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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:49 PM
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Thoughts on Ground Zero "Victory Mosque" Controversy
Edited on Wed Aug-18-10 09:16 PM by LiberalVoice
http://blog.zakebrahim.com/

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One ridiculous argument that is floating around is that this controversy somehow further politicizes 9/11 (That ship sailed a long time ago). As if politicians and the media haven’t used that tragedy to promote every talking point imaginable. Legions of religious zealots decried the Cordoba Institute for bringing all this attention back on those who lost loved ones on 9/11. They propagate the notion that somehow building the Islamic center is an affront to those who died that day. They choose to ignore the victims who are Muslim and/or aren’t opposed to the construction. However, even if it does somehow offend those who lost loved ones on 9/11, it still doesn’t give anyone the right to decide which people are allowed which freedoms. Those who lost loved one that day share a horrible burden. They have every right to their feelings, but no one has the right to subject those feelings on other people.

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Those blinded by fear and/or ignorance of Muslim culture (on the count that most don’t actually know any) say this “Victory mosque” would be a trophy for extremists. Continuing the meme: Islam =Terrorism. That somehow allowing people to freely practice their 1st Amendment rights is exactly what the terrorists want. You see signs held up by protesters saying things like “Build churches in Saudi Arabia!” I guess they think America should be more like a religious theocracy. Religious extremists the world over have many things in common…but this controversy points out one thing in particular. These oppositionists think they deserve the power to suspend (or not provide in the first place) the right of anyone who’s ideology isn’t in line with their own. When it comes down to it the religious zealots in America have more in common with their extremist “enemies” in the Middle East then they do with the vast majority of Americans.



Zak


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Scullystrouble Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 09:13 PM
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1. I really like the point you made at the end. n/t
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 10:01 PM
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8. Thx.
Edited on Wed Aug-18-10 10:11 PM by LiberalVoice
:hi: Welcome to DU!
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Scullystrouble Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 09:14 AM
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9. I'm mostly a troller but...
...it amazes me who you sometimes bump into on DU. :)
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 09:17 PM
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2. Another made up MSM distraction that will not make people forget they have no homes and jobs,
The GOP is still scared shitless that if people vote with their pocket books they will will vote Democratic.

Dems need to be all about "jobs, jobs, jobs" even if the MSM will not give them coverage. Get the unions to help pay for coverage.
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 04:56 PM
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10. Great points.
I'm afraid to think of the turn our economy might take if republicans take the majority in Nov.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 09:20 PM
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3. when did the idiots start calling it a "victory mosque" (apart from the fact that it isn't a true
mosque, amoung other things).
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 09:28 PM
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5. I've been hearing it thrown around all last week.
Mostly red in the face tea party members railing about how the terrorists(whatever that's supposed to mean) in the Middle East are celebrating their "trophy" in downtown NY.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 09:38 PM
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7. guess I haven't missed much then, haven't heard the news much.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 09:28 PM
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4. It makes me angry when the people who oppose the community center
talk about 9/11 victims' families as if they were all of one mindset about this. Have they been polled? I also wonder where all the people who express such concern about the victims' families were when it was discovered that material containing victims remains was used to fill potholes in lower Manhattan. I don't remember this much outrage when that story came out a few years ago.

Here's a link to an article about it:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/03/24/2007-03-24_911_remains_fill_potholes_worker_claims.html
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 09:32 PM
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6. Wow
I'm shocked I hadn't read that article before. How sad. Thanks for sharing.
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