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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:26 PM
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It's not at "ground zero" - it's 2 blocks away. n/t
Edited on Sun Aug-15-10 12:27 PM by rucky
EOM
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:27 PM
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Make that 2 city blocks.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:30 PM
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3. What's the distinction between a city block and a regular block?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:17 PM
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18. If you don't know, I'll assume you've lived in one type of population center
Edited on Sun Aug-15-10 01:23 PM by Skidmore
and never have been in the other. Or you believe all Muslims are evil.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 02:30 PM
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24. City blocks are larger, quite a distance down each side.
Walking two blocks in a city is not a quick walk (particularly in a city the size of NYC).
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 02:36 PM
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26. Of course, to Sarah Palin the site is mere 'steps' away, LOL!
I'm waiting to see one of our New Yorkers actually count the number of steps and post it here...
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:27 PM
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1. "Ground Zero" is gradually being redefined as "Sol's gravity well." (nt)
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:29 PM
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2. shhh, that would ruin the hate propaganda that mostly repukes are trying to incite
The Democrats should defend the Constitution, and make republicans hang out to dry for this deliberate attempt to spread hate and prejudice between Muslims and non-Muslims

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:31 PM
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4. I'm pretty sure most of the country and many on DU think it's the WTC site.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:35 PM
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5. Of course, because that is what the so-called media has been telling them /nt
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Duckhunter935 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:39 PM
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6. close enough
that part of the plane damaged the building
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:44 PM
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7. Also "ground zero" is not "sacred ground" whatever the hell that might be.
After all they are planning to build another obscene sky-scraper on it, so, really, how sacred is that? Commerce apparently is sacred (duh!) but some cultural center TWO ENTIRE BLOCKS away is somehow in violation of the sanctity of this particular patch of ground? There are numerous nightclubs in the area as well. Am I supposed to believe these are not a violation of that "sacred ground" while a mosque somehow is? This whole thing is just so much bullshit.

This center, from what I understand, is planning on occupying an empty department store. THAT certainly isn't sacred ground, even though in a country that worships Wall Street perhaps it really is sacred.

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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:46 PM
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8. I seriously wonder...
exactly how far away from the WTC site it would be OK to have a Mosque.

Three blocks? Four blocks? Four and a half blocks? Four and 3/5 blocks?

How about the people wanting to build the Mosque start out on the other end of the country and gradually keep moving closer to the WTC site and then stop when the crazies start to feel the hair on their backs rise...

Said sarcastically, of course...

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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:14 PM
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16. Temecula, CA is not far enough away
There have been protests against the mosque site there, as there have been at sites in Murfreesboro, TN and elsewhere.

Proposed mosques anywhere in the U.S. are being deemed objectionable, no matter how far away from Ground Zero. The only difference is that at these other sites, the "hallowed ground" objection disappears in favor of a list of OTHER objections.

The notion that it would be okay if "they" would just "build it somewhere else," not so close to Ground Zero, is ridiculous, as the protests at other sites--even on the opposite coast--demonstrate.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:16 PM
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17. +1
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:47 PM
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9. How did you know where my ex lives?
Or were you referring to something else?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:50 PM
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10. 2 City blocks away and yet the media still does not speak
of this location, in detail..
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:50 PM
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11. last time I checked Muslim Americans died right along side Christian Americans on 9/11
It's not like these Terrorist gave a crap about their victims religion.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:54 PM
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12. And I'd be willing to bet that
many of the same people who don't want a Mosque two blocks away from the WTC site wouldn't even bat an eyelash about asking for a church right on the site itself.

blech
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 12:56 PM
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13. You must be mistaken. Sarah claims it is but mere steps away. n/t
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:01 PM
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15. She knows it's the Capitol of Russia, which she can see from her toilet n/t
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:56 PM
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22. Right - several thousand steps.....nt
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:00 PM
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14. If the site were 2 MILES away, would it make any difference?
I think not.
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 05:42 PM
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30. "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise,
we don't believe in it at all."
-- Noam Chomsky
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:22 PM
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19. Thank you. nt
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:23 PM
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20. It was damaged by the debris so in that respect one could say its GZ.
Be that as it may it is quibbling to assert that it is 2 blocks away. GZ is simply shortform to indicate it is in close proximity to the site of 911.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 06:00 PM
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33. It's quibbling to assert that it's GZ.
That's the area that's been cordoned off for nine fucking years. The WTC site is where people are imagining the center would be, and the media isn't telling them any different. It's no accident they're saying this - it stirs more emotion (and hatred). It's really important to make this distinction.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 06:59 PM
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34. A suggestion:
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:41 PM
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21. So what?

If those folks own the building, and if this is America, then they can worship anything they want.

Period.

It doesn't matter if it is ON ground zero, NEAR ground zero, or whatever. I'm certain the First Amendment applies everywhere in the US.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:57 PM
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23. It is also to be a community center, like a YMCA , but I guess that's not as evil....nt
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 04:25 PM
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27. My only question is "Is it fun to stay at the Y M M A?" n/t
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 05:36 PM
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28. Imagine a sort of Muslim Villiage people......or not......nt
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 02:31 PM
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25. Thank you for that information. I didn't know that.
My bad for believing what they said on the news.
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 05:38 PM
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29. EXACTLY!
It's the white wing who want us to believe it is at the world trade center site.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 05:56 PM
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31. I wonder what the cab fare would be?
Edited on Sun Aug-15-10 05:56 PM by rucky
To get from the actual ground zero to the proposed community center. Knowing that, there could be a better way to frame this.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 07:03 PM
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35. The most recent assertion is that debris and dust
touched the building making it part and parcel of the "sacred space." :rofl:
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 06:00 PM
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32. The facts do not matter
Edited on Sun Aug-15-10 06:01 PM by LatteLibertine
it's another distraction and ploy the GoP want to use to divide us.

Their real agenda is the continual concentration of money and power upwards to a small very wealthy minority. Or that is the preservation and promotion of the status quo at the expense of the overwhelming majority of our citizens.
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