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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:14 AM
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Jumping the shark: "Obama failed to act like a chief executive tonight"
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/015100.php

Tuesday :: Jun 15, 2010
Jumping the Shark

Barack Obama set a challenge for himself tonight. After mishandling the federal government’s response to BP’s negligence, the president’s job tonight was to give the public confidence that he and his administration were taking charge of the debacle, and fully aware of what needed to be done, at a time when the public wanted exactly that.

Yet Obama failed to act like a chief executive tonight, opting instead for a dry sermon about energy policy and prayer. All the while, the speech avoided leadership, a sense of command, and vision. Rather, it seemed simply to serve as an opportunity for Obama to repeat whatever he’s said over the last six weeks, and then move on, just as the White House confirmed privately. Aside from some lame talk about holding BP responsible, he still managed to downplay the current crisis, in a rush to the future without dealing with current accountability.

Just like he treats the Bush administration.

Even as he said the "federal government has been in charge of the largest environmental cleanup effort in our nation's history", he didn’t say a word about protecting the workers who have been negligently sent out to clean this up without protection, and not a word was said about holding BP accountable for the numerous safety violations it commits daily.

Not a word was said about the public health and safety crisis caused by this spill and BP’s lack of attentiveness to this emerging calamity.

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Instead, the president used six paragraphs to talk about hope and prayer, which is not likely to inspire anyone’s confidence that the federal government knows the way forward. His speech seemed weak and reactive; it made the federal government and his administration look impotent, overmatched, and even more faith-based in its modus operandi than the Bush administration ever did.

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:20 AM
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1. I'M SO DAMN SICK OF THIS DAMN TRIPE CRAP
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:23 AM
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4. .
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:48 AM
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16. SPOT ON, ORGEONE
you nailed it
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 12:28 PM
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51. Perfect reply!
:applause:
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:55 AM
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40. It won't feel so trite when it comes back to bite Obama and the Party.
The OP expressed some important concerns.

:dem:

-Laelth
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:21 AM
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2. Okay.....
What speech was that?

Good evening. As we speak, our nation faces a multitude of challenges. At home, our top priority is to recover and rebuild from a recession that has touched the lives of nearly every American. Abroad, our brave men and women in uniform are taking the fight to al Qaeda wherever it exists. And tonight, I've returned from a trip to the Gulf Coast to speak with you about the battle we're waging against an oil spill that is assaulting our shores and our citizens.

On April 20th, an explosion ripped through BP's Deepwater Horizon drilling rig, about forty miles off the coast of Louisiana. Eleven workers lost their lives. Seventeen others were injured. And soon, nearly a mile beneath the surface of the ocean, oil began spewing into the water.

Because there has never been a leak of this size at this depth, stopping it has tested the limits of human technology. That is why just after the rig sank, I assembled a team of our nation's best scientists and engineers to tackle this challenge - a team led by Dr. Steven Chu, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist and our nation's Secretary of Energy. Scientists at our national labs and experts from academia and other oil companies have also provided ideas and advice.

As a result of these efforts, we have directed BP to mobilize additional equipment and technology. In the coming days and weeks, these efforts should capture up to 90% of the oil leaking out of the well. This is until the company finishes drilling a relief well later in the summer that is expected to stop the leak completely.

Already, this oil spill is the worst environmental disaster America has ever faced. And unlike an earthquake or a hurricane, it is not a single event that does its damage in a matter of minutes or days. The millions of gallons of oil that have spilled into the Gulf of Mexico are more like an epidemic, one that we will be fighting for months and even years.

But make no mistake: we will fight this spill with everything we've got for as long it takes. We will make BP pay for the damage their company has caused. And we will do whatever's necessary to help the Gulf Coast and its people recover from this tragedy.

Tonight I'd like to lay out for you what our battle plan is going forward: what we're doing to clean up the oil, what we're doing to help our neighbors in the Gulf, and what we're doing to make sure that a catastrophe like this never happens again.

First, the cleanup. From the very beginning of this crisis, the federal government has been in charge of the largest environmental cleanup effort in our nation's history - an effort led by Admiral Thad Allen, who has almost forty years of experience responding to disasters. We now have nearly 30,000 personnel who are working across four states to contain and cleanup the oil. Thousands of ships and other vessels are responding in the Gulf. And I have authorized the deployment of over 17,000 National Guard members along the coast. These servicemen and women are ready to help stop the oil from coming ashore, they are ready to help clean the beaches, train response workers, or even help with processing claims - and I urge the governors in the affected states to activate these troops as soon as possible.

