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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:56 PM
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The White House told a lie about the oil being dispersed
is a shit statement
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:01 PM
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1. Whoop!...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:04 PM
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2. Why not have one thread and say anyone who disagrees
on anything Obama says makes shit statements.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:04 PM
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3. you no believe millions barrels oil go poof in closed system?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:05 PM
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4. The phantom data proves it did!!! n/t
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:07 PM
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5. Where do you think it went, LoZo?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 05:05 PM
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10. Kick for LoZo.
:kick:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 07:58 PM
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12. I would post it but it's like explaining magnets to a member of the Insane Clown Posse. n/t
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 08:25 PM
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16. In other words, you don't have anything solid to offer.
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 08:34 PM by Forkboy
Hey, the ICP magnet thing is hilarious, but that's no cover for your lack of detail.

Don't be a poser, like ICP.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 12:56 AM
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21. Whoa. Talk about a dodge... n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 02:19 AM
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29. collected, burned, evaporated, biodegraded.
What do you think happened to it?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 11:22 AM
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34. I don't know. Even scientists aren't in agreement on this yet.
Some scientists doubt data on dissipation of oil from gulf

But, in interviews, scientists who worked on the report said the figures were based in large part on assumptions and estimates, educated guesses with a significant margin of error.

Some outside scientists went further: In a situation in which many facts remain murky, they said, the government seemed to have used interpretations that made the gulf — and the federal efforts to save it — look as good as possible.

“There’s a lot of . . . smoke and mirrors in this report, I’m afraid,’’ said Ian MacDonald, a professor of biological oceanography at Florida State University. “It seems very reassuring, but the data aren’t there to actually bear out the assurances.’’
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But scientists who worked on the report said many of the numbers on the White House’s pie chart had significant margins of error. The estimate of how much oil evaporated was calculated using a formula designed for spills near the surface, not 5,000 feet underwater. The calculation of how much oil would be “dispersed’’ as it flowed from the well was a new one, extrapolated from data about the way oil is broken by waves.
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The situation is “being portrayed as `the oil is out of the environment; it’s gone,’ ’’ said Michael Blum, a professor of earth and ecological science at Tulane University in New Orleans. But, he said, all that is certain is that “the form of the oil has shifted. Dispersed oil is still oil. It’s just in a different form.’’

Even if the government is right and only 26 percent of the oil is left, that would still be 1.3 million barrels, five times the oil spilled from the Exxon Valdez in 1989.

“In terms of the environmental impacts, the story is really not written yet,’’ despite the numbers released, said Steve Murawski, a NOAA senior scientist.

http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2010/08/05/some_scientists_doubt_data_on_dissipation_of_oil_from_gulf/
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:12 PM
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6. and you believe millions upon millions of gallons of OIL and dispersants just disapeared?
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 04:20 PM by flyarm
poof gone..well I have some shrimp for you to eat..you first, I JUST KNOW YOU will be first in line to eat it right?? and we can all watch you and wait to see the cancers grow in you!!


Wow, do I have LOVELY swamp land for you here in Florida..Alligators included..and don't worry..this White House will probably tell you the alligators don't bite! YOU KNOW THIS SILLY SEASON WHITE HOUSE IS SO FUNNY..I bet you would jump right into a pen with them ..right?? yeah right..

PERHAPS YOU SHOULD READ THIS..NOOOOOOOOOOOO this White House doesn't lie..or mistate truth and facts..no siree they don't..........:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

Sierra Club: The truth about OIl Spills and Hurricanes Katrina and Rita
http://congress.b-team.org/ocs/Katrina_Oil_Spills-Facts...

Sierra Club: The truth about OIl Spills and Hurricanes Katrina and Rita

http://congress.b-team.org/ocs/Katrina_Oil_Spills-Facts...

124 oil spills into the Gulf waters

During Katrina 233,000 gallons of oil spilled into the Gulf

508,000 gallons of oil spilled into the Gulf During Rita
Total of 741,000 gallons of oil into the Gulf = to 7 significant oil spills

the 2 hurricanes destroyed 115 oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico and 457 Pipelines

"Houston Chronicle review of data from the National Response Center report that including spills on land , the two Hurricanes caused 595 spills and spilled approximately 9 million gallons of oil"



Remember When Obama opened up oil drilling less than two weeks before the Horizon exploded repeated the lies that no oil was spilled in the Gulf during Hurricanes Katrina and Rita..it was a lie then and it was a lie now!

