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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:03 PM
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It's Time for MoveOn to Start Talking about Impeachment
To Eli Pariser, MoveOn.org Executive Director:

With more than 3 million members, MoveOn plays a vital role not only in shaping public policy, but in educating the American public about the most important political issues of the day. With this power comes a responsibility to engage with these issues in as forthright a manner as possible.

Until now, MoveOn has declined to call for the impeachment of George W. Bush or Dick Cheney, citing a purported lack of interest among its membership. But, as many frustrated members have pointed out, they have not been asked. It has recently come to light that MoveOn is quietly conducting an online poll on the question among a small group of its members. We applaud this encouraging first step but hope that MoveOn will go further by soliciting feedback from its entire membership. When asked why the poll was not taken of all members, a MoveOn organizer explained:

Rarely do we send out a survey like this to the whole membership (we work very hard to send no more than one email to our members per day; the more they receive the less likely they are to open any of them, there is also an issue of bandwidth capabilities). We generally only do that when we have to act immediately or when we are acting on very specific legislation.

We feel confident that the membership of MoveOn will forgive the organization a single e-mail about a question of such urgency and importance. And we would remind MoveOn that specific legislation on impeachment already exists. H Res 333, introduced by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), and cosponsored by Rep. William Lacy Clay (D-MO) and Rep. Janice Schakowsky (D-IL) calls for the impeachment of Vice-President Cheney on the grounds that he manipulated intelligence "to deceive the citizens and Congress of the United States by fabricating a threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction to justify the use of the United States Armed Forces against the nation of Iraq."

Few will dispute that lying the nation into a disastrous war that has claimed the lives of more than 3,000 Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis rises to the level of "high crimes and misdemeanors" and that these allegations merit serious examination by Congress. On April 28, 2007, Americans in more than 125 locations around the country took to the streets to demonstrate their support for impeachment. That same weekend, delegates to the annual convention of the California Democratic Party, the largest state chapter of the Democratic Party, overwhelmingly passed a resolution calling for the impeachment of George Bush and Dick Cheney. Two days later, speaking on NPR, leading antiwar Congressman John Murtha (D-PA) pointedly said that impeachment was "on the table" in Congress.

The time has come for the Bush administration to be held accountable. We respectfully urge MoveOn to exercise leadership on the question of impeachment and to begin an open dialogue with its members about the issue. As MoveOn likes to say, "Every member has a voice."

Medea Benjamin

Elaine Brower
Steering Committee, World Can't Wait, mother of U.S. Marine

Tim Carpenter
Director, Progressive Democrats of America

Noam Chomsky
MIT

Marjorie Cohn
President, National Lawyers Guild

Elizabeth de la Vega
Former federal prosecutor and author of U.S. v. George W. Bush et. al.

Jane Dugdale
Coordinator, Bryn Mawr Council of MoveOn/Operation Democracy

Bob Fertik
President, Democrats.com and ImpeachPAC.org

Elizabeth Holtzman
Former Congresswoman, member of House panel that voted to impeach President Nixon, author of The Impeachment of George W. Bush.

Dave Lindorff
Author of The Case for Impeachment

Dennis Loo
Co-editor of Impeach the President: the Case Against Bush and Cheney

Cynthia McKinney
Former Congresswoman, author of impeachment legislation in the 109th Congress

Bill Moyer
Executive Director, Backbone Campaign

Brad Newsham
Founder, The Beach Impeach Project

Jacob Park
A28 National Coordinator

Peter Phillips
Director, Project Censored, Co-editor of Impeach the President: The Case Against Bush and Cheney

Cindy Sheehan
Director, Camp Casey Peace Institute

David Swanson
Co-founder, AfterDowningStreet.org coalition

Howard Zinn
Author of A People's History of the United States



Contact: MoveOnToImpeachment@gmail.com

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/moveontoimpeachment/
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:07 PM
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1. Thank you!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:08 PM
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2. Go to the link and sign the petition
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:15 PM
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4. Yes will do.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:17 PM
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5. Must be on overload as I can't get there right now, but will try again later.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:19 PM
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6. Yep, site problems. Not loading or slow loading.
Will try again later.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:14 PM
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3. Absolutely agree. MoveOn needs to get a "move on" and put impeachment
FIRMLY on the table. In fact, it should be the main course!