Because of our efforts, millions of gallons of oil have already been removed from the water through burning, skimming, and other collection methods. Over five and a half million feet of boom has been laid across the water to block and absorb the approaching oil. We have approved the construction of new barrier islands in Louisiana to try and stop the oil before it reaches the shore, and we are working with Alabama, Mississippi, and Florida to implement creative approaches to their unique coastlines.

more to come....

As the clean up continues, we will offer whatever additional resources and assistance our coastal states may need. Now, a mobilization of this speed and magnitude will never be perfect, and new challenges will always arise. I saw and heard evidence of that during this trip. So if something isn't working, we want to hear about it. If there are problems in the operation, we will fix them.

But we have to recognize that despite our best efforts, oil has already caused damage to our coastline and its wildlife. And sadly, no matter how effective our response becomes, there will be more oil and more damage before this siege is done. That's why the second thing we're focused on is the recovery and restoration of the Gulf Coast.

You know, for generations, men and women who call this region home have made their living from the water. That living is now in jeopardy. I've talked to shrimpers and fishermen who don't know how they're going to support their families this year. I've seen empty docks and restaurants with fewer customers - even in areas where the beaches are not yet affected. I've talked to owners of shops and hotels who wonder when the tourists will start to come back. The sadness and anger they feel is not just about the money they've lost. It's about a wrenching anxiety that their way of life may be lost.

I refuse to let that happen. Tomorrow, I will meet with the chairman of BP and inform him that he is to set aside whatever resources are required to compensate the workers and business owners who have been harmed as a result of his company's recklessness. And this fund will not be controlled by BP. In order to ensure that all legitimate claims are paid out in a fair and timely manner, the account must and will be administered by an independent, third party.

Beyond compensating the people of the Gulf in the short-term, it's also clear we need a long-term plan to restore the unique beauty and bounty of this region. The oil spill represents just the latest blow to a place that has already suffered multiple economic disasters and decades of environmental degradation that has led to disappearing wetlands and habitats. And the region still hasn't recovered from Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. That's why we must make a commitment to the Gulf Coast that goes beyond responding to the crisis of the moment.

I make that commitment tonight. Earlier, I asked Ray Mabus, the Secretary of the Navy, a former governor of Mississippi, and a son of the Gulf, to develop a long-term Gulf Coast Restoration Plan as soon as possible. The plan will be designed by states, local communities, tribes, fishermen, businesses, conservationists, and other Gulf residents. And BP will pay for the impact this spill has had on the region.

The third part of our response plan is the steps we're taking to ensure that a disaster like this does not happen again. A few months ago, I approved a proposal to consider new, limited offshore drilling under the assurance that it would be absolutely safe - that the proper technology would be in place and the necessary precautions would be taken.

That was obviously not the case on the Deepwater Horizon rig, and I want to know why. The American people deserve to know why. The families I met with last week who lost their loved ones in the explosion - these families deserve to know why. And so I have established a National Commission to understand the causes of this disaster and offer recommendations on what additional safety and environmental standards we need to put in place. Already, I have issued a six-month moratorium on deepwater drilling. I know this creates difficulty for the people who work on these rigs, but for the sake of their safety, and for the sake of the entire region, we need to know the facts before we allow deepwater drilling to continue. And while I urge the Commission to complete its work as quickly as possible, I expect them to do that work thoroughly and impartially.

One place we have already begun to take action is at the agency in charge of regulating drilling and issuing permits, known as the Minerals Management Service. Over the last decade, this agency has become emblematic of a failed philosophy that views all regulation with hostility - a philosophy that says corporations should be allowed to play by their own rules and police themselves. At this agency, industry insiders were put in charge of industry oversight. Oil companies showered regulators with gifts and favors, and were essentially allowed to conduct their own safety inspections and write their own regulations.

When Ken Salazar became my Secretary of the Interior, one of his very first acts was to clean up the worst of the corruption at this agency. But it's now clear that the problems there ran much deeper, and the pace of reform was just too slow. And so Secretary Salazar and I are bringing in new leadership at the agency - Michael Bromwich, who was a tough federal prosecutor and Inspector General. His charge over the next few months is to build an organization that acts as the oil industry's watchdog - not its partner.

