Cop on Dog violence continues unabated

[MrScorpio]

Clayton County Officer Shoots, Kills Dog


Posted: 3:23 pm EDT August 6, 2010Updated: 3:51 pm EDT August 6, 2010
CLAYTON COUNTY, Ga. -- A Riverdale man said he felt mistreated after an officer shot and killed his dog in response to a false alarm Friday.

“It’s not right. It’s just not right for Clayton County police officers to do that,” Stacy Clark told Channel 2’s Rebecca Lindstrom.

Police officers said they thought there was a holdup at the house. When they arrived, Clark’s dog, Jadore, came running out and one officer didn’t have enough time to grab his pepper spray, police said. He reached for his weapon instead, police said.

Clark said Officers asked everyone in the house to step outside, and three of them were ordered to the ground and handcuffed. Police removed the handcuffs after verifying their identities.

That’s when Clark noticed Jadore wasn’t moving, he said.

When Clark asked what happened, he said he was told, “I shot it. Just point blank, I shot it.”

Clark’s alarm company had contacted officers claiming someone hit the panic button around 4 a.m. The panic button should have automatically sounded an alarm in the house, but Clark and his roomates said it never did.

They also said they have never heard the dog growl or attack.

“She’s just not no vicious dog, period,” Clark said.

Tonya Quillan was one of the handcuffed roommates, but she said she understands why police acted toward them they way they did.

“They were following procedure. They didn’t know if we were invaders of whatever…,” she said.

It is also standard procedure for a police supervisor to review any case involving an officer firing a weapon.

ADT home security will be sending a technician to the home to assess the alarm.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/24540812/detail.html

[xchrom]

1. I love dogs and I vote. Nt

[Arctic Dave]

2. The guy wonders why the cop was so aggressive?

Hint, your black and live in the south. You of all people should know racism is very alive down there.

I'll give you ten thumbs up if anyone can find this type of police behavior happening in a upper middle class white neighborhood.

[MrScorpio]

3. Yep, cops kill white people's dogs too

http://reason.com/blog/2008/07/31/mayors-dogs-killed-in-drug-rai

The killing off of dogs is now law enforcement SOP

http://reason.com/archives/2006/04/01/government-goons-murder-puppie

[Arctic Dave]

14. Yeah but do they handcuff the owners and lay them all face down in their

own driveways?

I would say a story like that would be as rare as unicorns.

[MrScorpio]

17. Of course, there's a racial component to the drug war

I don't dispute that.

I'm just saying that today's cops will shoot anyone's pets, if they're classified as an obstacle, without regard to the owner's race.

[Arctic Dave]

20. Yeah, I would have to agree with that. N/t

[Liquorice]

8. Oh bull. This has nothing to do with race. nt

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10. What?! Don't you know racism is to be assumed in every instance? Get with the program. nt

[Arctic Dave]

15. So your saying that cops shoot dogs and handcuff and lay the owners of

the house face down in the driveway all the time? I would love to see the many other reports you refer to.

[undeterred]

4. Maybe the cops want us to hate and distrust them.

[Skip Intro]

5. One side of the story. That's enough for me. Racist, dog-killing pig-cops it is!

:sarcasm:

[MrScorpio]

7. I guess, that in your world, this kitten deserved to get shot by a cop as well

Trooper kills a kitten and loses his job

http://media2.newsobserver.com/smedia/2010/05/28/22/TROOPERCAT-052810_G891CJ4SB.1+rowdy01.embedded.prod_affiliate.156.jpg

BY MICHAEL BIESECKER - STAFF WRITER
A state trooper who wanted to stop animals from climbing on his vehicles trapped his neighbor's 5-month-old kitten and shot it to death.

Former Trooper Shawn C. Houston was charged in October with cruelty to animals and injury to real property, both misdemeanors, according to court records. The Highway Patrol dismissed him in January.

Houston, 39, declined to discuss his firing this week. But in an appeal of his dismissal filed May 10, the former trooper contends that he was treated unfairly and that he deserves his job back.


The court filing says Houston was bothered by something climbing on vehicles parked at his home in Granite Falls, a small community about 170 miles west of the Triangle. He had also caught a glimpse of "an unknown animal" that jumped out at him "during the hours of darkness," according to his appeal.

The trooper, who said he was concerned for the safety of his three young sons, baited a steel trap with ham and captured a small domestic cat. When Houston tried to remove the animal, which did not have tags, it scratched him, according to his appeal. Then he killed it.

"The Petitioner did not know if the cat had rabies or any other disease," the summary filed by Houston says. "The cat was hissing and growling at Petitioner and Petitioner shot the cat."



Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/05/29/505974/trooper-kills-a-kitten-and-loses.html#ixzz0qKbG2JD9

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9. Nope. Do you consider at least hearing both sides before concluding guilt to be radical?

I don't think it is. It's kind of written into our system of justice. Seems perfectly reasonable to me to want to know both sides of the story before passing judgment.

In the case of the kitten, well, I have yet to see a kitten that can pose a real threat to an adult human being. But then, does the kitten story prove the dog story, where again, you only hear one side of the story? Of course not.

Did logic take a holiday today or what?

[MrScorpio]

11. I'm not going to sit here and just suppose...

That all of these cop-on-dog violence stories are just merely a group of quaint occurrences of coincidence.

It's quite apparent that cops are dispatching pets as a matter of expedience... Hell. It's not like the dogs are able to speak up for themselves.

