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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 08:20 PM
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The economy is looking up! *
This OP is addressed to those progressives under us who never cease to point out how bad the economy is and I have to admit that up until two days ago, I was one of them. Well, let me tell you how wrong you are. We must finally stop seeing the glass as half empty instead of nine-tenths full. Really.

Here's why.

I first became aware of this improvement last week when, by chance, I saw a report on a wonderful variation of the “free market” theory carrying the self-descriptive name of Vulture Real Estate Investing, which showcased an operation out of Florida called Condo Vultures. The chief consultant of this firm, a certain Peter Zalewski, spoke like a general planning his next attack, using terms like “going for the kill”, “taking them down”, or “cutting their throats”, all with true glee in his eyes as he described his acquisitions. I had to laugh a little at this, because as a former infantryman, I know what it’s like to carry a weapon and to be prepared to use it. Somehow, I don’t think Peter does. However, I cannot really blame him, because he’s just doing what vultures do. If I want to get upset at anyone it should be the creators of the “carrion”, if you will. That carrion is the heap of broken lives our superior economic system has generated. No one with a platform to inform us on this phenomenon seems to be concerned, though. Just take a look at http://abc7news.typepad.com/finneyblog/2010/08/vulture-real-estate-investing.html">Michael Finney’s Consumer Blog:

“Stop whining about real estate prices and make them work for you! It is called vulture real estate investing, because you swoop in and grab the carcass of someone else’s failed real estate dreams. There is big money to be made now. Not by buying and flipping, but buying and renting.”


Yes, things are looking up and 2009 was a real year of prosperity for the vultures, with http://realestateinvestordaily.com/foreclosures/record-number-of-foreclosures-in-2009/">3.9 million foreclosures. That’s a record amount of carrion; so much that you can smell the putrid stench in every U.S. city.

Then came the report by Robert Reich a few days ago: http://robertreich.org/post/863304269/the-great-decoupling-of-corporate-profits-from-jobs">The Great Decoupling of Corporate Profits from Jobs, where it was reported that the top 500 non-financial companies in the U.S. were sitting on close to $1 trillion in the second quarter of this year. As it now stands, they have also reeled in around 90% of their losses made at the beginning of the depress..., oops – I mean recession. That’s great news…if you are a Chinese labourer, because these companies are not hiring here, but hey, it’s a matter of national pride that we spread the “free market” around the globe, bringing with it joy and prosperity for all. Be happy because this shows we are winning the big battle, even though many of us here are losing everything.

-Lee Greenwood chimes in right about now - “And I’m proud to be an American...

But all of this crystallized two days ago, when I was made an unusual job offer. I work as a freelance hospice caregiver and as such I must constantly be on the ball when it comes to finding patients to care for at the end of their journey. I also have an agency, but they aren’t of much use to me and rarely call back. I was spending the day applying at other places, trying to get my foot in the door in different economic sectors like Taco Bell, CVS, and 7-11. I worked only four days last month, which makes paying the rent a real adventure.

Anyway, my tour through the nonexistent job market brought me together with a man desperate for employees. He was quite distressed at not being able to find enough personnel to cover the work load of his company which specializes in car repossessions. He told me that as of now he has around 700 repossessions a month, as opposed to 100/month a year ago. This is just an average figure. Sometimes it’s a little more, sometimes a little less, but 700 was the figure he felt adequately reflects the situation. I would be working on commission and could really “rake in the cash” as he put it.

If you are a child of the 80s you may know the excellent movie Repo Man, but the reality isn’t half as exciting. There are no car chases and certainly no dead aliens in the trunk, but you do have to be prepared for confrontation when you grab someone’s ride. I would love to have more than $2 left in my account after scraping the rent together. I’d love to be able to go out every once in awhile and get a little stupid – maybe treat myself to a good meal or see a movie. I really would, but then I thought of those people who are worse off than I. Maybe that car belongs to a single mother who needs it to get to work in order to earn the money to pay off the medical bills accrued when her child was diagnosed with a serious illness; after all, the best health care in the world has to cost something. Who knows, maybe the family of four down the street will need that car to live in when the bank defaults on their home.

…where at least I know I’m free.

I joke that I’d take any job, and I mean any job, as long as I didn’t have to kill people. Well, my apologies to Emilio Estevez, but I’m going to have to add repo man to that list.

I declined his offer.

Yes, things are looking up. You just have to know where to look.

Think about it.

* for some people
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 08:25 PM
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1. *700* repos a MONTH?
Holy schnikes! :wow:
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 08:28 PM
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2. I know!
It blew my mind, too. I even asked again to be sure I understood him correctly.

