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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:20 PM
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Since wikileaks is not US based, the "unpatriotic" charge doesn't work
I am very pleased about this wikileaks, and was thinking what one of the typical defenses/responses would be. Then it came to me - "How unpatriotic!" or "You must hate the troops you traitor!"

But unfortunately for those who would try this, it simply falls flat on its face, as wikileaks is international based and the director is Australian. Kind of hard to be labeled unpatriotic when you aren't even from the United States in the first place, lol.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:22 PM
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1. I just wonder how fox news is going to ignore/spin/mutilate this story?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:22 PM
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2. That can be played both ways. A foreign entity is releasing our secrets.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:29 PM
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3. Those documents came from SOMEONE inside the military.
That is what is unpatriotic. The actions of whoever supplied the info.
I have a feeling if they get caught then they'll get raked over the coals.

Wikileaks is just reporting what was given to them. They're just doing their thing.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:43 PM
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6. He will die in federal prison.
he is done.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:11 PM
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7. He has stated he will willingly go to prison or even to his death
because he felt so strongly this information needed to get out to the American public. The Taliban already knows it and so do the troops. It is the American people that have been lied to for almost a decade now about what is actually going on..
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:18 PM
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9. is ellsberg a mad at the army little bitch too?
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:25 PM
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10. HE he was an Officer who released a report, not raw cables.
A quick review of " A Bright and Shining Lie" would be in order. Please dont compare a guy who wanted to get back at the army, a little bitch of a child trying to impress people to a career officer who sacrificed his career in a very calculated and controlled manner.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:14 AM
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15. Ellsberg took responsibility for a deliberate act of conscience

What has the source of these documents said about his motivation?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 11:16 PM
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13. Have they found him yet?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:36 PM
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4. Can you be labeled as unpatriotic for being pleased?
I'm not suggesting that. It sounds like you believe it would be unpatriotic to release the files had Sange been an American citizen.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:43 PM
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5. Gerald Bull learned that some things
are capable of making governments kill you. I would assume this person and those assisting him are aware that they are subject to the same fate. That is a non lol moment.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:27 PM
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11. Ooooo you talk tough.
How so very macho. I bet your jaw is 50% wider than the rest of your head, :eyes:
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 05:30 PM
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12. Right now I bet the guy who dumped those docs is realizing
he will never leave federal prison. Florence ADX or some place with no tv and no sunlight is in his future. I would personally hang myself before I lived my life out ad Florence.

As for the guy hosting them, well thats his call. Obviously the content does not warrant actions.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:35 AM
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16. He does that a lot. It's pretty funny.
:)
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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 11:45 PM
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14. What I don't get is why its bad to be unpatriotic, being patriotic puts real estate above principles
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