If you are poor in this nation, please die quickly. We just got word

[Skidmore]

that my husbands ex is dying now. She was diagnosed with cancer last year. I won't recount their history but it was complicated and was ancient by the time we met. It is definitely water under the bridge, except for the fact that they have 3 children (now grown) together. I never met this woman and have never had any personal beef with her.

Slightly too young to retire, she has continued to work for hourly wages. She cannot afford insurance nor is there a plan where she worked. She was turned away for care at the local hospital until her health deteriorated to the point that they only did surgery as palliative care to ease her pain and to keep her insides from literally falling out. I do know that no person deserves to suffer this way. She just in the past few weeks was granted disability status.

This reminded me of my mother's situation at the end of her life. She worked until the day she was diagnosed in early February about 15 years ago. We applied for SS for her and she was put on a fast tract for people with terminal illnesses and the first check arrived in the mail the day after she died at the end of May that year. She had been misdiagnosed for years and did not receive the care she needed.

How many people are like this? You work until you are at death's door. My husband this morning commented to me that you never see a legislator retire. Not really. They have to be drummed out of office or they die practically in the chair they were elected to. Do they go without care or income. They let you die because you are among the poor or working poor. You are collateral damage for the wealthy and the powerful

Alan Grayson is absolutely right. We need the poor, the working class, and the middle class to get off of their asses and make certain that what little means we are able to squirrel away is not taken from us. Let us refuse to lay down and die for these bastards.

[Solly Mack]

1. K&R

[daleanime]

2. Hell yea...

:bounce:

[Wounded Bear]

3. Proud to K&R....nt

[Safetykitten]

4. I will fill in the remaining responses, so kick back....

Well, she should of tried to get in the high risk pool.

There were no programs for her to take advantage of?

That's bullshit, there are things out there for her to have taken advantage of.

Nobody gets turned away from the hospital.

That story is highly unlikely, as there is always something that could of been done.

This is why it's so important to hang in there for our new HCR bill in 2014.

The HCR bill was not made to address this.

The HCR bill was made to adress this.

Thank God we have the new HCR bill.

People do not understand how the new HCR bill will help them.

So, let me get this, she did not go into the high risk pool? Well if she has no money....don't blame the President.


Is that about it? Did I get them all? Let me know....

[Skidmore]

8. My rant is not so much about the HCR as it is

about the attempt to remove a safety net from people in the lower classes. Pay attention to the fight over SS. We need to keep that intact.

BTW, she was diagnosed before the bill was passed, and all of its provisions have not kicked in. I do not fully understand its ramifications for people with acute or chronic illnesses. I do agree that it needs to be modified and amended but as a person who has survived cancer, I am extremely grateful that I can no longer be denied coverage or care because I have a preexisting condition.

We are being told that our lives and work are not worth squat. That sitting behind a desk and stealing for a living is more valued than sweating your ass off in a factory, on a farm, swinging a hammer or turning a wrench, bussing tables, or punching a cash register. And that all the work wears a person down physically. When you are no longer useful to profitability, take your sorry ass off and lay down and die. You do not deserve food, shelter, or care. And do bother to make our chic district ugly by sitting on a bench because you no longer have the means to supply these necessities. That is what the Republican economic model demands of people. We need to stop it.

[Safetykitten]

11. The fact is this. She deserved medical care as a human right .

[Skidmore]

15. I agree.

And I think that we need to build a fire under legislators to fix the bill they did get in place. We have a foundation to build on. Let's do it.

[Delphinus]

38. Amen.

Those in the Single Payer camp tried to get this through to people and Congress.

[Cleita]

67. Yes, and we were told we were wacky nut cases

because there weren't enough votes.

[Jackpine Radical]

68. And here ya got yer typical wacky nutcase single-payer advocate.

We all pretty much look like this.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_muc5Wyf14o8/SUVvHb9hsbI/AAAAAAAAAcs/cYUwW3U3Itw/s200/crazy+blue+head2.JPG

[Triana]

52. damn right. n/t

[babylonsister]

83. Ha! She may have deserved it, but when did anyone give

a damn about that? You bemoan HCR, but this is the first prez in my memory who ever got as far as he did. You can diss it to your heart's content. Get back to me in about 10 years. Unfortunately, nothing with this stuff is magical or immediate.


And fyi, I am uninsured with pre-existing conditions. And yes, I'm lucky because I don't think I'm dying yet.

[Triana]

51. "When you are no longer useful to profitability, take your sorry ass off and lay down and die."