Off to sign the petition! Thanks for posting.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:44 PM
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10. Agreed
I am so glad someone is taking this to moveon.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:22 PM
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7. Done
thanks for the link... I LOVE that picture from the San Francisco Beach Impeach.. it should be seen world wide!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:56 PM
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16. Yep!
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:26 PM
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8. Hey, I didn't see Skinner's name on that list!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:28 PM
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9. Send him a PM and tell him to sign it.
:)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:45 PM
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11. linky dink still no workie to petition.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:50 PM
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13. It is slow but working for me.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 08:03 PM
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17. The second one
worked. :applause: Only 797 sigs :shrug:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 08:07 PM
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20. Just emailed to me an hour or so ago.
Give it time. It shout to the greatest page here pretty fast.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:54 PM
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15. LOL Listen to this song!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 08:03 PM
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18. The one with the purse.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:16 PM
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23. I bought that song!
It was only 99 cents!!

It's hilarious. Get it. You will love it.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:50 PM
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12. Put impeachment on the table where it belongs.
It's what's for dinner. Hm. Maybe that's wrong.

Impeachment- think of it as medicine. No. That's not it.


Impeachment- Bush deserves it. Three thousand times over.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:52 PM
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14. ITMFA!!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 08:08 PM
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21. I have no idea what that means. You've made me Google.
Runs off to google. Googles. Finds Urbandictionary. AHA!


Love it! :)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:15 PM
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22. Impeach The Mother Fuckers Already
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 08:06 PM
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19. Would impeachment really help? Only if Cheney goes too.
Would President Cheney do something better? I could only imagine a double impeachment would be worthwhile. Then Democrats would hold the keys.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:19 PM
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24. Impeach Cheney FIRST!!
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:25 PM
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25. Removing Bush and Cheney from office is every American's duty
We all need to get with the program.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:41 PM
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26. Wow, I feel special
I got picked to be a part of that poll and I voted for impeachment of course.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:46 AM
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33. LOL me too
and I quit moveon in March. Sent them a nasty email too.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 11:10 PM
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27. That will be pleasantly ironic. n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 11:35 PM
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28. Yay! GREAT idea!
:kick: :dem: :hi:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:47 AM
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34. I knew you would love it!!
:hi:
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 06:15 AM
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29. D&K&R
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:26 AM
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30. It's been years since I sent an email to
a sizeable portion of my email list and urged them to do anything but I just sent the links and asked them to sign the petition. For all the well deserved criticism of MoveOn they have strength in numbers and most MoveOn members would support impeachment. It's another step we can take to build the ground-swell. Impeachment will distract and discredit Bush, further limit his power and, IMO, act to limit the damage he can do in the next 600+ days left on his term.

... besides, in the section on impeachment in the Constitution it says, "Hey People, this means Chimpy!"
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:45 AM
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31. Oh thank you so so much!!
:yourock:
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:45 AM
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32. It is way past time.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 02:52 PM
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35. Here's Boxer's stance on impeachment, from a reply from her office.
I imagine it's also pretty close to how Pelosi feels. And I find it revealing. Although it's just as I expected. Get the House moving on impeachment now!



Dear Mr. Kuljian:



Thank you for contacting me regarding H.Res.333, a resolution to impeach Vice President Richard B. Cheney. I appreciate hearing from you.



Our Constitution requires that impeachment proceedings begin in the House of Representatives. The House must vote for impeachment before presenting its case to the Senate. The Senate then holds a trial to consider the case for impeachment.



H.Res.333 is currently being considered by the House Judiciary Committee. Should H.Res.333 reach the Senate, please know that I will fulfill my Constitutional duty to the best of my ability by considering all of the facts in the case - and there certainly are many!



Again, thank you for writing to me. Please do not hesitate to contact me again about this or any other issue of concern to you.

Barbara Boxer
United States Senator
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