Insane!
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 08:33 PM
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5. this may seem weird, but I'm seeing a LOT more out of state plates lately
If that number is a *standard* across the country, I wonder how many people are *on the run* to try to keep their vehicles out of the clutches of the repo guys?

I know it's an extreme thought, but if the numbers are THAT high -- wow! I know we had to really grovel to work out payments when my DH was underemployed - I can only imagine what others are going through now.

Again -- :wow:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 08:28 PM
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3. The exact day my home went into foreclosure I got about 8 calls from these predators.
They're watching the foreclosure records closely, just like the other snakes who watch the obituaries.
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 08:31 PM
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4. Please!
Not all of us snakes are bad!

;-)

But, yes it is a terrible situation we are in. The average person has practically no venue for relief and no one to turn to.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 08:34 PM
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6. I'm hoping for help from HUD and/or the new FinReg mortgage assistance.
But I don't expect much. At this point, I just don't care. My situation really can't get any worse than it already is.

Sorry, bad choice of words on my part, I didn't mean to imply anything. :)
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 06:09 AM
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7. I really wish you good luck.
It's all we have now. I've given up on the "hope".
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 07:28 AM
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8. big k & r
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 07:37 AM
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9. Condo Vultures was also featured in
Michael Moore's "Capitalism". They guy who runs it is truly the portrait of a capitalist. It's one thing to know that the system rewards only sociopathic behavior, and another to see it in all its glory. The economy is only looking up if you are benefiting from what others are losing.
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 01:28 AM
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22. That guy embodies...
...all that is wrong with this country and people like him make me sick.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 04:11 PM
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10. Good for you!!
Edited on Sat Aug-07-10 04:11 PM by maryf
K&R this post, and I hope things turn around for you,...:applause: :yourock:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 04:22 PM
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11. Another great snake in the grass post.
Keep it up.

:thumbsup:
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 05:22 PM
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12. A repo man spends his life getting into tense situations
Seriously, rental real estate is looking to be a good gig.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 05:31 PM
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13. Fucking A.
:(
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 05:35 PM
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14. try Craigslist, non profit category
I just checked and some one needs a "spiritfilled" worship leader. You could put that on your resume' and get to rockin forthwithly.:toast:
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 06:42 PM
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15. Yeah, things are looking up everywhere.
I can always get a job conning school districts into hiring me to massage their test numbers and narrow their curriculum to fit the new education reform program (heretofore known as reagan's dream or newt's desire). There's a killing to be made with private charters and test prep. I make money and the kids that might be competition for my grandkids get the short end of the learning stick. Welcome to change.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 06:46 PM
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16. I wish you the best man. It is criminal that the hard working folks of this
Edited on Sat Aug-07-10 06:47 PM by ooglymoogly
country have been so cynically and systematically forced to such death defying depths. Excellent post and Goodonya and keep writing. That you can write must be some consolation. Here's hoping you can turn that to good use. Good thoughts out. kr.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 07:22 PM
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17. I'm glad I'm not the only poor person with scruples
I won't telemarket or anything else that is "creating an (unnecessary) demand for a product," nor will I work in a predatory industry.

I'll leave that to someone else who has no problem being part of the process that destroys lives.
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tucsonlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 09:04 PM
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19. I'm Not Poor, But I Have Been....
...Today, I'm actually pretty comfortable. Of course, it helps that I'm single, own a home that's paid off, and have zero debt. In fact, I've been told that I could make a "killing" in real estate today - buying up foreclosures for a song and renting them out.

But I'm a "child of the sixties" you see, and have always tried to live up to the ideals we claimed to stand for back then. I've never deliberately taken advantage of others' misfortunes, and wouldn't dream of starting now. I suppose that makes me a "bleeding heart" to some. Guess I'll never "make it", or become a "success" in their eyes. Not when I refuse to recognize "opportunity" when it comes a'knocking.

But as Lewis Black put it, "How much STUFF do ya need"? There might be people out there capable of rationalizing and justifying any and all behavior. Me - The day I trade away my humanity for the sake of a few bucks is the day, well, when....








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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 02:46 PM
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28. I did telemarketing for about 6 weeks...
...before I told my slimy supervisor to stick it and walked out. They were trying to sell senior citizens special lottery tickets that were "computer enhanced" to ensure a better chance of winning, which was utter bullshit. The names of these people they bought from a very well-known mail order company and we first had to act like we were from said company and ask seemingly innocuous questions like if they were satisfied with the products they had purchased and (here's the key question) how often they made an order. If it was often, that hinted at money and then we went into the con of making the lottery offer. I couldn't sleep at night and was always happy when they declined. My supervisor thought I needed remedial lessons in pitching a sale and I was convinced he needed a remedial lesson in ethics.

