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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 08:22 AM
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Have you figured it out yet?
Here we are in the silly season and the news is mainly on vacation and politicians are dragging out mindless crap for trial balloons to be used for the elections. Just look at some of this silly shit. Changing the 14th Amendment, Social Security, and where you build a community center.
Of course the whole point of the far right and groups like the Tea Baggers is to make corporate owned politicians palatable to the great masses of voters because they suck a little less. The fascists of America fund these things not because they are viable but because the move the definition of the center over to where they want it. Do you really think anyone outside of a few nuts cares what you do with your genitalia or your reproductive system? Attacking Social Security allows our "heroes" to keep cutting benefits through a phony cost of living adjustment called COLA. The same with the latest attack on Government salaries. Postal and government employees have bee shackled to this Cola crap for years as their real earning power decreases. Now our "heroes" can tell these people he saved them from worse. It's all a fraud and there is no two party system-just a bunch of stage actors going through their rolls and getting reelected for their performance.
Yes, I keep voting but I often wonder why.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 08:28 AM
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1. It's Kabuki Theater.
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 08:38 AM
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2. Sounds about right.
And a lot of people here constantly fall for it.
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VioletLake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 08:39 AM
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3. "Tragedians" to be precise. nt
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 08:41 AM
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4. Yes I have had it figured out for awhile.
Edited on Mon Aug-16-10 08:58 AM by RandomThoughts
The people in power have bought into the idea that they have no choice, and can not do anything but what the system arranges.

In other words correlations occur to create perceptions, because there are people in some positions of information dispersal that think like that.


Or to make it more clear, to get monetary power, you have to agree to follow something that says, you can have more if you think you are better and are willing to hurt people for that thing. (some people can get money without making deals by not making money most important, so it is not everyone with money, it is people with money power)



It really is obvious, things work through people, and the more you do not do what they say, the more you learn about them, and the more they try to make you do something. And those that do what those things say, get special things like luxuries, and are told not to care about the people hurt.


Basically the concept is that there are three views, everyone is 'puppets' 'pets' stuff like that, or some people are to get many people under the control of the puppet masters. Or people are puppets when they choose to be that way.

So you either go along, or struggle against what is wrong. And quite simply, the fact that you can say and do what you want, even when their is a struggle with it, shows they do not have control, but can influence a person.

the primary goals is a world system of control, and despair, where people do not matter.

If you believe that is real existence, you can get some things and treated like a 'good little pet' If you deny them your respect of followship, you don't get much from that side. Although there is a side that doesn't ask for anything.



It is also a contrast of some people given much advantage, and the idea of no partiality. If you look at the idea of the triangle and the V you have different views. One is a hierarchy of control where you obey the thing on top that thinks itself superior and best. Although some people think that thing is God, and think God is bad, and then call you a rebel.

The other view is helping people below you and their being many people on top. In that view people think it is the thing that wants to create the bad hierarchy as the rebels, and those helping people as what pleases God.

It is the same two doctrines that are in almost everything. Get in line, do what you are told and submit to being a slave to some ideology, or do what you think is best and want to be, and get the ire of parts of the system in that slavery.


Although it does not matter to me what form the system is if unacceptable, and I just post what I think, and occasionally have some fun with concepts within that. People could say I am puppeted also, and I do sometimes go with not the best choices, but I also many times go with the better ones. Long story.

The two views is everyone is a puppet, resistance is futile you will end up doing what they want no matter what. That is one side.

The other side is you make your choices, and changes to environment around you try to make it look like correlations to create despair.

If you know something is going to happen, is that because you make it happen, because the thought was put in your mind to get you to think you know what will happen, or because you think something then something close is made to happen to get you to think you do something.

I don't do anything, because I know I don't do anything. And until things are corrected I continue to do nothing, and have not claimed to do anything, since I am owed from before already.

Although what other people do is there choice so that does not bother me.



To make it more simple, some think 'the worldly system' is the final state of God's plan, and that Jesus and ideas of equality are the rebels.

Some people think the idea of the saints losing till the return of Jesus is the good side, and the system is the rebels against God's order of loving and equality in things that is being created from the fallen system of control.



You either think the world is correct as it is, and that is God. Goldman's view. Or you think the system is flawed and in the process of being fixed, even though it is difficult since the 'wrong structured parts' have to be rooted out.


That is also why I do not associate what many think of as rebels as rebels, since rebel contains the idea of what they are against and for also.


Basically the status quo thinks ideas of Buddhism and Christianity ideas of equality is the rebels trying to overthrow their heaven on earth were they have been given special treatment, by helping a hierarchy of things that give rewards or special treatment.

I have been offered money, women, cults, government positions, private sector leadership. All I had to do was be mean. I would not be mean, and did not want a position by some deal. I am still offered deals all the time, the Count of Cristo was actually a deal offer, once again turned down. But anyways, that is how I have it figured out. And that offer smoked out an anarchist in my view.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 09:02 AM
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6. It should be noted.
By 'system' I don't mean any organization, or any economic or political group but an ideology.

The ideology of some people being better and picked to have more and make the hard choices to hurt people, because those people mean less then they do, or are suppose to be in bad places.


It is the idea some have that heaven and hell are on earth, and that allows them to have, and then think some should not have and not have empathy about that.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 09:01 AM
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5. You're right
I see no reason to go on, think I'll just kill myself now and get it over with. Unless we get lucky and a giant meteor kills us all first.

Oy.

Julie
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 09:30 AM
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7. Democorps...Republicorps... Goldman Sachs owns every politician
Nothing is going to get done unless it benefits the Banksters.

Goldlen Rule: "He who has the gold makes the rules."
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 10:08 AM
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9. "He who has the gold makes the rules." That's why the
Edited on Mon Aug-16-10 10:09 AM by Cal33
Neocons keep on robbing the middle-class. And that's why the middle-class should
fight more to get their money back. It will weaken the Neocons.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 12:42 PM
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10. You have figured it out.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 09:59 AM
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8. I keep voting because eventually it makes them have to go to the effort of stealing it.
And someone, someday, somewhere, maybe in my state, will investigate their shenanigans and prosecute. If I don't vote they'll have no reason to steal it, no cause to be investigated.

And, should I be wrong about the rigging (but I don't think so) I vote because there are a few good people fighting in Congress and I don't want to leave them hanging.
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