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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:11 PM
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DN: "The Crime of the Century: What BP and US Government Don’t Want You to Know"
Environmental activist Jerry Cope has spent the last few weeks traveling along the Gulf Coast and experiencing firsthand the contamination in the air and water. In an article being published on Huffington Post, Cope argues that instead of celebrating the allegedly vanishing oil, we should be concerned about the disappearance of marine life in the Gulf. He describes the Gulf as a "kill zone" and looks into where the marine animals have gone, given that BP has reported a relatively low number of dead animals from the spill.

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JERRY COPE: Well, a friend of mine, Charles Hambleton, and I came down about three weeks ago. We’ve been hearing a lot of stories. People were calling both of us regarding the loss of marine life and that there was a tremendous cover-up operation in place to conceal this from the public and the media. And this was at the same time where a lot of, you know, mainstream media were complaining about restricted access, that they couldn’t get onto the beaches, they weren’t allowed to fly. So these calls kept coming in.

We finally decided three weeks ago to come down and see for ourselves what the situation was, and we went from Louisiana all the way to Florida, spent a great deal of time around Orange Beach and Gulf Shores, Alabama, which tends—is kind of like ground zero in this whole mess, in terms of especially the effects of the dispersant. There’s a great many people there that are sick and ill. The doctors aren’t really sure how to treat them. Dr. Riki Ott’s been down, spending a lot of time with those folks. Myself, I have a pneumonia induced by chemical exposure. I’ve been talking to doctors in Boston.

But the—we talked to numerous fishermen and local people, and there was, in fact, a very large-scale operation with BP, assisted by several federal agencies, to cover up the loss of marine life. They gathered up the fish, birds, whales, dolphins, all the sea life, and the carcasses were destroyed, in very large numbers.

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RIKI OTT: We also know from Exxon Valdez that only one percent, in our case, of the carcasses that floated off to sea actually made landfall in the Gulf of Alaska. I don’t believe there’s been any carcass drift studies down here that would give us some indication of when something does wash up on the beach, what percentage is it of the whole. But anyway, we know that offshore there was an attempt by BP and the government to keep the animals from coming onshore in great numbers. And the excuse was, this is a health problem, we don’t want to create a health hazard. And that will only be a good excuse if they kept tallies of all the numbers that died, because all the numbers, all the animals, are evidence for federal court. We, the people, own these animals, and they become evidence for damages to charge for BP. In Exxon Valdez, the carcasses were kept under triple lock-and-key security until the Natural Resource Damage Assessment study was completed. And that was in about a year and a half—two-and-a-half years after the spill. And then, all the animals were burned, but not until then.

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ANTONIA JUHASZ: Yeah. St. Mary’s Parish is one bayou over from Venice Beach area, which is the focus of a lot of the coverage of where the oil has been coming ashore and where a lot of the oil impact has been. So it’s one bayou over. And I went down there to attend a BP community forum that was held Thursday night. And at this forum, the parish president announced that St. Mary’s Parish doesn’t have oil, has never had oil, and won’t have oil hitting its shores. As soon as he said that, he was immediately surrounded by fishermen. And one of the fishermen said, "Well, if that’s true, then why does Kermit have oil in his bag right now?" And one of the fishermen, everyone turned to him, and he said, "You know, I was just out on the water, like I’ve been every day, looking for oil, and I saw oil, and I’ve seen oil. And we’ve been telling you that there’s oil." At that point, the microphone was turned off, and, you know, essentially all hell broke loose. And the Coast Guard, which was there, went over to this fisherman and said, you know, "If you saw oil, show us where you saw the oil." And they went over and they looked at maps, and he showed them where the oil was. And they were very concerned.

