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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:20 PM
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Orange people aren't very bright




from thinkprogress:



Deficit Frauds Boehner And Pence Can’t Answer How Tax Cuts For Wealthy Will Be Paid For


Today on NBC’s Meet the Press, House Republican leaders John Boehner (R-OH) and Mike Pence (R-IN) had a tough time answering host David Gregory’s questions about how they would pay for extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.

Gregory asked Boehner to respond to former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan, who said last week that extending the tax cuts without offsets would be “disastrous” and that they do not pay for themselves. “The only way we’re going to get our economy going again…is to get the economy moving,” was all Boehner could muster in response. Gregory repeatedly pushed Boehner to answer how they would paid for, but the Minority Leader simply wouldn’t respond:

GREGORY: You’re not being responsive to a specific point which is how can you be for cutting the deficit and also cutting taxes as well when they’re not paid for?

BOEHNER: Listen, you can’t raise taxes in the middle of a weak economy. (…)

GREGORY: But tax cuts are not paid for is that correct?

BOEHNER: I am not for raising taxes on the American people in a soft economy.

GREGORY: That’s not the question. Are tax cuts paid for or not?

BOEHNER: Listen, what you’re trying to do is get into this Washington game and their funny accounting over there. …

GREGORY: Do you believe tax cuts pay for themselves or not?

BOEHNER: I do believe that we’ve got to get more money in the hands of small businesses.


Later in the program, Pence ran into the same trouble:

GREGORY: This tension that I got out with Leader Boehner. Republicans want more tax cuts seems to me he acknowledged that they’re not paid for and yet at the same time they want tax cuts but they’re so worried about the deficit. How do you resolve that tension?

PENCE: Well I think the way you resolve it is you focus on jobs. …

GREGORY: But congressman, you’re asking Americans to believe that Republicans will have spending discipline when you’re saying extend the tax cuts that aren’t paid for and cut the deficit, how is that a consistent credible message?

PENCE: Well I understand the credibility problem. …

GREGORY: You acknowledge, tax cuts being extended cannot be paid for, it would be borrowed money.

PENCE: Well no I don’t acknowledge that. … I think it’s apples to oranges.


Watch it: http://thinkprogress.org/2010/08/08/pence-boehner-tax-cuts/

The reality is that extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy will cost $830 billion over the next ten years and the Republicans — who have made bringing down the deficit one of their signature issues — have no idea how they will pay for them.


http://thinkprogress.org/2010/08/08/pence-boehner-tax-cuts/



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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:24 PM
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1. The answer is they CAN'T because they WON'T end their wars,
and it's all Republican fucking snake oil anyway and I STILL can't even believe there's debate about this. Let the goddamned tax cuts expire and shut the fuck UP!! Jesus Christ, I cannot believe this is even an ISSUE. The tax cuts did NOT FUCKING WORK. They bankrupted the country. What's to get? Reaganomics was bullshit on it's face. These two idiots should be punted.
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:32 PM
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4. How in the hell do they find so many stupid people who believes their lies?
Right wingers are stupid.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:33 PM
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5. agreed, I see the problem as the "fuzziness" where we want to extend some and not others
Edited on Sun Aug-08-10 06:34 PM by Motown_Johnny
so people who don't pay attention closely get confused and just want a bumper sticker answer.

IMO the talking point is that the Bush tax cuts will definitely expire because they destroyed the economy, period.


We should then be talking about a new round of Democratic (Obama) tax cuts for lower and middle income families, taking effect the day after the current ones expire and expanding on the earlier ones already passed by this administration.


The bumper sticker should be, we are cutting taxes and here is the bill.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:38 PM
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8. + 10, 000 n/t
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 07:47 PM
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12. Agreed n/t
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:27 PM
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2. The GOPers are Scamming America with unsound decisions and principles
spun into empty language....
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:30 PM
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3. The Oompa-Loompa Anti-Defamation Society will be calling you... n/t
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:36 PM
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6. His tie and his face are the same color.
:)
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:39 PM
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9. He has a way with coordinating accessories
Don'tcha think?
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:37 PM
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7. The tax cuts for the rich gave them trillions and only 1 million jobs created in 8 years!!!
Is their ANYONE who are leaders in the democratic party who understand math and can debunk republican lies?
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:44 PM
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10. If tax cuts create jobs, WHERE are the damn jobs?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 07:13 PM
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11. "Well I understand the credibility problem.................."
Well, that's encouraging!

Its' about the only sign of an IQ over 70 in the entire interview.

I think Boehner has boiled his brain in alcohol, but I couldn't swear to it as a fact.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 10:15 AM
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13. Wow...I have heard of matching tie and suit pocket handkerchief, but...
...matching face color and tie??? That's a new one!

:rofl:
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