I'll never forget the look in his eyes when I told him this was wrong. I could have been speaking ancient Greek and it would have made the same amount of sense to him. Our system dehumanizes everyone except those at the very top. They're not human.

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 07:41 PM
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18. Awesome post.
Let's hear it for the "jobless recovery"... scream!
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 10:39 PM
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20. Great post, Snake. Too late to rec though.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 10:49 PM
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21. Run a hot dog stand in downtown Boston
My wife and I got into Boston yesterday afternoon (she from Düsseldorf, me from Dallas).

I swear, downtown was wall-to-wall people waiting to get into the restaurants and bars ("bahs" in the lcoal dialect).
My wife was hungry, but didn't want to wait 90 minutes for a place in a restaurant, so she got a simple hot dog from
one of the streetside vendors. She didn't see a price listed, but we figured how much could a simple hot dog be?

It could be about $6, with a tiny plastic bottle of water for another $3. She declined the water and was rather pissed
about the $6 hot dog, though it was too late to give it back. Welcome to America.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:43 AM
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23. Excellent!
I'm sure we'll find lots of recruits around the world to participate in the wonders of free-market capitalism. If only they'd let more hardened criminals out of prison.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:52 AM
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24. Repo Man..
.... at the time it came out, was one of my favorite movies. It's still up there, but it doesn't hold up with age particularly well.

It does have more than its share of great one-liners, like

"let's do some crimes - yeah, let's go eat sushi and not pay"

And the "lattice of coincidence" speech is supposed to be comic but it is absolutely true :)
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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 08:45 AM
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25. I haf a friend who became a real estate vulture
It's nothing new. Buy distressed property cheap. Rent it out. Do everything half-assed cheap. So many years later his a soulless, hateful, and friendless miser whose worth a lot of dough on paper.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 10:31 AM
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26. Big Ad in Yesterday's Newspaper..."Collections Agents Needed."
And, my city is not even one of the worst hit by the recession.

:kick:
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 10:41 AM
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27. GOP- Florida makes it so easy for real estate vultures.
In Ohio, as on example, if a a house is foreclosed on, and someone wants to buy it, three independent appraisals are done, and the purchaser must pay at least 60 percent of current market value.

In Florida? You can purchase a foreclosed house/condo for ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS! I know this for a fact because my daughter's first home, a Ft. Myers condo she purchased newly built for $235,000 was foreclosed on 3 years later and snapped up for $100 by someone who sold it a few months later for $54,000. (Daughter lost her job and had to move to the midwest to find work. She rented her property for over a year, at a monthly loss, in hopes of finding a buyer to take over her mortgage. She lost her 20% down payment and more - had to go through bankruptcy.)

I lived in Florida decades ago and really disliked it for many reasons. The oppressive heat, tropical storms and hurricanes, mosquitos, snakes and palmetto bugs were bad enough in the 60's. Given the climate change and forecasts, not to mention its political climate, I would never even consider moving there as a retiree.
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 02:48 PM
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29. I grew up in Florida and left when I was 21.
I can never go back there.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:55 PM
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30. Oddly some of the nicest people on DU are from Florida.
I visited there as a tourist, and when the Disney World employee driving the horse drawn carriage threw the little black kid off the carriage, in front of my mom, dad and my stunned four year old's eyes, I realized I never wanted to go back.

When it happened we were all too stunned to do anything about it. he told us warmly that we didn't need to worry about the kid coming back.

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davidthegnome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 04:17 PM
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31. Good choice, but...
Some will take what they can get out of desperation. Say you've got a family, three kids depending on you. You've got a rent or a mortgage to worry about, at least one car payment, utilities, groceries, insurance, etc. Any extra activities the kids want to be involved in, martial arts, dancing, guitar lessons, whatever. Say you get laid off and you have no spouse. Say your job was your only source of income and there's no one to really turn to for help. What are your options? Few. You might find a job where you're seriously underemployed and underpaid, in which case chances of bankruptcy are fairly high.

In a case like that, I can see taking the job and becoming repo man if I must. What's sad and scary is that the current situation in this Country is pretty much forcing people into jobs like that. Even people who normally would refuse to do such work.

When things get desperate and you're out of options, you take what you can find. I'm not there just yet, my parents are still alive and have their jobs and their health. Thank God for that, because I sure as heck can't find work in my little neck of the woods. If not for them I'd most likely be forced to work for a telemarketing company - I've done it before and hated it, it didn't last long. But this time I'd have to stay or starve.

No, I'm not that desperate yet myself, but one day I may be - and millions of others already are.
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