And then I, the next day, went out with him, and we spent five hours going along the coast of Oyster Bayou to Taylor Bayou in his boat, and what I saw was oil, waves of oil that had washed in. They had clearly washed in, because it was—you could see the wave effect. It was over the wetlands, grass, grassy areas, just coated in waves of oil that had hit. We went to beaches that were covered with tar balls. And, you know, this is not an unusual sight. Anyone who’s been watching TV has seen these sights. What was completely unusual, in my experience over three months of time going down to the Gulf, is that there was no one around. There were no cleanup workers. There was no boom. There was no evidence that anyone had any concern about this oil. And, in fact, that’s what we found out, that the Coast Guard then reported, after it went and looked at these locations, that it wasn’t enough to worry about. And that didn’t make any sense to the fishermen who I spoke to and the fisherman I was with, who said, "One, this is oil that is in and around where we live, where we fish, at the heart of our livelihood, which is this Oyster Bayou. And also, this is oil coating"—and I saw it—"the marshlands, the wetlands," which is, you know, when the oil gets into the grass, if it stays there, it can kill the root system. If it kills the root system, it kills the wetlands. If it kills the wetlands, there’s no barrier to, one, the oil getting further in and, two, more importantly in this area, hurricane provision and hurricane protection.

And this is also completely out of whack with what BP had been doing previously, in my experience, which is, wherever you saw oil, there wasn’t far behind a BP cleanup crew that would clean it up. Of course, the oil would just wash back on, and then they’d come back and they’d clean it up again. What is astounding, from my experience, is that it is evidence of what we’re hearing and seeing all across the Gulf, which is the cleanup apparatus being pulled away and removed. And the reason to do that is just as these—the press reports are saying, if the oil is out of sight, it’s out of mind. We know it’s out of sight, primarily, one, because the well is capped—thank goodness—but two, that it’s been dispersed. It’s been dispersed, and we can’t see it. And if BP can pull up its cleanup crews and show that everything is OK, the idea is that it would significantly limit the potential liability that BP faces. If it can say about the oil-soaked areas that I saw, "Oh, that’s insignificant," then they’re not liable for cleanup, not liable for the consequences to that community—at least, I imagine that’s what they would argue—in St. Mary’s Parish. Of course, they should be, and are, but that seems to be the logic, and it’s devastating to see it taking shape on the ground.

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http://www.democracynow.org/2010/8/4/environmental_activist_jerry_cope_on_the

But you see, in the media it's all happy news. And by the time independent scientists complete their studies, the klieg lights will have all moved on to the next story.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:12 PM
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1. Kicked fand recommended.
Thanks for the thread, Junkdrawer.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:15 PM
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2. our media is not set up to revisit events once they have deemed the 'over'
i fear this story will be quickly swept under the rug
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:18 PM
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4. You don't have to be right - you just have to flood your message for a few days....
I've seen it over and over again.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:26 PM
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8. And I'll be flooding mine here. I'm already being ignored regarding the availabiltiy
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 03:27 PM by Subdivisions
of the scientific data that was used to generate today's report - even over the phone to NOAA headquarters.

Ed to correct sp. of 'hear' in subject.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 12:51 AM
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20. Wish it was possible to rec your topic more than once
And to offset the un'recs as well.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:25 PM
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7. You're about to be mercilessly attacked and called a liar. We're supposed
to believe without question whatever we're told. Don't you know that?

Accept today's WH report on faith. Apparently data is not necessary in reaching the conclusion of this disaster that wasn't.

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 01:33 AM
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23. I too have been called a liar here when I reported the horrific air we were subjected to breathe on
Edited on Thu Aug-05-10 01:34 AM by flyarm
the Gulf.

All I can say is , today it is our air , tommorrow it will be yours!

How many will get all sorts of cancers from this disaster? When will we know? What will it eventually be blamed on or covered up as ? Will it be you that gets the cancers? Or your children?

People better think vey hard about that when they call those of us on the Gulf liars, and when they look into the faces of their children!

Will people then make excuses for this administration and this horrific cover up and manipulation of we the people?

Look in your childs face ..and see the future..and know we are all responsible for those children and what they are breathing!

All of us!

Ignore this at your children's peril..and your own health as well.

The fall out of this has been reported by scientists of it possibly getting into the atmosphere and will travel to the Rocky Mountains or further!