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

http://www.terradaily.com/reports/US_Oil_Production_Ree...
b]Hurricane Sends Runaway Oil Rig Crashing Into Alabama Suspension Bridge
Mobile, Alabama (AFP) Aug 29, 2005 - An oil rig tore free of its moorings as Hurricane Katrina lashed the Alabama coast, before surging downriver and smashing into a suspension bridge, witnesses said Monday.
The platform broke free from the Bender shipbuilding and repair yard in Mobile during the morning as the then Category Four Hurricane walloped the southern US coast.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 08:00 PM
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14. Well, they are both biodegrable.
The dispersant has a half-life of what, a few weeks?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:34 PM
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18. bullfuckingshit..no one knows, not the top scientists in the world know..
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 11:12 PM by flyarm


Biodegradable my ass!

How many people will get cancers from the evaporation in the air we fucking breathe? Only years will know.

This was the most disgusting cover up in my life..it rates right up their with the murder of JFK and the lies of 9/11! And this White House has been partners in the fucking lies and manipulation of facts and truth!

I can tell you this, I live on the Gulf, and I won't eat anything out of the Gulf! I have seen up close all the fucking lies!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 12:42 AM
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20. Um, actually scientists do know these things.
There's a whole branch of scientists. They call them chemists.

"it rates right up their with the murder of JFK and the lies of 9/11!"

Oh, you're one of those people.

In that case, you've got nothing to worry about, the spill never happened. The Gulf of Mexico is an Illuminati myth cooked up by Vasco da Gama and the Joos.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 01:43 AM
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24. NO THEY DON'T! stop the damn lies! I am sick and tired of the damn lies and the liars! eom
Edited on Thu Aug-05-10 01:43 AM by flyarm
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 02:09 AM
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26. LOL
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 01:57 AM
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25. Did you have a link to a source of that happy thought?
Or are you just assuming that the EPA was wrong to try to stop the pumping of the dispersant into the gulf?
(http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0731/bp-coast-guard-dispersants/)

Doesn't seem like anyone knows anything for sure, least of all the precise half-life of the dispersant (and, since when is the term 'half-life' used for anything other than radioactive substances?)...
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 02:17 AM
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27. Actually, I'm just using my knowledge of basic chemistry.
It's almost as easy as using google.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/nalco-releases-additional-technical-information-on-corexit-2010-05-27

Half life's twenty eight days.

"and, since when is the term 'half-life' used for anything other than radioactive substances?"

Since modern chemistry. Hundred, maybe a hundred fifty years. Not that I'd expect people in these discussions to have an understanding of modern chemistry, but still, you asked.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:18 PM
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7. It all went interdimensional and wound up in Global Dynamics' Section Five.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:19 PM
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8. Is that where that incredible game of Chess is going on????????
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 07:38 AM
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32. How did you know????

:rofl:
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:21 PM
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9. They hauled it off to Area 51.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 05:28 PM
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11. White doves took it away on beams of golden sunlight
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 07:59 PM
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13. The spill killed the Gulf, and started firecanes that destroyed North America.
The fact that you haven't heard about it yet is just proof of how deep this Obama conspiracy goes.
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 08:17 PM
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15. and the fish are clean to eat and the air is fit to breathe
and they took great care of the 9/11 workers after lying to them about the air quality...didn't they?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 08:35 PM
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17. Kick for LoZo, so he can explain where the oil went., with his vast scientific knowledge.
:kick:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 12:30 AM
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19. Shit thread is more like it. Unrec n/t
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 12:59 AM
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22. I normally rec threads like this. I WANT them to be on the Greatest Page. They need to be seen. nt
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 01:12 AM
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23. So that part of it which has evaporated went where? Into the atmosphere. That's a GOOD thing, right
Hydrocarbons in the atmosphere DO NOT cause global climate change... right?

When do we add the disappearance of hundreds of millions of gallons of hydrocarbon to The Big List of Accomplishments?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 02:18 AM
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28. Hydrocarbons break down in the air.
They break down into CO2, which is itself a greenhouse gas. But as the petroleum would have been burned anyway, that's not a huge issue.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 02:27 AM
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30. No one could have predicted...
that the people who were happy with the oil disaster because they thought they could spin it to attack Obama would now be upset because it wasn't really as bad as they had hoped.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 02:53 AM
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31. "True Progressives" for more environmental destruction!
I'll criticize Obama when he deserves it. But some people make it a little too obvious that it isn't about the issues for them.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 07:43 AM
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33. slickerist!
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