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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 09:33 PM
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California’s Prop 19: A Word-for-Word Analysis
Read this informed piece before you make a discussion on Proposition 19 in California. There is a huge disinformation campaign right now on blogs, press, discussion boards and the media in general, don't be fooled into voting for oppression.

If you use cannabis, if you do not, please, take the time to be informed from a trusted source.



From Norml-

I’ve spent the weekend reading various blogs that have sprouted up in opposition to Proposition 19, California’s effort to legalize marijuana this November. These “Stoners Against Legalization” blogs confound me; they remind me of Sam Kinison’s line comparing “Rock Against Drugs” to “Christians Against Christ”.

Some of these blogs are based on the notion that legalization would be worse than “what we have now”. The assumption there is that if you smoke marijuana in California, you must already have your Prop 215 recommendation from a doctor, and you’d be losing your rights under Prop 19.

Most marijuana smokers, believe it or not, are healthy and aren’t comfortable spending money for a doctor to give them permission to use cannabis. Currently we face a ticket, fine, and misdemeanor drug conviction record for possession an ounce or less of cannabis. That record prevents us from getting student aid and can cost us our jobs, child custody, and housing, or if we’re on probation, our freedom. (Even if California succeeds at downgrading possession to an infraction from a misdemeanor, a $100 ticket is a lot of money to some people!) We face a felony charge if we grow even one plant at home. For us, Prop 19 is much better than “what we have now”.

Another thing that appears in some of these blogs is outright misinformation, such as talk of a $50/ounce state tax (it’s not in the initiative; that was Ammiano’s bill) or that it would supersede Prop 215 (it wouldn’t, and Prop 19 even references Prop 215 in its language, so it couldn’t). Others play up the “millionaires”, “big corporations”, and “monopolies” that would be created and the earnest Emerald Triangle family growers who’d be put out of business (which amuses me: Prop 19 allows localities to regulate sales, so why wouldn’t Humboldt, Trinity, and Mendocino county residents whose economy depends on pot sales lobby really hard to get legalized pot sales OK’d in those counties and cities within, and regulated in a way that protects the small grower?)

http://blog.norml.org/2010/07/19/californias-prop-19-a-word-for-word-analysis/
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 09:40 PM
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1. k & r
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:00 PM
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2. Thanks Starry Messenger!
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:31 PM
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3. My pleasure asdjrocky!
I can't believe this isn't getting more recs. Was there an event in CA tonight we forgot? :D Everyone out in their dancing shoes?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:05 AM
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4. kick
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:18 AM
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5. kick for YES on Prop 19 n/t
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:36 AM
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7. .
:hi:
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:59 AM
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8. here's a linky for you
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:06 AM
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6. I cannot wait to vote yes!
We are waaaaaaay overdue to decriminalize marijuana possession/use.

Let's get this drug out of the hands of the drug lords, NOW.

Highly recommended!

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:01 PM
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9. Thank you Peggy!
:hi:
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:55 PM
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10. night crew kick n/t
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BakedAtAMileHigh Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:56 PM
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11. Excuse me while I light my spliff...
....and give this one a big kick. Tonight it's Strawberry Cough and maybe a bit of Space Queen before bed!
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:08 PM
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12. Wow. Sounds familiar...
"Others play up the “millionaires”, “big corporations”, and “monopolies” that would be created and the earnest Emerald Triangle family growers who’d be put out of business"

I've seen this one in just the past couple of days right here on DU more than once.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:13 PM
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13. I likie this part:
"Even under Prop 215, the adult cannabis consumer is guilty of being a criminal unless proven innocent as a patient. When Prop 19 passes, the adult cannabis consumer is considered innocent until proven guilty. It is a complete game changer for law enforcement, because:

•the smell of marijuana on your person is no longer probable cause to search you;
•that joint in your pocket means nothing;
•the seizure of stems, leaves, and seeds from your trash is irrelevant;
•a couple of baggies with weed residue in them are just garbage;
•the sight of that bong on your table visible through the kitchen window isn’t a “welcome” mat for a police search;
•your utility bills raising a bit for water and lights don’t matter;
•your neighbors smelling skunky plants is just a nuisance, not the source for an “anonymous tip”;
•receipts for lights, soil, fertilizer, ballasts, trimmers, and stuff are meaningless;
•infrared signatures of your home aren’t evidence of anything;
•marijuana sniffing K-9 units are out of a job; and
•pre-employment drug testing programs become harder for businesses to maintain for cannabis."
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BakedAtAMileHigh Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:22 PM
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14. the change to employment drug testing alone is huge!
Ever heard of Carlton Turner? He was Reagan's Drug Czar. Among other things he claimed marijuana use caused homosexuality and HIV/AIDS and engineered the spraying of Mexican cannabis crops with Paraquat, a deadly poison. After his stint as a federal Drug Warrior, Turner sold phoney "paraquat testing kits" to gullible teenagers worried their cannabis might actually be as deadly as tobacco.

After he left Washington, he created a employment urinalysis business that got a huge bump when Nancy mandated drug testing for all federal employees. This asshat essentially created the piss-test business model: I am glad to see that level of intrusion and harassment take a good solid legal hit.
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