That right there is our national anthem - not officially of course - but ignore the damn singing and pretentious platitudes and look at what happens - what we do - or they do to us and how they get away with it.

"When you are no longer useful to profitability, take your sorry ass off and lay down and die (quickly)." ©USA

[Stardust]

85. Right on. K&R

[dotymed]

96. I can attest

I have been fighting SS disability for almost 6 years. I have heart failure and have had 4 stents, 3 angiograms and 5 heart attacks (official ones...lol) since my fight began. I lost 20 pounds this month and I have never been overweight...
I had to fire my "lawyer" (totally worthless) and file my own appeal (which got accepted) but sometimes, you get too sick to fight.
Amazingly, I have read most (all?) of their rules regarding heart related disabilities. According to their information, I qualify since 2001.
My "lawyer" said "I don't see how they could deny this case. It is the strongest I have seen." before (their) court. After "court", "well, we can appeal, I don't know what happened..."
He had 6 "trials" that day. He did not say a word (on my behalf) during their (layman adjudicated) "court."
I really believe that he had already stuck a deal with the "judge."
"If you give me these three, we can just forget the other three" type of deal.
I am only 49. They told me from the beginning, that went against me. After my Dr.'s told me, I might survive 5 years....
I would rather fight than die.
Their first SS qualification is if you have had 3 "revascularizations" in a 12 month period. I had 3 separate "revascularizations" in a 7 day period...
My heart arteries kept clogging and ripping. They would perform surgery, send me up to a room, then, I would wake up after another surgery....
Unbelievable.
Anyway, we need to fight...

[GreenPartyVoter]

9. Pretty good list, actually. You forgot all the ones about how single payer universal

healthcare is impossible in this country, though. :hi:

[Safetykitten]

12. Thanks, that's a oldie but goodie!

[northofdenali]

72. Welcome to DU Safetykitten -

Love the screen name (I am the crazy old cat lady on my block) and your response above was so right on it brought tears to my eyes. My mom, at 88 had to take out a small mortgage on her house to have coverage that Medicare/Supplemental wouldn't take care of. Thank karma she paid it off and now, at 96 still has her home of over 60 years.

SINGLE. PAYER. NOW.

If we had decent rights as humans to health care in this country, I wouldn't be on the verge of foreclosure.

So again, thanks, and a heartfelt welcome.

[Enthusiast]

34. Yeah. It won't work in this country.

:sarcasm:

[Edweird]

13. All you are missing are some little blue links

that are connected to bizarrely unrelated posts - that you made in order to link to them. These, I believe, are supposed to be 'proof'.


Oh and you definitely need this avatar to fit in with those spouting the responses you paraphrased:

[tavalon]

27. I really hope you did because I hate those posts with a passion

Welcome to DU, btw. You pegged the blame the victim crowd way too well.

[bvar22]

48. You forgot this one:

Its ALL Joe Lieberman's fault.

[midnight]

49. Thank you safetykitten for covering all the excuses associated

with being left behind.

[txlibdem]

5. k&r

[arundhatiroyfan]

6. K&R

[Joe Chi Minh]

7. K&R

[lib_wit_it]

10. Unfortunately, too many people in this country refuse to cares bout this until it affects them

personally. If they did, this shit would be dealt with.

Medicare for all, or similar.

Fuck the insurance billionaires.

[w8liftinglady]

14. what the hell is happening !?!..refer to my earlier post-The Tea Party is fucking evil

i am so sorry about what your family is having to face,as I have seen the pain it places on people many times over as I care for patients.This has to stop.It has to.

Read here if you want a glimpse into their mindset.
http://www.aapsonline.org/teaparty/

[Skidmore]

17. It is evil and even more evil are the craven tools among our representatives and senators

that have glommed onto these people and are seeking to meet their demands. Most of these elected officials are millionaires several times over before they made it into office. IF they weren't, they have become wealthy by virtue of the fact that they used their offices to amass wealth...both sides.

[Enthusiast]

37. The Tea Party is serving its

purpose to perfection.

[truedelphi]

59. But it is not just the Tea Party.

It is everyone of the Political Class, with maybe a few exceptions like Grayson, Kennedy, Maxine Waters and Kucinich.

I am not able to afford health insurance.

And the fact that now I can be in a high risk pool means that I still cannot afford health insurance.

I can however be on the County plan, which is great for things like broken bones or pneumonia. And believe me, I am grateful for that. I have a very good General Practitioner.