It will be decades before this is "OVER"..perhaps longer.

These Toxins will know no state borders.

It will enter the Food chain..count on that!

If the air you breathe doesn't get you, the food will.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 07:23 AM
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25. A substantial amount of that oil evaporated, to fall as benzene and acid rain many miles away.
Edited on Thu Aug-05-10 07:28 AM by leveymg
In mid-July, NOAA detected very high concentrations of aromatic hydrocarbons that had evaporated and wafted onshore over American coastal cities. These hydrocarbon clouds contained large percentages of evaporated benzene, a well-known carcinogen, and other toxic chemicals that were inhaled and fell to earth as benzene rain. Yet, the national media virtually ignored these findings.

It takes years for the worst health effects of chemical exposure, such as cancers, to manifest. But, they surely will. The American people will be paying for this long after BP's paltry cleanup fund runs out. The only thing to do is impose a fine under the Oil Pollution Act -- $3000/bbl for 50 million barrel discharge ($150 billion) -- that is big enough to effectively take over BP's assets and profits, and put these towards a public fund for long-term environmental abatement, economic compensation, and payment of eventual medical care costs, which are going to be immense.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:16 PM
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3. k&r
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:23 PM
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5. k&r

The government dances to Capital's tune, no surprise there. But I got to say, this is beyond the pall.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:25 PM
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6. K&R
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:27 PM
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9. K&R. nt
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Spheric Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:28 PM
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10. K&R for exposure. Needs to be read. /nt
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 11:36 PM
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28. Another kick. (nt)
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:30 PM
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11. Here's another chillingly frightful tale from DN...
JERRY COPE: "Well, there were two dramatic sequences that were described by workers that were out at the source, which is what they called the Canyon 252 site where this incident occurred. And they reported seeing, just as far as the eye could see, dead carcasses of all kinds of marine life out near the source. And then there was also—we heard numerous accounts of a large wave of marine life being pushed into shore as the dispersant and the oil, the first wave, came in and approached towards the end of June. And then, all of a sudden, it was simply gone. All of these animals disappeared. They didn’t show up in the lagoons in any large numbers. And everyone—all the scientists were questioning, where did they go?


I spoke to Hal Whitehead, who studied extensively sperm whales, specifically, the ones down in the Gulf of Mexico, and there was an unusual pod that was resident in the area of the Mississippi Canyon site, and they’ve also disappeared, the entire pod. And that was an unusual social structure there in that those particular sperm whales were not terribly nomadic. They seemed to stay there, as well as the usual whales that moved in and out with the population. "


http://www.democracynow.org/2010/8/4/environmental_activist_jerry_cope_on_the

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LargeGreenSpider Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:33 PM
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12. K & R
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:24 PM
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13. Kick
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:41 PM
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14. 'No photos"
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:46 PM
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15. Horrible...
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 07:21 PM
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16. K & R nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 07:27 PM
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17. Go, Amy!
:applause:
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 12:07 AM
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18. k&r n/t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 12:46 AM
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19. K&R
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 12:51 AM
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21. K&R! //nt
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 01:00 AM
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22. K&R
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 01:40 AM
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 02:01 PM
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26. Huge K & R-this thread should be at the top of the greatest page!
For shame anyone who unrecced this thread. :thumbsdown:

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 02:16 PM
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27. Kick
Edited on Thu Aug-05-10 02:19 PM by Kurovski
"There’s a great many people there that are sick and ill. The doctors aren’t really sure how to treat them."

It's most likely Environmental Illness, or the less accurately named "Multiple Chemical Sensitivities", same problem.

It's The most loathed health disorder of any polluting, toxic-producing corporation, and their corporate apologists. It is fought against tooth and nail, often blaming the results of poisoning on the victim's attitude toward the assault. IE, "it's all in their head."

I understand they were calling it TILT for a while, which is just fracking obnoxious.

These unfortunate individuals who have incurred lifelong health problems might gain some relief by seeking out Specialists in the field of environmental medicine.
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