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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:10 PM Original message |
Would you be ashamed as an American if we 'lost' in Iraq? |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'd be much more ashamed if we stayed, year after year, forfeiting the lives of more Americans as |
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WritersBlock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'm not sure I could be any more ashamed of what we've done in the name of "winning" already. n/t |
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Monkeyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. Its All Ready Lost Nope Bring Them Home Now |
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ProgressiveFool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. They don't seem to understand that most of us are ashamed already |
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Merlot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
34. I second that |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm ashamed 1,000,000 + are dead as a result of the invasion... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. It's too late. I'm already ashamed. n/t |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Ditto your sentiment; can't get any more ashamed than I already am. nt |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. I am ashamed of a government that started an illegal, unjust and immoral war based on LIES |
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Grandrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
66. Exactly right.... |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. We already did lose and I'm ashamed that Bush Co. did it under our name. |
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Kikosexy2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. No... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
10. He's an Ahole |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Do you know who it was? |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
11. Why would "I" be ashamed? I didn't support it from the start. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
12. I'm already ashamed. And it has nothing to do with the fact that we already lost. |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
13. the shame is in committing the crime in the first place |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
14. lolololololololol Uh...No ..I am ashamed we ever invaded |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. That about says it all |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. We sure did |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
15. I'm deeply ashamed enough of us were fooled |
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milkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
17. No. It's not "we" that would lose, it's the neocons. Those that fought the war, |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
19. Was it Andrew McCarthy of NRO by any chance? |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. nope it was a bushbot former soldier, a LT. somebody |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. He made me ashamed as shit. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
54. He's been doing that a lot lately, from what I hear. |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'm ashamed all right! |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
21. I AM ashamed of America, and we DID lose. |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
22. The shame began long before Iraq. |
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rec_report (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
23. What do you mean, 'if?' All that's left is the *surrender ceremony,*... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
25. I'm ashamed we went in there in the first place, when there were so many other ways of getting the |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
28. We've already lost/ |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
29. personally I am only ashamed that |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
30. I'm ashamed that we launched an unjustified war in Iraq, |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
32. I am already ashamed that we are in Iraq. We lost before we began. |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. As if it were a game, Baghdad dick today: "It's Game Time" |
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blueworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
33. I'm ashamed because we let it start to begin with |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
35. The only thing I am ashamed of is... |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
36. lost what? I thought we had Mission Accomplished 5 decades again |
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windy252 (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
38. There's still no clear definition of what it means to win or lose |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I believe they plan for this to go on for decades. |
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windy252 (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. I've heard rumors to that effect, |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
39. The very statement reduces G.I.'s to football players, or pawns. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
40. Not at all, because what we're dealing with in Iraq isn't a "war" |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Shame on you for saying that! Cause it's true. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
42. I don't know what that means |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
43. Why would I be? |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
44. I'm already ashamed that we illegally invaded and occupied a country |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
46. Lost what? |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-10-07 06:23 AM Response to Reply #46 |
75. You can't "win" or "lose" an occupation. |
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Bjornsdotter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
47. We lost the day we went in |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
48. I'm not even sure what "winning" and "losing" in Iraq are. |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. We silly weaklings with no stomach for war will be blamed. |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. What's sad is that with the kind of P.R. that got us into Iraq, we could get out AND... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
51. Our loss increases every day we continue our occupation of Iraq. Over half of Iraq's Parliament and |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
52. Not at all |
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jimshoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
53. No, but I would be outraged |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
55. Uh... we've already lost and I'm not ashamed. |
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sallyseven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
56. We already lost. Now we need to get |
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Rydz777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
58. To "lose" you first have to define "win" and that |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
59. Our entire involvement there has been shameful ... |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
60. I am ashamed enough that we went there in the first place |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
61. I can't get any more ashamed than I already am. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
62. I am embarrassed we let the cruelest and dumbest in America start their evil war in the first place. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
63. We have no moral right to "win" this war, whatever "win" means |
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Sapere aude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
64. This is not a sporting event. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
65. we already lost. I am ashamed because we did this in the first place |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
67. There was nothing to win, so there's nothing to lose...in terms of strategic value. |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-10-07 05:49 AM Response to Original message |
68. Shameless kick |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-10-07 05:55 AM Response to Original message |
69. The tricky part is... |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-10-07 05:55 AM Response to Original message |
70. If I was a republican I would be ashamed!!!!!!!! |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-10-07 06:10 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Yesterday I saw my first W 04 sticker in weeks. I drive over 500 miles |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-10-07 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
71. The war was lost from the moment that we invaded |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-10-07 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
73. We? I Didn't Order This Clusterfuck |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-10-07 06:16 AM Response to Original message |
74. I am ashamed that we ever invaded. It was a crime. |
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dddem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-10-07 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
76. I'm so sick of hearing 'win' and 'lose' about this shameful situation. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-10-07 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
77. We lost the day we invaded under false pretenses |
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watercolors (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-10-07 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
78. We lost when we went |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-10-07 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
79. I'm already ashamed -- that we went there in the first place. (nt) |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-10-07 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
80. no |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-11-07 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
81. ............. |
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