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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 05:06 PM
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Jesu, Ed, no president can create jobs. The business community needs to invest.
Why are you not screaming at those business investors who have their fists clutching their profits rather than investing in this nation? Congress has a role, yes, but legislation can only go so far. The wealthy in this nation are extorting the public so they can pressure to keep the * tax cuts. Please, oh grand poobah of the Professional Left, start calling these people on this.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 05:10 PM
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1. Then people need to stop talking about all the jobs gained in the Clinton administration
And the jobs lost under Bush. Since Presidents have nothing to do with it. :eyes:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 05:13 PM
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2. and this administration should stop taking credit for jobs *created*
If the president cannot *create* jobs.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 05:15 PM
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3. What would you call the WPA and CCC under FDR?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 05:20 PM
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6. I guess FDR wasn't a president.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 05:15 PM
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4. No, The President Cannot, But Congress Can
The congress can create jobs any time it wants.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 05:18 PM
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5. He has daily but they have no patriotism or obligation to what's right
They are not fixing to be shamed into hiring and increasing demand.

You are a slave to a secular religion. The tax code can be used as both carrot and stick. The government can direct hire. The banks can be nationalized so that capital can be infected. Speculation can be hobbled as a profit center. The no interest gravy train can be stopped until ball is played.
Regulators can squeezer balls.

The Justice department could potentially be more detail oriented for the non-cooperative.

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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 05:37 PM
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7. They are trying to
break us so that they can get more work for less money.See you can go into the fancy pancy appliance store and get one of those deluxe model washer and dryer and pay 1800 dollars for the pair.Now its coming from god knows where probably with shipping and labor it may only have cost maybe a couple of hundred dollars to make and bring to you the consumer. But instead of having it made here in the good old U.S.A. and paying an American worker fair wages and benefits, and taking less of the profit,big corp wants it all. Because much as a new washer and dryer cost you can't tell me you can't pay an American worker a fair wage to make it. And that goes for a lot of products that we use.They also want us to let them go on stealing from us. They are saying if we can't keep our grubby little hands in your pockets we won't hire.So they want us broke, busted, and disgusted.But if you know like I do we will be at the polls in November.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 06:04 PM
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9. My washer and dryer was made in the next village over.
Now I can't vouch for the components, but I do know exactly where it was made.
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:52 PM
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13. the washer dryer thing
was an example. Maybe I should have used televisions:9 :9 :9
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 05:52 PM
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8. Actually, this President should create some jobs -- start a govt. program to rebuild
our nation's infrastructure -- our bridges, tunnels, highways, etc.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 06:06 PM
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10. Yes, the president can, and he should
It's worked before quite well - which is why the Repubs fight it.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 06:11 PM
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11. Certainly a president can create jobs,
Edited on Thu Aug-12-10 06:11 PM by MadHound
Or were those jobs created by Roosevelt with the WPA, etc. simply figments of our imagination?

The government could start investing in repairing and upgrading our infrastructure, which sorely needs it and would create jobs.

The government could start investing in green energy, which would help eliminate future Gulf disasters, oh, and create jobs.

The government could help fully fund public education, instead of attacking it, and that would create jobs.

There are many good and needed projects that the government could invest in, and they would create jobs. Sure, in one, two, three years, those jobs would disappear, but in the meantime you would be circulating money out into the economy, people would be spending again, which would boost sales in the private sector, and thus create jobs.

To put this all on the backs of corporations is simple economic ignorance. A company isn't going to ramp up production unless the demand is there. By putting people to work, the government would put money in people's pockets, who would then go out and spend it, creating a demand and forcing the private sector to hire people.

A corporation's primary concern is the bottom line. They are not going to produce jobs when demand isn't there, not out of the kindness of their hearts. That's where the government is supposed to step in, helping out we the people.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 08:02 PM
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12. Does your president
propose, pass, and sign tax legislation?

Propose, amend, pass, and sign into law spending bills?

Can he override a filibuster whenever he wants?

Is he constrained by current laws, including the Constitution?

Or can he issue executive orders to revise and promulgate new statutes and grant himself statutory authority?

Can he seize property and dispose of it as he sees fit, simply because he's decided he should have the authority to do so?

No? Then the president cannot create jobs. He's constrained to promulgate policy, as authorized and funded by Congress, to create a favorable environment for job creation.

Yes? Then I want to go someplace where there's not an all-power dictator running the place and what's done is good or bad depending upon his mood and personal wisdom. Maybe Zimbabwe?

FDR did what he was allowed to. His leash was long. He was able to influence Congress. But at least he preserved the illusion of separation of powers at the worst of times.
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