I talked to three of my Democratic neighbors this morning.

[tridim]

The discussion was about Romanoff's loss, but I decided to ask their opinion on Gibbs' statement from yesterday. To my surprise, none of them even knew what I was talking about. After I explained what he said, they basically responded with, "So what?" and agreed that it's not an issue that is worth fretting about, especially right now. In hindsight I kind of felt bad for even bringing it up.

These aren't passive voters, they are all Democratic activists, and most definitely Obama's base by strict definition.

Has anyone else talked to real-world Democrats (outside of DU) about this issue? It might provide some good perspective.

[moksha]

1. Well, there you have. Your anecdote should put this to bed.

:eyes:

[tridim]

2. Have you talked to your real Democratic friends yet about the issue?

[moksha]

4. Yeah, they weren't surprised.

They have been paying attention to the direction this administration is taking this party. To the right.

[tridim]

7. Why did you initially respond to my post without mentioning that?

You're not fooling anyone.

[moksha]

51. Neither are you , sweet ums.

:rofl:

[Scurrilous]

3. None of my neighbors are Dems.

@#$% Miami.

But I checked the NYTimes and Miami Herald front pages this morning and saw nothing about Gibbs.

:shrug:

It's a huge deal here on DU. Elsewhere not so much.

[joeybee12]

6. Try the Internets and Cable Noise...that's where stories like these get HUGE play...and why

Press secretary, really appears to know little about how the press functions.

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. It's all over Facebook too

[EFerrari]

17. Is there a consensus?

I didn't bring it up to anyone yesterday except for here.

[proud2BlibKansan]

50. Most of my FB friends are lefties

And they're all pretty pissed off.

[Scurrilous]

43. Nothing on the front page of google news.

Ditto w/ yahoo news.

Gibbs 'famous quote' kerfuffle is fizzling fast...


:P

[Morning Dew]

5. I spoke to a friend who had been in the woods for a week

and told her about Gibbs' remarks.

She replied, "Fuck Gibbs".

I guess you're two up on me for now...

[tridim]

10. Tell me exactly what you said.

And exactly what she said.

Thanks.

[iamthebandfanman]

16. just curious as to why u even asked people

if you are going to question and rake over anybody who replies?

[tridim]

24. I want to know how the info was framed in his real-life situation.

It has not been framed accurately on DU since minute one.

[moksha]

52. lol!

Poor gibbs and poor boot lickers.

[Morning Dew]

21. My anecdote was as vague as yours in the details

except she actually did say "Fuck Gibbs".

You're still two ahead.

[tridim]

25. What did you say to your woodland friend that drew that response?

[Morning Dew]

29. You first. How did you frame it to your "so what" neighbors?

As far as I can tell, you're not looking for any response here that might differ from the response you got from your neighbors.

[tridim]

30. I repeated the transcript.

[Morning Dew]

42. I told her

that Gibbs said the "professional left" won't be satisfied until we have Canadian health care and eliminate the Pentagon. And that they wouldn't be satisfied if we had Kucinich as President.

And she said, "Fuck Gibbs".

I can only assume that she thought Gibbs was speaking about her.


Still, she may have actually agreed with Gibbs and it just came out wrong. "Fuck Gibbs" is pretty vague.

[tridim]

45. "I can only assume that she thought Gibbs was speaking about her"

Yep, that is the whole problem.

Did you explain to her what "professional left" really means as defined by Gibbs and Moore, or did you just let her assume it was her without providing any additional information? After all, she was in the woods for a whole week, how could she possibly know?

[Morning Dew]

46. In repeating the transcript to your neighbors

did you explain to them what "professional left" means as defined by... blah, blah, blah.

Since this brouhaha just hit yesterday morning, she was a whole 9 hours or so behind the Gibbs news.

Look, you just seem to want your anecdote to "count".
It does.
But it wasn't my experience.

[tridim]

47. We talked about it briefly as the conversation was wrapping up.

No spin was applied, by me or them. That's a good thing.

Please report back if you talk to anyone else about the issue. The more real-world anecdotes we have here, the better.

[Touchdown]

8. I talked to 3 friends last night. 2 knew about what he said

... and they're pissed. The third didn't believe it, and will probably just make a new jug of Kool Aide and find an excuse for it when she finds out it's true.

Are you single? I can hook you two up.

[tridim]

12. They're.

[Touchdown]

15. I answered your question.

Be an adult about it.

I'll fix the typo. You fix your attitude.

[SammyWinstonJack]

18. ...

:thumbsup:

[tridim]

19. Pointing out spelling mistakes is not an "attitude"

It is pointing out spelling mistakes.