One of the lessons we've learned from this spill is that we need better regulations better safety standards, and better enforcement when it comes to offshore drilling. But a larger lesson is that no matter how much we improve our regulation of the industry, drilling for oil these days entails greater risk. After all, oil is a finite resource. We consume more than 20% of the world's oil, but have less than 2% of the world's oil reserves. And that's part of the reason oil companies are drilling a mile beneath the surface of the ocean - because we're running out of places to drill on land and in shallow water.

For decades, we have known the days of cheap and easily accessible oil were numbered. For decades, we have talked and talked about the need to end America's century-long addiction to fossil fuels. And for decades, we have failed to act with the sense of urgency that this challenge requires. Time and again, the path forward has been blocked - not only by oil industry lobbyists, but also by a lack of political courage and candor.

The consequences of our inaction are now in plain sight. Countries like China are investing in clean energy jobs and industries that should be here in America. Each day, we send nearly $1 billion of our wealth to foreign countries for their oil. And today, as we look to the Gulf, we see an entire way of life being threatened by a menacing cloud of black crude.

We cannot consign our children to this future. The tragedy unfolding on our coast is the most painful and powerful reminder yet that the time to embrace a clean energy future is now. Now is the moment for this generation to embark on a national mission to unleash American innovation and seize control of our own destiny.

This is not some distant vision for America. The transition away from fossil fuels will take some time, but over the last year and a half, we have already taken unprecedented action to jumpstart the clean energy industry. As we speak, old factories are reopening to produce wind turbines, people are going back to work installing energy-efficient windows, and small businesses are making solar panels. Consumers are buying more efficient cars and trucks, and families are making their homes more energy-efficient. Scientists and researchers are discovering clean energy technologies that will someday lead to entire new industries.

Each of us has a part to play in a new future that will benefit all of us. As we recover from this recession, the transition to clean energy has the potential to grow our economy and create millions of good, middle-class jobs - but only if we accelerate that transition. Only if we seize the moment. And only if we rally together and act as one nation - workers and entrepreneurs; scientists and citizens; the public and private sectors.
When I was a candidate for this office, I laid out a set of principles that would move our country towards energy independence. Last year, the House of Representatives acted on these principles by passing a strong and comprehensive energy and climate bill - a bill that finally makes clean energy the profitable kind of energy for America's businesses.

Now, there are costs associated with this transition. And some believe we can't afford those costs right now. I say we can't afford not to change how we produce and use energy - because the long-term costs to our economy, our national security, and our environment are far greater.

So I am happy to look at other ideas and approaches from either party - as long they seriously tackle our addiction to fossil fuels. Some have suggested raising efficiency standards in our buildings like we did in our cars and trucks. Some believe we should set standards to ensure that more of our electricity comes from wind and solar power. Others wonder why the energy industry only spends a fraction of what the high-tech industry does on research and development - and want to rapidly boost our investments in such research and development.

All of these approaches have merit, and deserve a fear hearing in the months ahead. But the one approach I will not accept is inaction. The one answer I will not settle for is the idea that this challenge is too big and too difficult to meet. You see, the same thing was said about our ability to produce enough planes and tanks in World War II. The same thing was said about our ability to harness the science and technology to land a man safely on the surface of the moon. And yet, time and again, we have refused to settle for the paltry limits of conventional wisdom. Instead, what has defined us as a nation since our founding is our capacity to shape our destiny - our determination to fight for the America we want for our children. Even if we're unsure exactly what that looks like. Even if we don't yet know precisely how to get there. We know we'll get there.

It is a faith in the future that sustains us as a people. It is that same faith that sustains our neighbors in the Gulf right now.

Each year, at the beginning of shrimping season, the region's fishermen take part in a tradition that was brought to America long ago by fishing immigrants from Europe. It's called "The Blessing of the Fleet," and today it's a celebration where clergy from different religions gather to say a prayer for the safety and success of the men and women who will soon head out to sea - some for weeks at a time.

The ceremony goes on in good times and in bad. It took place after Katrina, and it took place a few weeks ago - at the beginning of the most difficult season these fishermen have ever faced.

