Texas Board of Education member: Women didn't win suffrage - men GAVE it to them

[derby378]

If we listen to such folks as former chair of Texas School Board member Don McLeroy, we are told that majorities have given minorities power and that men have given women the right to vote

Today is the 90th anniversary of Tennessee ratifying the amendment which would give women the right to vote.

But to ever say that those in power allowed or gave any rights is disingenuous and inaccurate . This was a movement waged by women suffragists that fought long and hard for this right, not what McLeroy and others seem to imply is a privilege.

http://www.burntorangereport.com/diary/10670/men-gave-women-the-right-to-vote-another-gop-myth-debunked

[uncommon]

1. They are right.

Sorry - I don't like it either, but no matter how hard women fought, they weren't getting jack without men signing off on it. Unless they were prepared to start killing people.

:(

[SargeUNN]

2. Yeah like King George GAVE US the United States

You are buying into crap. Women worked hard, took abuse, and earned their right to vote. The men were forced to accept this right of women and it wasn't out of their kind hearts. You need to learn the difference.

[uncommon]

Excuse me, I will not be talked down to like that.

I have been studying feminism and women's issues for my entire adult life, and I know what I am talking about.

No one said anything about "the kindness of their hearts" and no one said women didn't work their asses off for the vote - what I said was, women wouldn't have gotten it without men signing off on it, and this is 100% true.

The colonists fought a brutal and bloody war to oust their British rulers and form this country - they literally forced them out.

Women fought, but the right was still gained, ultimately, through the dictators, not by ousting them.

[el_bryanto]

9. I think it's a matter of terminology

Woman always had the right to participate in their own governence, as did blacks, native americans, and so on. The fact that the state, run by white males, denied them the opportunity to exercise these rights doesn't mean that the rights didn't exist. That's the nature of inalienable rights.

Bryant

[SargeUNN]

13. sorry but you have to deal with it

You made your statement and I replied to it. If you don't like my reply then sorry you don't see how far off your statement was.

[seabeyond]

4. ya... because women fought for it and men came to agree with women. that is fighting

for our right, not men "giving" it to us.

[uncommon]

6. Most of them still did not *agree*

I'm not saying there was no fight here, but the right to vote was signed off on by the very men who were dead set on denying it. Women had to get their oppressors to give them the right. This isn't a matter for debate - it's just what happened.

[seabeyond]

7. but that is true with ALL things when one group has power. it dismisses all the work and fight

and struggle. without that, the men would not have signed off on it.

[EstimatedProphet]

11. What you're describing is the opposite of men giving sufferage to women

It's 'giving' in the same sense that the Axis 'gave' Germany to the Allies.

[SCantiGOP]

3. interesting article in the Smithsonian magazine

Said the temperance movement and women's suffrage were intertwined. The Prohibition proponents wanted women to vote since they would be more anti-alcohol than the male population.

[depakid]

8. and they could be militant, too

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hXxNyxkBBwY/Sb8YVPhErnI/AAAAAAAAAdo/pOTxg_RxS88/s400/Carrie+Nation.jpg

[ensho]

5. somebody cut Don's tongue off and chain him to his kitchen table

what a punk

[EstimatedProphet]

10. Well of course men gave it to them!

How could they have put the time in to fighting for it when they were all busy birthin those babbys and cookin up dinner an readin Good Christian Woman's Fashion magazine?

[elleng]

12. What's the matter with Texas?

THIS is!!!

[no_hypocrisy]

14. That's redundant. If women didn't have the vote pre-19th Amendment in a ,

particular state, then only men could vote for the institution of that Amendment, giving women suffrage.