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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 11:51 AM
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Medical personnel,et al..help me reply to recent editorial re medicare/medicaid
Edited on Tue Aug-03-10 12:29 PM by w8liftinglady
I find this extraordinarily offensive-and would like to post a sincere rebuttal.i am a member of Physicians for a National Health Plan,and may forward it to them as well.


http://www.thedailylight.com/articles/2010/08/03/opinion/doc4c583f2c4f81e103728261.txt

Why the government cannot control medical costs
Published: Tuesday, August 3, 2010 11:09 AM CDT
Dr. Alieta Eck
aapsonline

From the patients in my office we can learn why Medicare and Medicaid cannot control costs. Neither the President, the Congress, nor learned journals are telling these stories.

A spry, cheerful patient told me that she had fainted under the hair dryer in her beauty salon. The rescue squad rushed her to the emergency room of the nearest hospital. On the way, she was alert and speaking clearly with no weakness of her arms or legs. She told the rescuers that this had happened once before a few years ago.

All indications pointed to a simple fainting spell. Maybe she was dehydrated. The warmth from the hair dryer probably caused blood vessels to dilate and her blood pressure to drop.

Nevertheless, she spent three days in the hospital with EKG monitoring, and underwent a CT scan, an MRI, an EEG, and endless blood tests— all normal. Several specialists were called in for this “complicated” case. Finally, the patient insisted on going home even though some advised her to stay a little longer. She commented on how she probably would never have even been admitted had she not been covered by Medicare. And Medicare (working people and their as-yet-unborn grandchildren) will probably pay more than $20,000.

A television commercial states, “Last year, 9 out of 10 people got their Hoveround for little or no money.” A perfectly healthy appearing actress, sitting in her fancy scooter, folding her wash, says, “With Medicare and my insurance, I paid nothing out of pocket.” Those commercials ignore the fact that someone is paying for those expensive scooters— just not the actual users.

In a free clinic, one patient told me she preferred the brand name to the much lower cost generic. “Why?” I asked. “My friend told me the brand name is better.” Her prescriptions are covered by Medicaid, so all her medicines are paid for by someone else. I respectfully declined to write, “brand medically necessary,” and explained that although the medicine was free to her, the state of New Jersey is out of money and the generic will probably work just as well.

Are these patients or their physicians committing fraud? No. They are simply acting legally to enhance their own well-being, following the incentives set up by the unwieldy system. People with “coverage” do not care what costs they incur, and those who provide services benefit by providing more. As with the oil rig in the Gulf, there is a lot of pressure behind the leak. Adding more pressure —as with the Democrats’ idea of saving money by covering everybody—is not the answer. It can only make things worse.

We have in fact already tried it-- in Massachusetts. The one-state version of ObamaCare functions only because of heavy federal subsidies. Massachusetts has tried to limit fees, and still the state is hemorrhaging cash. Massachusetts Medicaid went from $1 billion to $1.75 billion in four short years and the federal government—actually the taxpayers from the other 49 states— subsidized half that increase.

Will it take a bomb to stop the leak before we are smothered in oil or debt that our grandchildren will never be able to repay? What will be the result of the looming 21 percent cut in Medicare payments to physicians?

Doctors who have been accepting steadily diminishing payments to care for the elderly are increasingly bolting out of the system. Savvy Medicare recipients will continue to secure their free Hoverounds, but the weaker, more confused, sicker, and more vulnerable will find that fewer physicians will be able to care for them. Once the nation is bankrupt, hospitals have closed, and physicians have found alternate ways to earn a living, real medical needs will not be met. The best medical care in the world will simply cease to exist. Then all Americans, young and old, will feel the pain.

There is a better answer, pointed out by Rep. Ron Paul, M.D. (R-TX):

“We need a system in America where patients pay cash for basic services, and carry insurance only for serious illnesses and accidents. ‘Health maintenance’ is the responsibility of each of us individually. We cannot continue to collectivize the costs of healthcare and expect things to get better.”

Column from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, Inc. (www.aapsonline.org). Dr. Alieta Eck, MD graduated from the Rutgers College of Pharmacy in NJ and the St. Louis School of Medicine in St. Louis, Mo.. She studied Internal Medicine at Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital in New Brunswick, N.J. and has been in private practice with her husband, Dr. John Eck, MD in Piscataway, N.J. since 1988. She has been involved in health care reform since residency and is convinced that the government is a poor provider of medical care. She testified before the Joint Economic Committee of the U.S. Congress in 2004 about better ways to deliver health care in the United States. In 2003, she and her husband founded the Zarephath Health Center, a free clinic for the poor and uninsured that currently cares for 300-400 patients per month utilizing the donated services of volunteer physicians and nurses.