And still, they came and they prayed. For as a priest and former fisherman once said of the tradition, "The blessing is not that God has promised to remove all obstacles and dangers. The blessing is that He is with us always," a blessing that's granted "...even in the midst of the storm."

The oil spill is not the last crisis America will face. This nation has known hard times before and we will surely know them again. What sees us through - what has always seen us through - is our strength, our resilience, and our unyielding faith that something better awaits us if we summon the courage to reach for it. Tonight, we pray for that courage. We pray for the people of the Gulf. And we pray that a hand may guide us through the storm towards a brighter day. Thank you, God Bless You, and may God Bless the United States of America.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2010/06/we_will_fight_this_spill_with.html

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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:52 AM
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38. It reads even worse than it was delivered.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:23 AM
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3. Pray.
Weak as water.

I'm not against people praying, btw. I just don't think it was effectively invoked in the case of this Oval Office address.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:24 AM
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5. Nor am I against people masturbating
Just please, in both cases, keep that shit behind closed doors
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:38 AM
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12. Pitch perfect response
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 02:19 AM
Response to Reply #12
28. yeah, but to the wrong reply, imho
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 05:33 AM
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33. Nope
I'm religious. Pagan to be exact but I don't pray or perform rituals in public. That's the job of the Christian Pharisees.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:07 AM
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46. not disagreeing
for one second!

just meant that, that reply, while perfect for the topic, was even more fitting for a particular earlier reply....a different form of masturbatory display
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 02:43 AM
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30. Doors open or closed, people don't need to be told to do either one.
They pretty much figure it out without presidential prodding.

Can you imaging the president saying, "Go have a wank. You'll all feel better afterwards."

;-)
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 04:01 AM
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32. Isn't that just what he did? n/t
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 06:06 AM
Response to Reply #30
35. Sounds more honest actually
At least you are guaranteed a happy ending that way
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:32 AM
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6. Faith-based "disaster management":
And yet, time and again, we have refused to settle for the paltry limits of conventional wisdom. Instead, what has defined us as a nation since our founding is our capacity to shape our destiny - our determination to fight for the America we want for our children. Even if we're unsure exactly what that looks like. Even if we don't yet know precisely how to get there. We know we'll get there.

It is a faith in the future that sustains us as a people. It is that same faith that sustains our neighbors in the Gulf right now.

Each year, at the beginning of shrimping season, the region's fishermen take part in a tradition that was brought to America long ago by fishing immigrants from Europe. It's called "The Blessing of the Fleet," and today it's a celebration where clergy from different religions gather to say a prayer for the safety and success of the men and women who will soon head out to sea - some for weeks at a time.

The ceremony goes on in good times and in bad. It took place after Katrina, and it took place a few weeks ago - at the beginning of the most difficult season these fishermen have ever faced.

And still, they came and they prayed. For as a priest and former fisherman once said of the tradition, "The blessing is not that God has promised to remove all obstacles and dangers. The blessing is that He is with us always," a blessing that's granted "...even in the midst of the storm."

The oil spill is not the last crisis America will face. This nation has known hard times before and we will surely know them again. What sees us through - what has always seen us through - is our strength, our resilience, and our unyielding faith that something better awaits us if we summon the courage to reach for it. Tonight, we pray for that courage. We pray for the people of the Gulf. And we pray that a hand may guide us through the storm towards a brighter day. Thank you, God Bless You, and may God Bless the United States of America.


Pretty incredible.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:34 AM
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8. Shhhh...!
You'll disturb the people who think there's a plan!
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:53 AM
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20. Jesus.
Oh, wait.

Shit, I VOTED for this guy???
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:36 AM
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9. Coming straight from the newly created Office of Faith-Based Initiatives.
Unreal.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:38 AM
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10. Yep. No room for prayer. No room for anything but gloom, doom and dispair.....
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 01:40 AM by FrenchieCat
the President is a Christian, and most of those on the Gulf watching their lives be changed forever are too. It was the last part of his speech, and it was based on conversations he's had with those on the Gulf. But I guess that freedom of religion means that one is not allowed to bring up Faith and prayer in a speech, and that this is seen as a crime. Guess that's what being liberal means, hey? Prayer haters. Is that really better than the other side? Good to know that Prayers are not allowed in the case of a fucking disaster that is yet to be over!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:42 AM
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14. Well, I am sorry, but I don't think God is going to fix this mess.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:57 AM
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22. That whole "not existing" thing really hampers his effectiveness.
A shame, really.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:48 AM
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17. "most on the Gulf...are Christian" oh, so Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, Hindis, etc... don't count, huh
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 01:49 AM by amborin
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:58 AM
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23.  My my how GOPish. Sorry. That could have come from a minister and that was over the line.
God Bless America was fine. Even the gulf will be in my prayers but this was over the top. Sorry. I didn't think it was that bad when I just read it but when I heard it, ugh. I don't know WHY any American pols do this. Europeans don't.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 03:55 AM
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31. Injecting a note of reality here.
My mother is about as neo-con as you can get, yet even she believes in taking an injured child to the ER rather than sitting down and praying over them.

