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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 03:37 PM
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So I am watching Dylan Ratigan and he has a muslim Imam and some anti-muslim
Edited on Mon Aug-09-10 03:44 PM by WCGreen
guy on the show.

Ratigan was so comfortable with the anti-Muslim guy that he addressed him by name.

This guy, "Jordan" reverted to the typical bully tactics that are always dragged out when the bullying starts. Talking over, yelling at the person to answer the question hiding behind the banner that his question is valid because he, well, says so.

In this case he was going after this Imam to declare that Humas and Hezbulla were indeed terrorist organization. Kept it up. And Ratigan jumped in the frey.

Anyway, Israel and our government insist that Hezbulla and Humas are terrorist organizations. But over the years, both of these governments have insisted that pretty much anyone who disagrees with Israel in anyway is determined a terrorist. I understand that but it doesn't mean that I have to accept it as the gospel truth.

Why, because our government has consistently lied over the years when it came to dealing with our enemies, our friends our allies.

I guess that is to be expected since nuance really has no chance when bellicosity is the norm.

So, the Imam consistently said he could account for all the money that his community has raised to build a mosque. In a sane world, that should be enough. But this ass hat kept at it, demanding that the Imam answer if the terrorist question. The Imam said it is not up to me to determine who is a terrorist and that was taken by both Ratigan and his best pall Jordan that there was probably something nefarious going on...

All I could think about was the McCarthy witch hunt, the Salem with trials and the lynchings of African Americans. Get the crowd ginned up and you can basically say or do anything and never suffer the consequence.

I don't think this is just an American or Israeli trait, I think it is something that is innate in humans who gather into societies.

I just though that since we have been in this situation since th dawn of time we would be getting away from the mass hysteria people purposely gin up just to attain a goal.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 03:40 PM
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1. I can't stomach Dylan Ratigan
His dumbassery and hostility outpaces any redeeming qualities he might possess.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 03:41 PM
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3. Yea, I usually don't watch this stuff but I just happen to catch it....
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 03:47 PM
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6. I took a peek
He was hosting a reasonable panel discussion on immigration/anchor babies and then...

"Coming up: Michelle Obama. Should she be jet-setting in Spain? Appearances do matter..."

Click.

Like I said, the dumbassery outweighing pretty much everything else.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 03:41 PM
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2. Iman is married to David Bowie. Nt
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 03:43 PM
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4. So sorry...
I hit the wrong key...

It should be Imam and I will fix that...
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 03:43 PM
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5. Correctamundo n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 03:49 PM
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7. Dylan Ratigan is a phony and a poseur....and the more folks figure it out,
the better off we will all be.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 04:24 PM
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12. yeah, he's a phony because he's badmouthed that *historic reform*
That was shoved down people's throats. Basically called it what it was. Bad, BAD EVIL person for pointing out the problems. :eyes:

:rofl: :rofl:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 07:40 PM
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14. Ok Fan.......
The Crow will be good! :rofl:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 04:01 PM
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8. Humus a terrorist organization -- no, it's a tasty garbanzo dip.
;-)
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 04:03 PM
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9. While I agree with your assessment that pretty much anyone
who disagrees with Israel is deemed a terrorist, it's not very hard to make the case for Hezbollah or Hamas being terrorist groups. Having said that, if the Imam can account for all the money raised to build the mosque, what does him declaring them so matter at all? Unless he's a member of one of these groups OR they're building the mosque with the intention of raising money for these groups, isn't it completely irrelevant (with respect to the building of the mosque) whether they are terrorist organizations or not, or what the Imam thinks of them? It's just a red herring floated out there in attempt to smear the Imam with guilt by association, even though no actual association can be demonstrated.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:27 PM
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13. Donor Disclosure is the way they are looking for "terrorists" organizations
trying to make a beachhead here in the good old US of A...

that was why he was willing to show "Jordan" the books. But as far as denouncing Humus and Hezzbula, it really is irrelevant to a religious organization attempting to build a center of worship.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 04:08 PM
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10. It was talk radio personalities that incited the Rwanda genocide.
Talk tv and radio are trying to incite genocide against Muslims.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 04:18 PM
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11. We have indeed been doing this since the dawn of time...
And in the most primal way we are still living in that cave.

I guess since that tactic works so well, we keep on using it. Maybe we can't help ourselves...

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