But last year when my arm was having weekly spasms, and as it became clear that I needed to see a specialist, it was a nine month wait.

And by then the situation had resolved itself. (seems to be medication related, so I went off the suspected meds.)

But if it the spasms had been signaling that I was about to have a stroke, I probably wouldn't be here typing this. I probably would have stroked out long before the nine months were up.

Both parties are indifferent to the middle class. Both would rather have their trillion dollar wars, wars that they make no real attempt to win. And on account of that policy, there is no ability to have the excellent health care systems like every other nation has.

Granted the RW party is clearly Nazi-like. But the fact that the other party is only slightly less crazy, and slightly less engaged in helping out the Corporations, means that the ability to really create a difference in national policy by voting results in only marginal differences.

[Dragonfli]

74. +1000

[Stardust]

87. Your post reminded me of the incomparable George Carlin's riff on "The American Dream"

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[Autumn]

80. Plenty of evil to go around,

just look at some of the ones on "our" side.

[asdjrocky]

16. As it's always been for the poor.

With this New Democrat administration, it will not get better, only worse.

[w8liftinglady]

18. the problem is..it has spread to the middle-class...and 20% of children-as well

[Skidmore]

19. The middle class doesn't care as long as it can still

buy the newest Apple product and fad doodad.

[asdjrocky]

20. Bingo.

The middle class used to be a voice for labor in America, now they are the muddled class and they main thing they care about is voting on Dances with the Stars.

It's almost like it was planned.

[olegramps]

97. The Middle Class was the product of Unionization.

One of the first acts the President Roosevelt did was to nullify the laws that were passed by crooked politicians that made unions membership unlawful. This was the first step to the creation of the Middle Class.

When the younger workers coming into the work force during the 60's began to swallow the management's propaganda that unions were their enemy they signed and sealed their own death warrant.

You want a fair wage and benefits then UNIONIZE. You want Universal Health care then UNIONIZE and elect representatives that will actually represent the working class. You want all those jobs back that they outsourced, UNIONIZE and refuse to unload the damn ships until they pay comparable wages to foreign workers to level the playing field. UNIONIZE and force congress to rescind every damn one of the Free Trade Rip-off bills that they were nothing more than pay-offs to their corporate bosses.

[DeeDeeNY]

102. +1

That is definitely it, in a nutshell.

[olegramps]

99. Working Class Republicans and their own worst enemy.

[a la izquierda]

30. Exactly.

A dead, soulless, vacant middle class. Fucking sad.

[Golden Raisin]

57. While watching "Dancing With The Stars"

or "Keeping Up With The Kardashians" on the latest, greatest, must-have, plasma, fantasma, HD, 3-D, supersonic, bang-me-raw, 125"-inch screen which was purchased on credit.

[FooshIt]

23. so its only a problem when the middle class are hurt ... the poor are supposed to die young

and no one cares

[w8liftinglady]

24. according to these evil craps it is...the middle class is irrelevent now,too...

it is disappearing.

[tavalon]

28. You know when I first read your response, I was going to

mention that I thought you might mean evil creeps, but no, evil craps is better.

[w8liftinglady]

29. lol.I was trying to be civil and not sayS#!t h&^ds

[tavalon]

47. Ah, then I see you are more polite than me!

LOL and I see that it wasn't at all an oops on your part. I grew up in the south and yes, I did learn how to be a civil southern lady but, well, it just didn't stick.

[w8liftinglady]

69. hehe--well,the f word has rumbled off my lips a few times...today

[RC]

21. The solution:

Government controlled, Single Payer, Universal health care for the people of the United States IS covered by the Constitution, because the relative health of our citizens does affect the 'general welfare' of the Nation. 45,000 dead people a year are proof the profit driven, privately run systems that we have in place now are not working to provide the necessary health care for our nation.
How can our present private health insurance system, with its many insurance companies, each with its own way of doing things, its own highly paid management, its own attention to the bottom line for its share holders, its own claims requirements, its own forms for submitting claims, etc., be more efficient than any government controlled single Payer system, with its single set of rules and forms?

[w8liftinglady]

25. excellent

[Lifelong Protester]

54. I recc'd your other post on this RC, because I agree with you

whole-heartedly.

