Another literary masterpiece from Chuck Norris

[marmar]

from the good not-at-all-hateful Xtians at the American Family Association:




Chuck Norris
Obama: Muslim missionary? Part 1

Date: 8/16/2010 10:16:27 AM


Unlike any other time in U.S. history, our First Amendment freedoms of speech and religion are in jeopardy. As if recently passed "hate-crime" laws and a politically correct culture weren't bad enough, now our president is using international pressure and possibly law to establish a prohibition against insulting Islam or Muslims.

Let me remind us how we got here.

Speaking for most founders in his day, John Jay, America's first chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, appointed by George Washington himself, said, "Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers."

Two hundred years later, President Obama has already denied America's rich Judeo-Christian heritage before the eyes and ears of other countries, as he publicly declared in Turkey on April 6, 2009, for the whole world to hear: "We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation."

Then there was Cairo in June 2009, when President Obama vowed to establish "a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world … I also know civilization's debt to Islam. … I also know that Islam has always been a part of America's story. … And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States. … So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed."

He goes on to say, "That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn't. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear." ...........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147497521

[muntrv]

1. Anyone got the link where the founding fathers say the US is not a Christian nation?

ON Edit: Here's one!
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/yellerpup/7

[immoderate]

3. Look up Treaty of Tripoli

Since it was adopted by the Senate, it has the weight of law.

--imm

[Chulanowa]

4. Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli

http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/treaty_tripoli.html

[JuniperLea]

5. Here's another reference...

Treaty of Tripoli, ratified by the U.S. Senate in 1797. Article 11 states: "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility , of Mussulmen ; and, as the said States never have entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/feature/2009/04/14/christian_nation

[hobbit709]

13. And after President John Adams read it to the Senate it was approved.

Unanimously.

[JuniperLea]

2. K&R to share the burn... eom

[immoderate]

6. Chuck is defending (part of) the First Amendment.

What a fucking idiot!

--imm

[RaleighNCDUer]

7. What part? you mean his unsubstantiated strawman that the government

if going to make speaking ill of Islam a crime?

It won't happen, was never proposed, and it would be a gross violation of both free speech AND freedom of religion. Freedom of religion also protects the ridicule of ANY religion and its adherants, Chuck and the fundy Xtians included.

Chuck is defending something that doesn't exist except in his poor kicked-in-the-head-too-many-times brain.

[foxfeet]

8. The Germans have a word for that one-kick-to-the-head-too-many syndrome:

beklopt. And Chuckie is definitely beklopt.

[immoderate]

9. Yep. That part.

I know it's all silly. I thought it was cute that he was using one clause to nullify another. Confession: I thrive on irony.

Disclaimer: I did say he was an idiot, and I didn't take the trouble to carefully note what I would call "the ravings of a loon." Did I miss something? I mean, it's Chuck Norris! :shrug: Fire meet crowded theater.

Consider the story of "The Pretzel."

An American Olympic wrestler had made it through to the final round, and was about to face the Russian champion. His coach prepared him. "You have a good chance kid, unless he gets you in his special hold that's called The Pretzel. Once he applies The Pretzel, it's all over, no one has ever escaped it."

"Gotcha coach. Watch out for The Pretzel"

The American wrestles the Russian, holding his own, and then the Russian gets him into The Pretzel. The coach, fearing the inevitable, turns and walks away. Suddenly, he hears a blood curdling scream, and turns to see the Russian fly through the air and land on his back, to be pinned by the American.

Later, the wrestler said, "I was OK, but he suddenly put The Pretzel on me, and I thought it was over. Through the pain, I opened my eyes, and I saw a pair of balls -- right in front of me. I gathered all my strength, and bit down hard on those balls."

"And that made the Russian let you go?"

"No, but you'd be surprised how strong you become when you bite yourself in the balls!"

Reading this about Chuck made me think about this story. Hope you liked it. :)

--imm

[hootinholler]

10. ROFLMAO! n/t

[struggle4progress]

11. The hate-crimes legislation, that Chuckie is so upset about, interferes with free speech thusly:

it sometimes makes it an aggravating circumstance (in various assaults/attacks) to be motivated by racial or religious or ethnic hatred

For some reason Chuckie is all upset that he could do extra prison time for planting a bomb if he also happened to brag that he had done so to teach some dark-skinned folk a lesson

Maybe Chuckie's been kicked in the head once or twice too often, cuz I suspect most Americans frown on planting bombs and wouldn't really regard that as a free speech issue

[CBGLuthier]

12. Carlos is crazy.