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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 09:48 AM
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No Punishment for Deadly, Toxic Oil Spills or War Crimes, But a Baseball Player Faces Prison for Ste
No Punishment for Deadly, Toxic Oil Spills or War Crimes, But a Baseball Player Faces Prison for Steroid Use

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Submitted by Mark on Sat, 08/21/2010 - 9:04am.

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The famous baseball player, Roger Clemens, is not an oil executive. Therefore, the laws will be executed. If he lied about taking steroids, he will be punished to the full extent of the law—possibly a long prison sentence. This man may spend the rest of his life in prison for lying to the government. By contrast, BP Execs can kill an entire ocean and everything in it, and then sail off into the sunset making toasts to the next deepwater drilling plans in the Gulf.
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 10:00 AM
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1. Clemens should go to jail. And I'm becoming increasingly convinced that Major
League Baseball is a political institution. (cf GWB and the Rangers, the Ricketts family and the Cubs, etc.)

The oil execs and banksters should *also* go to prison. It's not an either-or.
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 10:23 AM
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4. Let me add it's a shame that the *owners* who profit from steroid-fueled players
should also go to jail. It's like the music industry... find promising young talent, make drugs easily available to them, profit as they screw up their lives, drop them when they're no longer productive. Repeat until you've made enough money to be happy.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 10:01 AM
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2. Most buisness people that hurt others are on steroids.
Edited on Sat Aug-21-10 10:25 AM by RandomThoughts
They just don't know it, because that side hides.

Although some know it.

The point is they hurt many people, and are not told the reasons.



Why did all the corporations not understand the economic crises, the oil problems, or even the wars, because they were doing what there puppet masters wanted, without thinking and feeling.

It is a cabal, not even their fault, unless they don't think and feel, and sleep through actions others tell them to do.

Hence why a hiarical system is desired by that side, the more centralization, the easier it is for limited things to control.



And for the people that believe life is a game, and can not understand Christian end time doctrine, what would happen if one group got total control, world government through cabal? The game would be over and a new world would be made. Although what is winning? And what happens to those that want control?

Although I don't think it is a game, it is possible to see the same thing in every metaphor.


Note people are made to think life is a game, so that they have no feelings when hurting people. It is about breaking empathy.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 10:04 AM
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3. Bonds has been indicted..
why not Clemens?
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:06 AM
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5. Neither Should be Facing Jail Because Congress Shouldn't be Investgating a Friggin GAME
so there shouldn't have been any hearings for them to lie at in the first place.

Congress has so many more important things to investigate than a GAME!

Real stuff. Matters of life and death. War and all that.
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:28 AM
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6. That "game" is also big business. Lots of politically-connected families with big money
involved. Publicly-funded baseball stadiums (stadia?) are a scam to steal money from taxpayers. Sports drug use affects athletes ranging from Olympians to high-schoolers. And Roger Clemens is (was) somewhat of a role model.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 03:18 PM
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7. But They Don't Question the OWNERS Do They?
That "game" is also big business. Lots of politically-connected families with big money involved. Publicly-funded baseball stadiums (stadia?) are a scam to steal money from taxpayers.


But they don't call in any the owners for questioning, do they? No investigation of the business, or how they got their stadiums, or any of that. They just go after the players and some trainers, who are merely pawns (albeit well-paid pawns).

Sports drug use affects athletes ranging from Olympians to high-schoolers. And Roger Clemens is (was) somewhat of a role model.


As long as there is so much money riding on these sports, you're never going to be able to stop this.

Congress has far more pressing matters to attend to than who is cheating at some ball game.

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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 08:46 PM
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9. Oh yes, they should definitely go after the owners. I'd be happy if they *started* with the owners.
Again, it's not an either/or.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 03:30 PM
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8. Who gives a darn about steroids?
It's the league's business and public officials have no business wasting time on this. As you said, BP Execs can kill an entire ocean and everything in it, and then sail off into the sunset making toasts to the next deepwater drilling plans in the Gulf.

I'm sick of our elected officials, no matter which party, who are participating in this pointless distraction.
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seattleblue Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 09:14 PM
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10. I can't understand why he gave any answer. Didn't he have a lawyer?
If you can't tell the truth to a federal enforcement officer or Congress you just don't answer. You don't have to answer no matter how many times they ask a question. Take the Mark McGwire route "I'm not here to talk about the past. I'm here to be positive about this subject."
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