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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 08:02 PM
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'Were You Born on the Wrong Continent?'
http://www.huntingtonnews.net/columns/100807-kinchen-columnsbookreview.html

In his latest book, "Were You Born on the Wrong Continent? How the European Model Can Help You Get a Life" (The New Press, 336 pages, $25.95) Geoghegan asks his readers if they really believe the propaganda that the U.S. is the greatest place to live on earth, balancing job security, health care, life expectancy and time off for good behavior to have some fun.

His conclusion, based on five trips where he tries to understand so-called European socialism firsthand, is that we're not the best place for middle-class people. First he tries France (which has become a rhetorical stand-in for the continent as a whole in many Americans' minds), but he eventually ventures into Germany to see what some call the "boring" Europe. He says the French model is flawed because workers don't have the advantages of Germans, with a say in the company's future, and are constantly striking. Germans, with their powerful unions, rarely go on strikes because they have a real voice in their employment.

In Germany, Geoghegan finds the true "other"—an economic model with more bottom-up worker control than that of any other country in the world
— and argues that, while we have to take Germany’s problems seriously, we also have to look seriously at how much it has achieved. Social democracy may let us live nicer lives; it also may be the only way to be globally competitive. His anecdotal book helps us understand why the European model, contrary to popular neoliberal wisdom, may thrive well into the twenty-first century without compromising its citizens' ease of living — and be the best example for the United States to follow.

OK, some facts about Germany, the largest economy by far in the European Union and the fourth largest in the world, measured by gross domestic product per person (GDP), with a thriving export-oriented manufacturing sector -- like the kind we used to have when we manufactured goods that were desired around the world.

Germany, with 83 million people and few natural resources, is the world's second largest exporter, with $1.170 trillion exported in 2009. You know who is the largest exporter and it ain't us. Hint: It begins with C and ends in A. and has more than 1.3 billion residents. Germany's service sector contributes about 70 percent of the total GDP of Germany, with industry another 29.1 percent and agriculture less than 1 percent. Most of the country's exports are in engineering, automobiles, machinery, metals and chemicals. Germany is the world's leading producer of wind turbines and solar power technology.

Geoghegan tells us that the average number of paid vacation days in the U.S. is 13, compared with Germany’s 35. New mothers in the U.S. get three months of unpaid job-protected leave and only if they work for a company of 50 or more employees, while Germany mandates four months’ paid leave and will pay parents 67% of their salary to stay home for up to 14 months to care for a newborn. U.S. life expectancy is 50th in the world, compared to Germany’s 32nd.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 08:04 PM
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1. Yes. nt
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 08:13 PM
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2. If only the US were not so brainwashed into the "not invented here" syndrome. I can't
see us having vaguely a similar system. The wealth and power is so on the take and entrenched in the US. Of course, if the economy here slides further, maybe the zombie factor of our citizenry will wake up.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 08:21 PM
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3. Interesting.
My wife is German, our daughters are both, and they both loved living in New York, one just moved back
to Germany to take a well-paying job, and blurted out that while she would like to live in New York
again, she would like to raise her kids in Germany.

We are now on our annual summer vacation in New England. While my wife enjoys it here very much,
she is still not interested in living here permanently (nice place to visit, etc. etc.). Either
way is fine with me, but I wish my homeland was more appealing to her, in case I want to move
back some day.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 08:21 PM
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4. I do appreciate the perspective.
My experience living overseas is rather limited but when I lived in Germany I was struck by many of the aspects of the lifestyle at that time, which is to say in the 1980s. People in general seemed to be thinner and more active than their American counterparts.

I noted too that a university education did not involve shelling out huge sums of money for tuition. It was a real eye-opener.

Americans are so used to hearing their own country praised to the skies, and that's overdone, and when I was overseas I noticed Europeans and others weren't a bit shy about criticizing my homeland, often harshly, and a lot of that was overdone as well. But in the main I think like a European -- everyone ought to have health insurance, a secure retirement, affordable child care, etc. Unfortunately, as the health care debate showed, here we have people who think medical care is a privilege (See Rep. Zach Wamp's comments) or that a patient's first consideration ought to be cost (See Sen. John Barrasso's participation in the talks at the White House).



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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 08:25 PM
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 09:09 PM
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6. But but but ...... Trickle Down Economics can't be wrong
Edited on Sun Aug-08-10 09:10 PM by FreakinDJ
Ronnie RayGuns said so...

and Ronnie led his personal crusade to Stomp Out Evil Unions once and for all the SAVE Amurika
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 09:11 PM
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7. I am sick and tired of war. Give me a country that manages to live w/o war and I'm in.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 09:37 PM
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8. As I understand it, Bangladesh hasn't had a war since it's been on it's own. n/t
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 09:39 PM
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9. Thinking more like Denmark or Sweden or Canada
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 09:48 PM
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10. All fine countries, but if I'm not mistaken, all have sent troops
to either Iraq, Afghanistan, or both.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 09:55 PM
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11. And how many of those troops have they lost? Trillions of dollars? Hardly.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 10:04 PM
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12. So you're not really looking for a country that manages to live without war.
Just one that doesn't get too involved in one.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 10:32 PM
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16. Switzerland comes close
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 10:33 PM
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17. The UK has better maternity leave than the USA
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 10:09 PM
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13. Looks like you're moving to Germany
America is the most warlike aggressor state in the world. All in service of our corporate masters and the military industrial complex.
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 10:15 PM
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14. I Love America
I will stay here and fight.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 10:26 PM
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15. YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES and YES! nt
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14thColony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 10:59 AM
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18. Yes, but I've since rectified that
In Europe to stay.
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