Prayer is not a plan. All I wanted was a plan. I didn't think that was too much to expect.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 09:02 AM
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41. Isn't he suppsed to represent ALL of us?
Not just the ones that know the same prayers? What about the ones that don't pray at all?

Frenchie, yours was a petty response. I KNOW you can do better.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 09:25 AM
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44. What bullshit.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:39 AM
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47. Where did anyone say he should be arrested?
I saw some people who did not care for the prayer stuff.

I didn't either.

Nothing about a "crime"..... ????:shrug:
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:38 AM
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11. pretty scary, too; it's like something from The Onion
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:34 AM
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7. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 09:24 AM
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43. Can the guiding hand of god plug the leak?
:rofl:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:41 AM
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13. This is what happens...
...when a Presidential candidate takes loads of money from an oil company,
and then that company royally farks up. The oil company says...just let
us do our thing...we'll have this fixed in no time and remember we own you.

Then, slowly--the President realizes that it's not going to be fixed and
that playing ball in this Fascist game isn't going to make himself look
so hot. Playing "hands off" with the powerful corporations just isn't going
to fly while the ocean is being destroyed.

This is what friggin happens.

When, Mr. President, will you realize that these corporate neocon Fascists
are not your friends and that you will always lose when you play their
game? They despise you and care only about their money and power.

Break up the game. It's the only way. Otherwise, they sink you--every time.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:49 AM
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19. CORRECT
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:01 PM
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53. He knew what brung him to the dance...

Any President of the United States is by definition a corporate shill. The business of America is business.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:42 AM
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15. Jumping the shark, indeed
This article is horse shit.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:55 AM
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21. the speech was scary! all that Christian talk! Vietnamese fishermen can go jump in the Gulf,
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 01:57 AM by amborin
they, along with all the Hindis, Jews, Muslims, etc.....who live in the Gulf region, were ignored; and the speech was weak, ineffective dribble
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 02:03 AM
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26. So what were you expecting?


Hmmm, no, still too Christian.



Getting closer!

:eyes:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:49 AM
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18. lame speech
found it very blah. blablablablabla
no kick ass
tryin too hard to make nice nice with repukes and corporations alike.
why did he bother?
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:58 AM
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24. He sounded tired and drained. The words also sounded tired and drained.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 02:00 AM
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25. He also looks like he is losing weight, something he can't afford to do.Must be the stress.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 09:14 AM
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42. I agree & let's remember what BushCo left O to deal with
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 09:15 AM by wordpix
Two wars, a financial crisis, housing/mortgage crisis and huge job losses across the country, Guantanamo and torture, hatred for US around the world, Justice and Interior Departments (and more I'm sure) full of corporate pro-oil, anti-environment, RW nut fundie elements...I feel sorry for Obama at this point. He is not handling this blowout situation as an effective commander-in-chief but not many could, given the big pile of shit left him by Smirk & Co. O has to handle a lot more than just this disaster---please try to have some empathy. :hug:

If we relate O's decision making to our own decisions, it helps. For example, I currently have to make a major decision affecting both me and my sick, elderly mother. I try to look at all aspects of this decision, pro, con, financial, non financial, for her and me. I feel stuck b/c there's no good or easy answer. One way has larger financial implications; another way impacts my job; another way impacts the help I provide. This is such a big decision---but if I screw up, I only impact her and me. That is paltry compared with what O has to deal with every day. Think of your own major decisions and then think of the burden O has, making decisions that affect the entire nation every day.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 02:03 AM
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27. Can we be realistic yet?
You and "your" President are totally beholden to big oil. Not only that, but he people in big oil stand behind a facade, a fiction, a thin but currently impenetrable corporate veil. The players are not effected, only the ghost that you are encouraged to box with. Who wins that kind of match?

