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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:19 PM
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My sympathy to the Japanese people for the horror experienced in Hirsohima/Nagasaki
I can not begin to understand the horror and my sympathies to you.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:20 PM
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1. Mine too. K&R.
:kick:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:21 PM
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2. Thanks, trying to get the right expression.
will argue elsewhere whether or not it was needed, here simply expressing my sympathy towards those people affected.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:27 PM
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3. Thank you to those who have been patient and helped me work out the right wording
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:28 PM
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4. Yes... it remains beyond belief to me...
Edited on Fri Aug-06-10 12:31 PM by hlthe2b
Admittedly I've found it hard to demonize Truman for his decision to be the first to use it, given how my parents explained the impact of the war on both fronts and the real threats the US and its allies experienced. However, seeing the real impact of those bombs, I can not imagine that Truman did not have later, devastating regrets. But, no other individual, nor country will ever get a pass.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:30 PM
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5. Those who were in these or affected by them, I cannot imagine.
No matter the rights or wrongs, those who were in it, words fail me.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:34 PM
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6. Yes... civilians living their lives, with no control over the actions
of their government. Horror beyond belief. I have such respect for the people of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, who were able to pick up the shattered pieces of their lives and rebuild after experiencing such horror.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:34 PM
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7. I sympathize...
...with the residents of those (and surrounding) towns.

However, I sympathize even more with the residents of Nanking and countless other Chinese cities that endured one of the most brutal occupations the world has ever seen.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:37 PM
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10. Both groups are civilians-- at the mercy of decisions made
without their consent or assent. Unless you feel that the Japanese emperor acted with the full knowledge and support of the entire populace, why would one deserve more sympathy than another?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:40 PM
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11. I sympathize with them all. If you want to start a Nanking sympathy thread, feel free
I sympathize with homeless in the USA also, and starving in Sudan. Innocents are harmed all over in many ways. However, this being the 65th anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima, I have posted this thread to them.

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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:44 PM
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12. Let us morn for All the victims of War. nt
Edited on Fri Aug-06-10 01:13 PM by One_Life_To_Give
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 01:00 PM
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14. Please share that on one of the other a-bomb-right-or-wrong threads
thank you
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 02:27 PM
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26. Indeed and thank you. nt
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 03:02 PM
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29. Why more?
:shrug:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:36 PM
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8. I feel the same way.
I wish humanity would grow past war period, there has got to be a better way.

Thanks for the thread, uppityperson.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:37 PM
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9. I sympathize, and hope one day to see nukes obsolete.
Amen. :grouphug:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:47 PM
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13. +1000.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 01:03 PM
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15. Puts new meaning in the phrase
"Fuck you, Whale" "Fuck you, Dolphin"
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 01:07 PM
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16. what does expressing sympathy to those who experienced this horror have to do with "fuck you whale"?
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 01:19 PM
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18. There was a South Park episode that explained Japanese
slaughter of whales and dolphins by showing that the Hiroshima museum had a big picture of a dolphin and a whale piloting the Enola Gay.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 01:25 PM
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23. ah, thank you, that makes sense.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 01:11 PM
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17. delete
Edited on Fri Aug-06-10 01:12 PM by uppityperson
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 01:23 PM
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20. try again to delete. Darn my sticky fingers
Edited on Fri Aug-06-10 01:39 PM by uppityperson
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 01:24 PM
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22. delete, wrong place
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 01:22 PM
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19. Yes for those who were actually there and still alive
they have my respect as survivors of a war like no other. As for Imperial Japan no one is mourning its destruction.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 01:24 PM
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21. of course. For those whose family/friends were killed/harmed, my sympathies
For Imperial Japan, no one is mourning its destruction.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 01:31 PM
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24. Terrible byproduct of war.
if they were serving in any function that facilitated the state or the military there were legitimate targets. The modern context of conflict should not be applied to a country who refused to sign the geneva convention.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 01:33 PM
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25. I am not talking military, or right/wrong of the bombing, or anything else, just my sympathies for
those who were impacted by the bombings. War is hell indeed and anyone who goes lightly into it is, imho, a fool or insane.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 02:28 PM
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27. Mine too, although I think that the horror was necessary.
That it was necessary to end that war does not make it any less horrible. Even worse, relative innocents suffered for the crimes of their leaders; and at least in the case of Nagasaki, the wrong local populations suffered.

And by the way, had an U.S. invasion of Japan gone forward, it is very likely that Nagasaki might have been destroyed in the fighting, assuming the U.S. invasion even made it onto the beaches. Nagasaki was not far from where the invasion was to occur.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 02:39 PM
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28. It is always the people, the peons, the masses, who suffer.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:07 PM
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30. Add mine to yours.
It's so incredibly sad that the carnage didn't have to be. They were suing for surrender through the Russians but we had to use our new shiny toy. :mad:
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