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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 02:53 PM
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I Was Asked To Repost This - "Expectations"
I think that many people gave President Obama the benefit of the doubt very early even when he was making appointments that (even you might agree) were questionable at best. However, when the road that Mr. Obama was (is) on continued to raise even more questions, many of us began to wonder if we were being hoodwinked in the name of bipartisanship...an approach that smacked more of naivete than a sophisticated political strategy.

Yes, Congress is a major factor. However, the President has a bully pulpit. And for whatever reason, he has not successfully articulated a message that matches either literally or figuratively the speeches he gave during the campaign. The soaring rhetoric of the campaign which emphasized hope and change gave many of us the courage to say...Okay, one more time. It took a while, but now I believe him.

I can only imagine how some feel after giving so much to the President during the campaign only to see so many Bush policies continue taking our country down the wrong road. Okay, so some had unrealistic expectations. But can you blame them after the kind of campaign that Mr. Obama conducted. For many, that campaign now sounds more like a "sales" job appealing to our desire to "believe." Disappointment is necessarily tied to expectation. Is there any doubt that the author of our expectations was (to some extent) Mr. Obama himself.

In the President's defense, much of the fever during the campaign had a "life of its own." It became something even bigger than Obama himself. However, while he stated that it would take time, the "hope and change" mantra continued right through November.

There is a sense among some that what was left by the previous administration is so devastating that no single person could correct the ship of state in a mere 18 months. This is reasonable to consider. However, there is another school of thought that says what was left by the Bush administration is so devastating that only quick and decisive action commensurate to the problems we face is required.

It is my belief that people on the left (especially those who would frequent this board) are passionate about their beliefs. "Passion" runs hand-in-hand with being impatient...I'm one of those. I don't feel like we have the time to negotiate with the RW in the name of cooperation. The problems are too deep.

Many would love the rest of us to look at what has been accomplished in 18 months. And indeed, we should not discount the fact that some progress has been made. I "try" and remind myself of that everyday. However, some would argue that the progress that has been made is somewhat hollow. There is nothing worse than a half-ass attempt. It just doesn't feel right. It is analogous to how I feel towards the Repugs. There is very little that I agree with (policy-wise) with my friends on the Right. However (and this is important), I KNOW where they are coming from. I know what to expect from them and I am not surprised when they side with corporations to the debt of the rest of us. What angers me (and I believe many others) is when our own party does not act like the party we have supported and sacrificed for. This is far more devastating than anything the Right could do.

Because the President didn't grab the message right at the start and let the RW frame the arguments (which is just simply beyond my understanding), Mr. Obama has now been made out to be a Marxist, Socialist...the most Liberal President in history...etc.etc. Well...if the RW has successfully convinced the wingnuts out there that he is as extreme as they say, then you might as well make bold strokes towards what is fair for the "people" of this country and not bow to the right cowering and shaking at every Fox News report.

I will try and be patient. I will try and understand that what I thought would happen with Healthcare didn't happen, but someday it will. I'll try and understand for now, that it is still okay to listen in on my telephone conversations. I'll try and put behind me the fact that we committed horrible war crimes and no one was brought to justice. I'll give it go to accept that banks received bailout money with little or no regulation to insure that the money (at least a crumb or two) would make it to the people. I'll try and accept my new role on the "radical left" when it wasn't that long ago, I was considered just a Democrat. I'll try and give my "new" Democratic friends the time they need to show that they have not abandoned the essential planks that have served the Democratic Party for decades and made us the Party of the People.

-P
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 03:00 PM
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1. Patience?
We will win.... if.... if enough of our fellow citizens merely begin to try and understand the history that got us here, and what future possibilities America holds for all freedom loving people around the world.

And then they vow to take an active part in the progress.

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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 03:03 PM
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2. I don't care if he takes any actions, I just want him to talk like he still
supports the same causes as I do, and that eventually he will get to it. Just talk the talk, that is all I want...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 03:09 PM
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3. They made FDR out to be a Marxist, Socialist, Communist
Why does this stuff keep baffling you people? This Is What They Do.

You either help them or fight them.

You don't create another pack of lies yourself, the way the left did against FDR in the 30s.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 03:12 PM
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4. Is this a previous OP or a post in another thread?
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 04:02 PM
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6. Sorry...
I was asked to repost this.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 04:11 PM
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7. Don't be sorry
I was just wondering, if it's a previous OP, why not kick the old one?
If you were asked to repost it, that's not your fault.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 03:20 PM
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5. I never noticed Bush pushing for climate change legislation, ending the Iraq War, and regulating
every aspect of the economy including banks, credit cards, and mortgage lending. So I disagree that we're seeing many Bush policies continued or that we're being taken down the wrong road. And yes, I know the two or three that always get trotted out.

Torture investigations are ongoing so your assumption about no one being brought to justice is premature. Bush dispersed the bank bailout money before Obama required more public disclosure and started getting the money paid back.

I'm not feeling betrayed or disappointed by Obama. It's pretty obvious that the Senate has been the source of our biggest failures.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 04:12 PM
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8. I would feel better if I felt that "ongoing" torture investigations would eventually
lead to Bush/Cheney. But they wont. I would feel better if there was any explanation on the delay of DADT. It shouldnt take this long. And does the Pres enjoy the powers of the Patriot Act? He hasnt said one way or other. I would feel better if I thought that some day the Pres would end the Bush policy of domestic spying.

I agree that Pres Obama has done a lot, but not enough to turn around the assault on our American democracy.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 04:49 PM
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10. You're making an assumption.
Edited on Sun Aug-15-10 04:49 PM by Radical Activist
I don't think we'll know if the investigation leads to formal charges against Bush/Cheney until Congress sees the results of the investigation.
Obama said DADT would be repealed this year and he has never given any sign of backing away from that.

There are civil liberties issues that need to be dealt with beyond Obama rescinding the Bush torture policy. But taking a few issues and turning it into a blanket statement that we're seeing a general continuation of Bush policies is grossly inaccurate. I guess we agree about that.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 04:40 PM
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9. The main things I fault Obama for is
his bipartisan crap. He got struck down over and over he knew they didn't' want it but he cut bills and everything to please the republicans. he didn't take OUR SIDE. And he isn't forceful enough it telling congress he wants what he promised the people he would do.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 04:52 PM
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11. Bills got watered down
because we needed the votes of conservative Senate Democrats. In fact, some bills only passed because Obama got a few Republican votes to make up for Democrats who voted against it. The problem isn't that Obama reached out and showed the country how obstructionist Republicans are being. The problem is conservative Senators in our own party.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 05:20 PM
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12. I don't think it was unrealistic to expect Obama to end Bush policies. nt
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