Dr. Eck is a long time member of the Christian Medical Dental Association and in 2009 joined the board of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. In addition, she serves on the advisory board of Christian Care Medi-Share, a faith based medical cost sharing Ministry. She is a member of Zarephath Christian Church and she and her husband have five children, one in medical school in NJ.

Contact Dr. Eck at: eckmds@gmail.com, 732-463-0303 http://www.aapsonline.org/




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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 12:03 PM
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1. this is the part that truly disturbed me
"There is a better answer, pointed out by Rep. Ron Paul, M.D. (R-TX):

“We need a system in America where patients pay cash for basic services, and carry insurance only for serious illnesses and accidents. ‘Health maintenance’ is the responsibility of each of us individually. We cannot continue to collectivize the costs of healthcare and expect things to get better.”

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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 12:27 PM
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2. and-holy shit-American Association of Physicians and Surgeons
http://www.aapsonline.org/

http://www.aapsonline.org/hhslawsuit/

Talking Points, AAPS Sues in D.C. to Overturn the Health Care Bill
Posted on March 29, 2010 by admin
The Association of American Physicians & Surgeons (“AAPS”) sued on March 26th to invalidate the massive health care bill, which passed the House by only 4 votes on a party-line vote (with 34 Democrats voting against it). Forcing patients to buy insurance that may not even cover the care they need is wrong for patients, physicians, and our nation, and is unconstitutional.
If this health care bill remains law, then it will:

■Subject physicians to the greater control of insurance company oversight
■Deter innovation by physicians because insurance companies won’t allow it
■Impoverish patients by forcing them to pay for expensive insurance they may not use
■Enrich insurance companies at the expense of patients and physicians
■Eliminate the growing market of self-paying patients
■Bankrupt government programs and potentially lead to a government takeover
■Cause many physicians to stop practicing, leading to shortages and long waiting lines
AAPS welcomes other medical societies to join its lawsuit. This lawsuit declares that:

•Forcing people to pay money to insurance companies is unconstitutional under the Fifth and Tenth Amendments, the Commerce Clause, and the authority to tax
•Forcing physicians to buy low-deductible, non-HSA-based insurance for their employees is likewise unconstitutional
•Forcing patients to participate in Medicare Part A, at the risk of losing their Social Security benefits, is unconstitutional and harms physicians who operate surgery centers outside of Medicare
•Compelling a full accounting of the insolvency of the Medicare program is necessaryContact AAPS if you are interesting in joining this precedent-setting lawsuit, which was filed in federal court in D.C. The General Counsel for AAPS is Andy Schlafly, and he can be reached at aschlafly@aol.com or 908-719-8608.
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 12:36 PM
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6. The AAPS
is a right wing political group, not a medical group.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 12:41 PM
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7. AHHHH.Thank you for clarifying that.
I have forwarded this to the Texas association for a National Health Plan,and will forward it to the Physicians as well...
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Roselma Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 12:30 PM
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3. not an answer to your
need for a reply, but the writer of that screed is a member of this:

http://www.aapsonline.org/

The agenda is quite clear.

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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 12:34 PM
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4. The first example is false
1) I don't believe her. There is no way that workup was done w/o some suspicion beyond dehydration. Because....

2) Hospitals are paid a set fee per admission based on the admitting diagnosis (for Medicare & Medicaid). They have every incentive in the world to perform as few tests as possible, and discharge as soon as the patient is able.

As for the HoverRound -- some physician is signing off on that due to medical necessity. The same doctors that are yelling about this also are the ones throwing up death panels and "government practicing healthcare" when controls are put into place.

As for Medicaid paying for brand name drugs, I don't know what state she is in, but in most states Medicaid won't pay for a brand name if a generic is available. That being said, there is more they could do (like private insurance companies already do) in encouraging doctors to prescribe generics as first line treatment when applicable.

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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 12:35 PM
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5. self delete
Edited on Tue Aug-03-10 12:36 PM by Sgent
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 01:01 PM
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8. a little bit dated....but,why doesn't the good doc mention this?
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/drugs/2005-04-25-drug-lobby-cover_x.htm

Drugmakers go furthest to sway Congress
By Jim Drinkard, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — When Sen. Bill Frist needed help in November for a quick tour celebrating the victories of newly elected Republican senators, he didn't have to look far. A Gulfstream corporate jet owned by drugmaker Schering-Plough was ready to zip the Senate majority leader to stops in Florida, Georgia and the Carolinas.

...more at site...
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 01:57 PM
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9. kicking-i sent a copy to ama and pnhp
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