[Touchdown]

23. You are correct. So is mistaking definitions.

Pi and Pie are two different things. Your sig picture is erroneous. Take it down or be labelled an idiot!

[iamthebandfanman]

20. the OP never wanted an answer..

if youll notice, the OP has attacked anyone who has answered..

so it begs the question,

why ask the question if you dont want answers?

[Touchdown]

26. I know. I shattered his fantasy and he attacks my possessive pronouns.

Go figure.

I even offered to set him up on a date!:wtf:

[Steely_Dan]

9. Funny You Should Ask...

I spoke with one of my Dem friends just yesterday. I thought I was pissed off at Gibbs and the current Administration. This guy was nearly out of control. He feels completely betrayed and has lost all confidence in his party. He stated that it will be a long time before he trusts any politicians.

By the way...he has never heard of the DU.

-PLA

[DainBramaged]

11. If they didn't know I cannot believe they are activists

Even the Pukes here at work are busting my balls about it. I just got asked if I wanted Canadian health care instead of our medical plan.

And I can't wait till the resident Freeper gets in for the late shift.

[tridim]

14. They were busy with the campaign yesterday.

[quinnox]

22. I talked to a former republican friend of mine

He became a Democrat because of disgust with the idiot Bush's presidency.

We didn't discuss Gibbs but he agreed with me that Obama blew it with the health care reform (he thinks it was too wimpy and not a bold enough change), and that he is not happy with Obama overall either.

[FSogol]

27. It is August. No one in my office had her of the whole Shirely Sherrod debacle.

:shrug:

[jillan]

28. We all decided we were part of the professional left - they all knew what Gibbs said.

[Dogtown]

31. Anecdotal evidence, tridim.

You've been around long enough to know that it's valueless.
Multiple reported "events" of this type will certainly *not* "provide some good perspective."

All this OP is providing is a platform for propaganda.

[tridim]

33. The DU freakout over the past 24 hours is also anecdotal evidence..

of uhhh, something.

At least in the real-world people tend to be more honest about things.

[Dogtown]

34. Ah, so you had an agenda all along!

Why so coy about it?

Have the courage of your convictions and make a statement, instead of this passive/aggressive game.

[tridim]

36. Talking to my neighbors is an agenda?

WTF are you talking about?

[Dogtown]

57. No.

Pretending that your "conversation" is valid and promotes your point of view is what I object to.


"I was talking to my cats this morning & one of them licked his balls when I mentioned 'tridim'..."





;)

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

32. I talked to my wife last night and her analysis is that Robert Gibbs is a "professional" asshole.

And, she is a "real world" Democrat who is not subservient to the dictates of "The Party" and always votes.

[zipplewrath]

35. Everyone I knew spoke of it almost immediately

Everyone I spoke to found a way to do the whole "hey, did ya hear what Gibbs said" thing. Probably all drive home listening to the same NPR station.

[tridim]

38. How did you respond to their questions?

[zipplewrath]

44. I said I had heard it

We all thought it was a dumb thing to say, and just more evidence that the White House uses the left as a punching bag.

[Davis_X_Machina]

40. in 1972, Pauline Kael...

...couldn't believe Nixon won, because no one she knew voted for him.

[Individualist]

37. I slept at a Holiday Inn last night.

:eyes:

[tridim]

41. Awesome.

[K8-EEE]

39. I live in L.A. so most people I know are Dems

I don't find anybody outside DU freaking out about this.

[Scurrilous]

48. Deadly floods in Pakistan, landslides in China..

...an ex-US Senator dies in a plane crash.

Yawn.

An offhand comment by the President's Press Secretary?

OMFG!!1!

DU is a special place.

[K8-EEE]

54. Agreed, Scurry

I'm WAAAY too through with the whole non issue!

[myrna minx]

49. So again, you have nothing to worry about if we're so irrelevant.

Since we don't contribute to campaigns, phone bank, door knock, drive the elderly to the polls etc (or so I've read here) and since we are such a small minority and not 'real world' Dems who cares? :shrugs:

[kiva]

53. And don't forget that - no matter what we say - we probably

never voted for Obama anyway. :eyes:

[K8-EEE]

56. More bored than worried.

Can we start some kind of an Endless Gibbs Freakout forum for those of us who wish to discuss other things?

[NJmaverick]

55. Yup more people need to get out more

Too many people here "live at DU"

[ThomWV]

58. I'd move into a better neighborhood - your neighbors are clueless

[snooper2]

59. I had a conference call with a couple thousand Dallas dems last night

23% said Fuck Gibbs, 18% said Fuck Snooper, 40% said Fuck your SO, and the other 19% said Fuck DU :P