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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:27 AM
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Unemployment Ready To Push Above 10%
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Unemployment Ready To Push Above 10%
Posted: August 20, 2010 at 6:27 am


There is precedent for American unemployment to move about 10% and remain there for a protracted period. It did so in 1982 and 198.3 for ten consecutive months. That is about to happen again, probably by October or November, and there is very little the federal government can do about it other than to assist citizens with tens of billions of dollars more in unemployment insurance.

The most visible sign of the jobless problems is weekly jobs claims which rose above 500,000 last week for the first time in ten months. That is, however, not the most important indicator.

The recent CBO review of the federal budget was telling. The headline from the study was that the deficit might move down a tick from previous forecasts. The critical footnote was that GDP growth the rest of this year and next will be only 2%. That number does not have to slip much to be 1% or worse. The forecast will have a profound effect on the deficit, if it is true. It will have a more profound impact on jobs. Companies will not hire in a stagnant economy and are more likely to fire out of concern that stagnant moves to negative. The government may finally take austerity measures, which means that federal employees will lose jobs.

Consumer confidence and manufacturing data are also moving flat or down in many recent months. A strike in consumer spending based on job fear will ruin the holiday shopping season. That will set off a vicious cycle in the retail industry, and layoffs will look like they did during the holiday season two years ago. Those retailers that can hold their own will do so at the cost of margins which leaves them very little better off than stores that lose sales.

Another prevailing wind that will hurt jobs prospects in America is that the Japanese economy is barely out of recession and may be heading back toward negative growth. There has been some optimism about economic activity in Europe, but when the improvement in Germany is backed out, the balance of the region still looks financially troubled. The Administration has bet that much of the GDP recovery in America will come from exports and the jobs that exports create. The process gets less likely by the day.

The last bit of glue that was supposed to hold the jobs market together was the $787 billion stimulus package. It has been pointed our often that most of that money is spent. The portion that is left is for infrastructure spending and that cash is tricking into the economy rather than flooding in.

There is nearly nothing in the American economy that points toward a drop in joblessness and an abundance of reasons that it will grow.

-- Douglas A. McIntyre


http://247wallst.com/2010/08/20/unemployment-ready-to-push-above-10/#ixzz0x90N09Lk




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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:30 AM
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1. Recommend
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:40 AM
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Can we get
an 11?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:45 AM
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:40 AM
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2. Depressing but necessary reading
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:43 AM
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3. "A strike in consumer spending ..." doesn't striking require political purpose?
Was this some kind of Freudian-slip indicating how Wall St sees itself in opposition to consumers?
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:53 AM
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10. Bingo!
We have a winner!
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:52 AM
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5. This is much, much worse than 1982-1983
Clinton jiggered the unemployment number calculations to make himself look better. If we measured today using the same methodology as we did in the 1980s, unemployment is above 20%:

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:52 AM
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6. This is much, much worse than 1982-1983
Clinton jiggered the unemployment number calculations to make himself look better. If we measured today using the same methodology as we did in the 1980s, unemployment is above 20%:

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:52 AM
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7. This is much, much worse than 1982-1983
Clinton jiggered the unemployment number calculations to make himself look better. If we measured today using the same methodology as we did in the 1980s, unemployment is above 20%:

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:52 AM
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8. This is much, much worse than 1982-1983
Clinton jiggered the unemployment number calculations to make himself look better. If we measured today using the same methodology as we did in the 1980s, unemployment is above 20%:

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 07:11 AM
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12. OK, OK, we get it......
:P
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 07:14 AM
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13. DU glitch (which doesn't happen often) nt
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:52 AM
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9. "there is very little the federal government can do about it"
Bull.

There is very little the federal government is willing to do about it.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:58 AM
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11. +1
If it worked as hard to help us as it worked to help bankers (in a way that preserved record-high bonuses), then we'd be in much better shape.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 08:47 AM
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14. How about admitting the truth, Crisis of Globalization(Trade Policy_
Pull a FDR, admit our country has to essentially start over
from scratch. We must invest in our future or become a Third
World Banana Republic.

Continuing to let it appear the Financial Failure caused
all these job losses is a disservice and makes our situation
worse.

The reason Businesses are not hiring. They have adjusted
their businesses recognizing American People will be making
much lower salaries. You can give them taxcuts until taxcuts
come out of their ears---they are not going to hire if they
do not have customers who can afford what they are selling.
This is why the Republicans will make things worse and cause
further contraction in the economy.

At some point one of the Parties is going to have to stand
up and tell the truth, try to engage the people in rebuilding
our country. Instinctively I believe the TeaPartiers know
this but prefer to remain in denial. They would have to admit
Tax cuts are not always the remedy. We need an industrial
policy , which provides a mfg base for this country and
FAIR TRADE POLICY. We have built China in to strong position
--It is time to take care of our own country. Do not yell
Protectionists. If preventing America from becoming a Third
World Nation is Protectionist--then call me protectionist.






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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 02:34 PM
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15. Time to change the way we count unemployment again.
Damned if I know how we can possibly weed out any more people than already have been, but I'm sure they'll find a way.

Perhaps we can claim everyone that lives in a state where McDonalds or Wal-Mart had a job fair that didn't attend doesn't want to work, therefore they're not really "unemployed". I bet we could get it down to 2% or so that way.
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