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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 05:49 PM
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I'm Getting Tired of the Whole "Mosque at Ground Zero" Story.
I'm Getting Tired of the Whole "Mosque at Ground Zero" Story. It's Just Republicans Looking for More People to Hate.

Submitted by BuzzFlash on Fri, 08/20/2010 - 12:20pm. Guest Commentary
MARC PERKEL FOR BUZZFLASH

I'm getting tired of the whole "mosque at Ground Zero" story. It's not a mosque and it's not at Ground Zero. And it shouldn't be political because the First Amendment gives religious freedom to all religions and no politician can do anything about it. Most American Muslims are very different than many stereotyped Middle East Muslims and the reason for that in large part is because of our religious freedoms. Freedom is a good thing and I find it strange that politicians are against it.

What I see is just Republicans looking for someone else to hate. Let's hate all Muslims. And because of 9/11 they are an easy target. It's consistent with let's hate Hispanics, Blacks, Gays, Liberals, Socialists, Intellectuals, Teachers, Community Organizers, Unions, Europeans, Poor People, Hippies, Soccer, Hollywood, People Who Ride the Bus, Environmentalists, the Unemployed, Progressives, and Pregnant Teens.

And the news media is falling for it. I would rather see some coverage of the issue that the Republicans don't want to talk about. That issue is what this year's election means - the choice between do we stick with the Obama recovery, or do we return to Bush Era economics.

So maybe the corporate news media will wake up and cover something that is actually important for a change.

But that would be a miracle, wouldn't it?

http://blog.buzzflash.com/contributor/3545
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 05:52 PM
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1. so you're tired of the story but yet
you start another thread about it

:shrug:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 05:59 PM
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4. Not my words, Bro
However, the first para says it all
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 10:41 PM
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18. I ain't your bro
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 06:19 AM
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26. You got it, Cuz
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 05:55 PM
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2. If it's not a mosque but a cultural center,
is this a freedom of religion issue or a civil rights issue. Been wondering about that.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 05:58 PM
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3. But it's not about republicans...it is about families of the deceased.
It is also about societal norms regarding how to treat the grieving. I'm pretty sure this is what the middle understands.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:00 PM
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5. It wasn't an issue UNTIL THE RIGHT
made it an issue.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:01 PM
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6. I guess that's the problem with having Muslims run around free in this country
Someone may run into some just a few blocks from "Ground Zero".
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:31 PM
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9. Oh so we are outlawing all Muslims from Ground Zero? Really?
Isn't that pretty hysterical? I highly doubt most 9/11 families can tell what you are anyway. Islam is a religion, not a race. The first Muslim I met is Chinese.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 07:47 PM
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12. Some of the anti-Park 51 bigots don't want Muslims anywhere near the place
So that's the impression that I get from them
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 11:01 PM
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22. As Long As They Don't Act Muslim In Public
Edited on Fri Aug-20-10 11:02 PM by jberryhill
It's like people who are offended by gays.

Nobody would know who was gay, as long as they don't act like it.

So your point is that it is okay to have Muslims in the area, as long as they are not overtly Muslim?

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 07:50 PM
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14. So the families of the deceased are to be given
a free pass for discriminating against perfectly innocent, peace-loving fellow citizens who simply want to replace a dilapidated retail building with a community center?

This reasoning makes no sense.

They lost their loved ones to hatred. So because of that, it's just fine if they act from ignorance and further hatred?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 11:16 PM
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23. I doubt you will get an answer either.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 06:50 AM
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28. Should American Muslims be prohibited from running shops there?
Should American Muslims be prohibited from running shops there?

What happens if there are Lebanese tourists ambling about the concourse when one of those with "feelings" is there? Will s/he get a special panic button so security can clear them out?

Oh, you guys are CHRISTIAN. Funny you don't look... Never mind then, carry on. One of our sensitive people just set off the Arab Alert (TM). We have a sacred duty to check out all complaints. :rofl:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 07:58 PM
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16. What about the families of the deceased who like a cultural center promoting peace there?
What about respecting their wishes?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 10:57 PM
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20. Dkf will NEVER address that question

Nor will dkf address the family members of the deceased soldiers who gave their lives in defense of our Constitution and our committment to religious freedom.

Islam did not attack us on 9/11. If victim families cannot grasp that, they need counseling, but I will not respect their hatred.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 07:59 PM
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17. No, it's about using them as an excuse to howl about collective guilt. (nt)
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 01:56 AM
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25. Actually, I'm pretty sure this whole thing has absolutely nothing to do
with societal norms regarding how to treat the "grieving," and has everything to do with the right-wing xenophobe crowd latching on to an issue they could make political hay with.

And how well they've succeeded...

Perhaps the "middle" does see things that way, or at least use that as their justification for their opposition to the mosque-that-isn't-really-just-a-mosque. But I'm pretty sure this is one of those times where being in the "middle" is nothing to be proud of; kinda how the "middle" position on civil rights a few decades ago was to be opposed to lynching blacks but still oppose black children being able to attend integrated schools. In other words, shameful.
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harvey007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:02 PM
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7. It's a manufactured controversy
This firestorm is taking people's attention off the real issues and pitting people against each other in media-driven hysteria.

This website says the "Ground Zero Imam is a Globalist Stooge."

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ground-zero-mosque-imam-is-globalist-stooge.html

Now this fake controversy has resulted in "Democracy for America" turning against founder Howard Dean and the Republicans couldn't be happier.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0810/Dean_group_appears_to_rebuke_Dean_supports_Islamic_center.html?showall



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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:03 PM
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8. Bingo! nt
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:34 PM
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10. The republican corporate media is not going to let it go
And the stupid aholes messing their pants don't know what they are being herded into, won't stop either. It is so easy to do, you know herd, the scum, like tea bags and radical republicans. They have no conscience to begin with so they will jump on anything that flames and slurs people who don't look like and kiss corporate butt.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 07:42 PM
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11. I am tied of the whole "Ground Zero" thing, Ground Zero
used to be where a nuclear weapon landed like in Hiroshima. The WTC was bad but it was in no way even close to the destruction a nuclear weapon would have made. What is the catchy phrase for the Shanksville PA crash site Ground Zero.2 and the Pentagon what was it Ground Zero.3. It was the WTC not f----g Ground Zero.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 07:50 PM
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13. Oh come on, what's yr problem? We only "ended" a war this week that
was barely covered in the republican news of America.

:sarcasm:
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 07:55 PM
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15. These stories always fizzle out
soon, the lines will be drawn and people will move on just like the gulf and every other momentary big story. I look at it as a way to make up my mind. Once my mind is made up, I'm done arguing the issue.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 10:58 PM
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21. It's "death panels"' all over again /nt
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 10:57 PM
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19. You are right on. The GOP/teabagging pundits/politicians have to keep the hatred fresh and alive
so they suss out new (or old) groups to hate all the time. It is all about keep it fresh and their pathetic teabagging followers emotionally engaged with said pundits/politicians.
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KinMd Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 01:05 AM
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24. Exactly how many blocks in lower Manhatten are"Sacred Ground"
...so we can plan accordingly. Plus how come porn shops are ok? I already know the answer
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 06:25 AM
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27. If Connor Macleod and the other immortals are forbidden to fight there...
It's because it's sacred ground.

That's how I keep tabs.
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