Your very lifestyle, as you know it, has been aided and abetted by big oil and its power, influence, and rewards are supported by how you live right now, no matter how green you consider yourself if you are not living like the Amish or even more primative. Check into just what you can do or have without OIL, right now.

Knowing the very facts of the predicament we so passively bought our own ways into, assured that the future was progressive and bright and just a quick, Karma-less techno-fix away, how could you ever expect your corporately approved, titular head to give you anything other than a manicured, well-written, professional speech that would include no corporate veil-piecring invectives or acts of truly sustainable war on the real culprits who hold our media-laden masses in their grips?

Get with the program and you know what? The more you know and understand, as difficult and unfathomable as it may seem to do so, the less easy and simple the crap that the game board owners, (on which you are merely their playing piece) will be. Hey! Didja' know that oil is the very lifeblood of your existence as you know it right now? Yeah. Fact. Find one thing in your life that had nothing to do with it and you will get a shiney, new sustainablity medal.

Let's do what we have to. That is, we find ourselves in a corporate mono-culture that has mature technology that is being controlled and used by a virtually adolescent mentality. We have not matured or evolved, collectively, enough to safely and reasonably use what we have in a balanced and harmonious way, yet. We could, but not within the current magic spell that is so easily cast upon the masses who act as if it is not and that any truth or personal empowerment is conveyed by powerful, congealed, corporately owned media that only serves to move us towards an emulation, times ten, of the days when Feudal Lords ruled over their powerless Serfs.

Just know you are simply considered to be livestock and then act, with certainty, with the knowledge that you are not.
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ConservativeDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 12:29 PM
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52. Sure.... let's be realistic
"You and "your" President are totally beholden to big oil."

Support for offshore drilling has plunged to a mere substantial majority, rather than an overwhelming majority as it was before.

In Louisiana, it's down to a mere 77% who support it (12% opposed)! http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/poll-louisiana-loves-bobby-jindal----and-offshore-drilling.php

How dare the President of the United States actually take into consideration what a majority of citizens of the United States want!


As Pogo so eloquently put it nearly a century ago, "We have met the enemy, and he is us." But it's so much easier to blame politicians, for gently trying to wean the public away from poor policy decisions, rather than the people who support their policies, isn't it?

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

p.s. Do you drive a car, pal? You know, a lot of Americans do. And they like it.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 02:28 AM
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29. BS
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 05:59 AM
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34. Considering that all that blogger does is bash Obama, how can he say Obama "jumped the shark"?
Every post of his is declaring Obama a failure.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 07:45 AM
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36. Folks down here were really hoping to hear a lot more.
This lack of a comprehensive, forceful containment/mitigation plan/strategy is very disappointing and will devastate my fellow citizens.
Oil continues to penetrate the marsh, is 20 miles in already, with no end in sight.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:48 AM
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37. sorry..so very sorry..nt
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:54 AM
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39. i can't even imagine what it must be like for you.
you're being fucked by BP, now by our government, and it's being led on by the cheers of people who believe there is a plan.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 09:41 AM
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45. It was an abysmal speech in my opinion. nt.
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 09:41 AM by Hosnon
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 12:02 PM
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48. That speech made me queasy.
Because, even though it was coated in can do, hopeful imagery, it basically came down to, 'things are going to get much worse...pray that the relief wells will stop this'.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 12:04 PM
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49. K&R
This faith-based politics is really pissing me off. Instead of praying it all away, how about he actually do something about it?
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 12:26 PM
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50. Although I did read the entire speech, there was one line that made me almost stop without reading
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 12:32 PM by TheWatcher
further.

Abroad, our brave men and women in uniform are taking the fight to al Qaeda wherever it exists.

Seriously, Mr. President, enough with the Fake War On Terror crap. The reasons Bush's Wars, now YOUR Wars, were started and continued, and the reasons that you have expanded Afghanistan, have very little to do with this Mythical band Of Baddies and Cave Dwellers.

Please, at long last, just STOP.

Much like Bush never missed a chance to invoke 9/11 in ANY opportunity, this was just out of place, and unnecessary.

As for the rest of your speech, Thank You for the pretty words and gestures, as usual, but it is your actions I will be paying attention to.
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