[Kurovski]

22. K&R

That's the ugly reality. Including early illness, cancers that are brought on in the young at an escalating rate.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

26. K & R

[Vinca]

31. Thanks for your post. I feel very badly for this lady who doesn't deserve

the hand she's been dealt in this "the greatest country on the planet." Everyone should have access to care whenever they think they're ill and not have to worry about losing everything they've worked for all their lives to get treatment. We need single-payer and not this idiotic insurance scheme that will still make decent coverage unaffordable to millions of people, even with the subsidy. I don't know why this is so difficult for the powers that be to comprehend. It makes me furious. I swear if I get a terminal illness before I'm eligible for Medicare, I'm going to park my carcass in front of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and die on the street.

[raccoon]

53. Here's why this is so difficult for the powers that be to comprehend that:

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" --Upton Sinclair

[Vinca]

70. Ain't it the truth.

[prairierose]

108. You got that right and they make sure that ...

they can not understand. My youngest brother died of cancer at 48 because here in the "greatest nation on earth" we do not have universal health care. My next brother worked for one of the largest corps in the world and had good health insurance, until he became disabled. When they laid him off because of his disability, he lost his health insurance. One of his benefits was long term disability insurance but the insurance company go tired of paying that so eventually they said he wasn't disabled and stopped those checks. He had already lost his health insurance. He applied for SSDI for the second time. Eventually got a hearing and was turned down. So he reapplied and was accepted because the time had run out so they would not have to pay him the back pay from when he had originally applied. (It would have been 5 years back SSDI payments). Now he has medicare and still can not really afford the health care he needs. He needs 2 knee replacements but the 20% co-pay is not gonna happen with income of $1000/month.

I work 2 or 3 jobs, none have benefits, I can't afford health insurance at the rates they charge.

When I talk about this with people who have insurance, they go on and on about what a great system this is. It is great if you have money, lots of it. We are all one layoff/one diagnosis away from bankruptcy and disaster and we have few advocates.

[totodeinhere]

32. I thought that everything was OK now that HCR has passed.

:sarcasm:

[Skidmore]

33. Don't be a fool.

Much of it has to be actually implemented and there is room to revise and amend it. HCR is not the problem as far as I'm concerned. Reread my original post and look at my comment further downthread.

[totodeinhere]

81. Yes, HCR is the problem. If they had enacted single payer to go in effect immediately like I

advocated, people in the situation you described would be getting all of the care they needed now. You are right, much of the ballyhooed HCR has yet to go into effect, and that in and of itself is a crime.

[Matariki]

35. Speaking of, just got something from Move On about potential slashing of Social Security

disgusting.

[Skidmore]

56. I received that thing they mail around about the amount of benefits you

will receive if you retire at whatever age. The age referred to was not 62 or 65 even, but 66. Retire from what if you are unemployed or a housewife? No one hires older people anymore.

[Hannah Bell]

36. "Let us refuse to lay down and die for these bastards"

here's to that, kr

[bdamomma]

105. most definitely, and agree.

:thumbsup:

[maryf]

39. You are collateral damage for the wealthy and the powerful

yep, can't have sick folks cutting into the profit base...kill capitalism before it kills us all...

[nannah]

41. sad & true that we are merely collateral damage

to the w & p; ironically, so are the teabaggers, skin heads, christian fundamentalists, and other not wealthy, uninsured people who are curiously aligned in the right wing political sphere.

[maryf]

45. yep...

if we could get all the people to realize that we are all collateral damage, regardless any persuasions, we'd have some power against the elite...

[nannah]

62. yes. shaping to issues in inclusive ways

helps this people find points of connection. Structuring the issues in emotionally laden, highly divisive terms is no accident.

[GrannyK]

40. A friend and peace activist who died recently refused to

go to the hospital until someone, called 911, just a few days away from her death. She had emphysema so bad she could not talk, but she refused to go to the hospital. She lived hours away from most of her friends and family.

The reason she refused to go to the hospital: Because the hospital would put a lien on her house and it was the only thing she had to leave to her sons.

But at least the hospital was able to help her enough that she could talk a little before she died.

She was too young for SS and Medicare, the doctor she went to just kept her supplied with pain pills and inhalers and to apply for Medicaid, she thought, would require medical recommendations that she did not have.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

42. and if you do have any money, please spend it all trying to save yourself

thank you.










just in case::sarcasm:

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

43. I too am uninsured

and it is really hard to put it out of my mind, but I have to.

[me b zola]

44. K&R

[me b zola]

46. K&R

[TBF]

50. 3 words - universal health care. nt

[Lifelong Protester]

55. I'm sorry for what this person is going through. And even sorrier

that the story is not unique. That we live in 'the greatest nation on Earth' but these kinds of situations are all around us, with the clear message that we are not worthwhile but to be cogs in the machinery of capitalism...

