will only buy free range organic chicken. I can afford to do that - but my budget will see a significant uptick because of the switch to as many organic foods as possible.

[undergroundpanther]

17. People eat the food because

Alot of them haven't the time or energy to be worried about food on top of everything else. Some cannot afford free range organics and remember the FDA gutted the standards for what is organic, so organics might not be organic at all.
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/organic.html
We have been MADE dependant on corporations,slowly over generations.. because if you can control the food supply you can control the world,Just ask Montsano about the killer gene.That makes seed saving impossible..

http://www.organicconsumers.org/Monsanto/bioserf.cfm
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2005/10/10/101310/50
http://www.fdrs.org/monsanto_seed_company.html

[SoCalDem]

8. The latest contamination was wheat FLOUR not even gluten

Think about all the things you eat that contain FLOUR..:grr:

[StarryNite]

10. And it was no accident.

This was intentionally done in order to make more profits by these Chinese companies. Our government should stop all Chinese imports of food and feed immediately. But nooooo, instead they are downplaying the health risks to us even though thousands of our beloved pets have already died from the same damn thing. Not to mention they are covering up which companies are at fault in many cases. :mad:

[SoCalDem]

14. I'd like to see the CDC do mandatory biopsies of kidneys/livers

of all people with kidney/liver disease and TEST for melamine traces..

I think we deserve to know if we are being slowly poisoned .

[StarryNite]

18. Me too.

Melamine is not food. It's not supposed to be ingested in any amounts. Many poisons have a cumulative effect on the body. Small amounts of melamine over time could be very deadly.

[SoCalDem]

19. I have a feeling that we have all been eating this shit for decades

and the cumulative effect is slowly killing us..

[HockeyMom]

3. Is it eliminated by the body?

Or can it be stored and built up? In that case it could take years for the effects to be seen in humans.

Which?

[SoCalDem]

6. Who knows? It's not supposed to be IN our food or our bodies.

That's the problem. What if it's been in LOTS of our foods..for years.. withour our knowledge. ?

Chemical companies "owning" food processing companies has never seemed to be a good idea/.... to me anyway.. That pretty much makes it easy to hide lots of shifty things..

[undergroundpanther]

15. There are HUNDREDS of

Things that are NOT supposed to be in our bodies, it's called your body burden.
http://www.pbs.org/tradesecrets/problem/bodyburden.html

[StarryNite]

5. They don't know if it's harmful?

FDA Announces Millions of Chickens Contaminated with Melamine and Sold to Humans

~snip~

While there have been no reports of serious human illness due to eating melamine tainted pork or poultry, the effects of melamine on humans are not known.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/231055/fda_announces_millions_of_chickens.html


I guess they are just going to wait until people start keeling over from it. :shrug:

[SoCalDem]

7. Maybe they already HAVE been keeling over..but no one knew WHAT

caused their livers/kidneys to fail :(

[BadgerKid]

13. Contributing factor in today's ailments?

Obesity, gluten intolerance, diabetes, etc. etc. :( :scared:

[undergroundpanther]

9. Everything is contaminated

Because there are too many of us,and the corporate model creates so much needless waste to ensure profits..Look we cannot make the Earth produce more than it does naturally without using up more energy and resources to "force it to produce MORE than it can".More production means creating more wastes some need to find a use,for the wastes so they do not create a bigger mess, now there is so much wastes the toxicity is running up the food chain,because there are too many of us for the Earth to sustain by itself without "technological methods". We are due for a setback.An evolutionary "bottleneck",
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/166869.stm


one we made happen by not taking care of the soil and the Earth and the animals and each other.We turned Earth into a product and now that we have it does what all products do when they are worn out, they break from overuse..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hhsrGlt_u8

http://dieoff.org/
http://ranprieur.com/essays/slowcrash.html
http://www.rainbowbody.net/Finalempire/index.html

And every year some 5,000 or more new chemicals get approved for use in industry and some get permitted to be used in other applications they were not originally meant to be used for, and nobody knows what effects all this shit might have on us.

For example Cymbalta was originally an ADD drug,now it's marketed as an antidepressant on TV. How short the memory is all the better to repackage the same old toxins under a new name and purpose..

[SoCalDem]

11. Isn't that the truth..

We've been stressing about wars & bombs, and yet what finally does us in might be our greed and lust for profits by "spiking" our food with toxins so CEOs can make lots of money.. I can only hope they are at least eating the same stuff :grr:

[undergroundpanther]

12. The "real " elites I am

Sure are NOT eating this shit. Bush's ranch is self sustaining.
http://www.ofee.gov/sb/wh_solar.html
These evil pieces of shit KNOW how to be ecologically safe,but for the publick they don't bother,we are Expendable slaves to them, marks duped to be used up. I think they want to cull the herd of proles before THEY start feeling the effects of thier own toxic empire themselves. We will die before they even feel the effects of what they have done.

Are the rich a form of pollution? (Yeah they ARE)


I'm enough of a touchy-feely sociology-lover to believe that a good chunk of the utility the rich derive from their conspicuous consumption is transferred to them from the poor.

http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2006/09/are-rich-form-of-pollution.html


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