Shoot the dog(s), proceed with whatever they're doing and just fill out some paperwork claiming that the pet was "attacking" or "aggressive" as justification. The easy route.

That's where logic take me.

[Skip Intro]

12. And I'm not going to sit here and just suppose...

That bloodthirsty cops are just killing dogs for kicks. That defies logic.

I prefer to take each instance on a case by case basis, weighing the facts and statements from both sides before reaching a conclusion, setting personal bias aside. That seems logical to me as well.

[MrScorpio]

13. Wait, wait, wait...

So you're telling me that if some cops show up at someone's house, especially with the intention of arresting somebody, these big, burly, macho defenders of the law are just going to stand idly by and let some unknown animal stand between them and their intended target?

Fuck no.

Shoot the furry fuckers and get on with mission... That's why they were issued guns in the first place, to shoot at whatever is in their way.

In your everlasting adoration of all things cop, I have this distinct feeling that you're overly romanticizing what today's militarized police are capable of.

And no, I'm not proposing that cops are "bloodthirsty" at all. I'm saying that they just don't give a fuck about people's pets.

They have a job to do, and the idea that they'd let someone's dog stop them from doing it is just plain naive. Do you really think that any cop wants to have to explain to his or her superiors that a dog stopped him or her from doing their job?

Please.

Come down to Earth.

[Lorien]

16. You can't reason with lockstep Authoritarians

logic, reason and compassion have no place in their world view.

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19. Ha! I've been called a lot of things on this board over the years, but that's a first.

rofl, thanks.

[Skip Intro]

18. ok ok ok...

Let's take this instance for example. The cops evidently arrived because they were responding to a call from ADT about a break in in progress. Let me just say that, yes, I am thankful that there are people who can be called to come into such a situation and protect life and property. Yes, I am. If that sounds like some twisted cop-worship to you, then I doubt there's anything I can say to alter that view.


Do I mean to argue that all cops are angels, of course not. But I don't see them as maniacal storm troopers either. But, again, using this instance as an example, we have little fact and a lot of speculation. And in your case, a definite bias. As a matter of fairness, I argue that judgment be withheld until both sides are have spoken fully to the incident, with perhaps some facts sprinkled on top. For example, do we know the breed of dog in question? My guess is that if it were a very small breed, the dog's owner would have said so. There is just not enough known about this case to make a fair judgment at this time, imho. I don't get what is so hard to grasp about that.

[MrScorpio]

21. So...

What cop has the time to assess the breed of whatever dog that happens to be standing in his way when he has a job to do? I'd like to meet this guy. Shit, I'd buy him a Kennel Club membership, just for the hell of it.

This cop in particular was investigating a possible burglary. I doubt that the welfare of some guy's pet was the first and foremost on this cop's mind.

Do you think that while this cop is hyped up, when he suddenly sees a ball of fur, teeth and claws, he's going to drop to one knee to go, "Here, doggy, doggy"?

Yeah... Right!

The fact is that the cop shot the dog. It's also a fact that cops are shooting dogs left and right these days. Google "Cop shoots dog" and you'll get over THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND HITS.

By the way, you're intentionally misrepresenting my position through hyperbole. It's not like I can't see what you're doing.

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26. You don't seem to want to have a rational discussion here

Of course I'm not saying the cop had time to assess the breed of dog, just that it could well have been a large dog, and could well have been aggressive toward the cops who were responding to the illegal entry call. Who is misrepresenting who here?

And I agree that the welfare of the dog was not utmost in the cop's mind, but that doesn't mean the dog wasn't a threat. Was he maybe supposed to go play fetch with the dog before proceeding to the break-in in progress?

Btw, if you google "dog attacks" you get OVER SEVEN MILLION HITS.

Big deal. I'd still like to know both sides of the story before passing judgment. That's what I've said from the beginning. You're the one who started with the kitten story and my "world."

I'm kinda tired of playing now. Nite.

[MrScorpio]

27. Have some sweet ones

Nighty night

[mopinko]

6. some cops are more afraid of dogs than punks with guns.

my dogs got loose one day- a boxer and 3 little terriers. i had no idea they were loose. they just hang around a sniff and pee on things if someone leaves a gate open.
someone had called the cops. i looked out when i heard the dogs start barking insanely. i see 2 cop cars i front of my house. i ran out and settled everything down. the cop that had been first on the scene was shaking like a leaf, something i have never seen in 30 years living in chicago. the boxer is a love sponge, but she does a pretty good imitation of a guard dog. he had no way of knowing that she is nearly toothless, to boot.
he was just about to pull his weapon when i got out there. he was so relieved that he didn't need to shoot.

[Xicano]

22. Video of cops killing a dog.

Warning graphic video, but there's no actual image of the dog. However the audio is clear what happens to the dog.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enb3FHYf4fk

[MrScorpio]

23. SOP, baby

SOP

[Xicano]

24. And its disgusting.

Criminal if you ask me.

By the way, hi MrScorpio its nice to see you. :hi:


Peace,
Xicano

[MicaelS]

25. Cops are going keep doing this, and one of these days..

A pet owner is going to shoot back and kill a cop. And then the pet owner will end up dead, or in prison, or on death row. It is only a matter of time.

[Hawkowl]

28. Fuck the police

Stupid fascist sadists. Or cowards for shooting a dog. Fuck them. Fuck them.