I particularly liked this part of your writing:

We need the poor, the working class, and the middle class to get off of their asses and make certain that what little means we are able to squirrel away is not taken from us. Let us refuse to lay down and die for these bastards.

I am reading right now a book of compiled letters to Jackie Kennedy ("Letters to Jackie: Condolences from a Grieving Nation", edited by Ellen Fitzpatrick) and am reading the section on politics and society and the president. In it are several letters from black leaders, and just regular folks, who wrote to thank the president for his work on civil rights. What Fitzpatrick writes, however, as a prelude to the letters, is a short sketch of really how reluctant Kennedy was to get involved in the civil rights issue, and really accused of going too slow. The march on Birmingham, the sit-ins, the children's 'crusade', all of these things brought the president around to see the civil rights issue as something he had to address, a moral issue.

I say we are again faced with a moral issue: the treatment of the poor, the elderly, children (I don't want to get started on the whole Dept of Educ. fiasco that is RTTT)... and we need to get off our asses.
And our president must lead the way.

[LaPera]

58. "If you are poor - please die quickly" Unless you're working for corporations paying slave wages

Then work until you drop!

[woo me with science]

60. K&R Thank you. nt

[malaise]

61. We're as useful to them as ants

Dispensable people - they don't give a damn.

[burnsei sensei]

63. I would call this massive social indifference

and slaughter a form of social genocide.

[BrklynLiberal]

64. It may not have been said in seriousness, but sadly that IS the repuke health plan..DIE YOUNG.

[Skip_In_Boulder]

65. I sometimes wonder if health care in America is

more of a culling process than anything else right now.

[Skidmore]

101. It's not just health care that is being used to cull the herd, but

the way employment is not being offered to those in the +50 age group at the same time the safety net of SS is being ripped from under them. And recall, that any other retirement monies for the group are tied up in the stock market scam devised during the 90s and have had large chunks syphoned off by blatant scamming in the finance and banking industries. The Boomers were a large generation and I believe there has been a calculated consideration made by those who hold power and those who finance them that the easiest way to hold onto their wealth and solve a problem is to make certain that there are not enough living and breathing people out there who require sustenance or care in their later years. It is a sick and cynical institutionalized policy.

[Skip_In_Boulder]

111. Tell me about it

I am one of those 50+ people who's careerer is now over.

[Cleita]

66. So many sad cases like this.

I'm really angry at how the ordinary American was sold down the river on access to health care, regardless of ability to pay, not only by the obstructionist Republicans, but even by many of our own Dems. I hope everyone who suffers and dies because they have no access to decent health care haunts them every time they go to sleep.

[glitch]

71. When the time comes, I intend to haunt. nt

[X-ram_K]

73. This is one of best articles Ive read on the subject/ 1st post :) hi all!

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_6096.shtml

"Crunch the numbers. There are 365 days in the year, 24 hours in each day, so the year comes out to 8,760 hours or 525,600 minutes. That nets each person out of the 45,000 yearly casualties approximately 12 minutes in which to tell his or her story.

Twelve minutes in which to tell the story of a life slowly squeezed out that need not have been; 12 minutes to talk about the months, sometimes years, of pain, the grinding misery, the shouting and the crying and the pleading for help from a deaf and unheeding system, the refusals of vitally needed medication or procedures, the slow disintegration of hope, the sour odors of blood and urine and soiled sheets, the gradual setting in of resignation and despair. Until you realize that although your story does not matter, your suffering and your death are not matters of indifference to those who hold your fate in their hands. Those medications you do not receive, those surgical procedures that you are told are experimental or unnecessary and that your insurance will not cover, the limitations on how many doctor’s visits are allotted to you regardless of your needs and condition -- all this is not happenstance. You have not fallen through the cracks. The system works -- very well, in fact; it’s just that it does not work for you, because you are not the one it is seeking to benefit and serve. What happens to you happens because someone cares deeply -- no, not for you, dummkopf, but for how much the denial of your care is worth to them. Fear not -- you do have a place in the system -- you and millions of others. You’re fodder, manure, shit for the money tree to flourish. You, and those millions of your comrades, cannot be allowed to have even those 12 minutes wherein to compress all the misery and horror of your individual stories. Once in a while, a Real News Network or a Grit TV or a Michael Moore might come along and grant one of you a few minutes of airtime. With luck. Otherwise, feel free to suffocate and die in your piss and your disease and your silence. Your death is necessary. Remember that money tree you’re helping along?"

[butterfly77]

75. Kicked&Recommended!

:kick:

[Crunchy Frog]

76. Don't worry. My A&P teacher assured me that we have

the greatest healthcare system in the world.

[secondwind]

77. K&R!

[Desertrose]

78. K&R. I can't afford insurance either....

yet the State says I make "too much" for them to help me.

Ha. "Too much". That's such a joke.

[WillyT]

79. HUGE K & R !!!

:cry:

:grouphug:

:wtf:

:mad:

:kick:

[JackDragna]

82. My sympathies for you and your family.

You have what America has become pegged.

[NBachers]

84. John Boner wants to kick the retirement age up to 70

With any luck, most people will die before they get to tap into that SS Gravy Train.

When it's finally obvious that death is going to take it's course, just send me home with an IV of heroin and a little dose button so I can live out my last days in peace, comfort, and dignity.

[seattleblue]

86. The rulers of this country learned a great lesson in 1983.

Congress raised the Social Security retirement age from 65 to 67 in that year and no one raised hell. Now they know they can just keep on creeping it up and they have little fear of protest.

[Liberty Belle]

88. So sorry. My ex-business partner is dying too....it took months to get tests ordered

and by the time they found 3 kinds of cancer it was too late. So wrong...he's native American but Indian healthcare isn't what it used to be due ot budget cuts...eventually went off-res and found out he has lymphoma, pancreatic cancer and prostate cancer. Pancreatic is usually deadly in months.

He was acting really bizarre for months...that's the reason he's an ex-partner....now I realize he's been riddled with cancer, and I think it's also in his brain though not diagnosed. He was losing vision in one eye and kept saying his head hurt on that side acting erractic, paranoid, really strange stuff, but nobody would ever do a Cat-Scan of his brain.

I feel terrible for him; it's wrong for people to be treated this way in America.

[Soylent Brice]

89. can't stop fighting. if you do there is no one else that will.

We all need to have this mentality.

[white_wolf]

90. This is Bullshit!

I mean what the hell is wrong with us that we let people die because they can't afford health care? We have so much wealth in this country and we can't use some of that to establish a decent health care system? For heaven's sake even Saudi Arabia has a universal health care system. Do we really want to be more backwards than a theocratic monarchy run by sharia law? I swear Antony Wiener is right every single republican is a wholly owned subsidiary of Corporate America.

[olegramps]

98. Every Republican is the enemy of the Republic.

[bdamomma]

107. of course, they have theirs, and damn the rest of us.

[earcandle]

91. I second that motion, and I offer you this: Use Language, not explosives, to get your needs met.

[patrice]

92. K & R

[patrice]

93. Here's a BIG coalition with Alan Grayson in it and a bunch of others: READY TO ACT:

http://www.fightwashingtoncorruption.org/?rc=fb&t=1

[The Midway Rebel]

94. k&r

God help us all in the fight against insurance companies and big pharma.

[kath]

95. SINGLE. PAYER. NOW.

[Anakin Skywalker]

100. Yeah! This Thread is Rec'ed!

[dkf]

103. If they raise social security to 73 most will have to work till they die.

Retirement is a luxury.

[lonestarnot]

104. Despicable!

[Karmadillo]

106. Obama says we get single payer if we help the Democrats take back the White House and Congress!!!

Let's do it!

http://www.alternet.org/health/139959

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In 2003, Obama said he supports a single-payer health care system, and that the only reason we "may not get there immiediately" is "because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House" - which, of course, we have:

"I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program...I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that's what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that's what I'd like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House." - Barack Obama, 2003

[kath]

110. Hey - no fair! That was CANDIDATE Obama. Now we have President Obama -- a different entity

altogether.
:banghead: :banghead:

[BonnieJW]

109. Isn't it ironic

that the Teabaggers keep saying they want their country back without realizing who really HAS their country? We want it back too, from the corporations, bankers, military industrial complex. With very few exceptions, everyone in Congress and the current administration needs to go. We need to elect an army of Alan Graysons, Bernie Sanders's and Dennis Kucinich's to the Senate and the House. We need to elect a White House with those people as well and that White House needs to appoint an entire cabinet of Elizabeth Warren's. Our Supreme Court needs to be comprised of Judge David Souter's and John Paul Stevens's. Then and only then will we get our country back. Will it take a revolution? Perhaps. A bloodless one? Hopefully.

[Blue_Tires]

112. well said

too late for me to rec...