Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Salmonella-In-Eggs Situation Gets Worse

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:19 PM
Original message
The Salmonella-In-Eggs Situation Gets Worse
via AlterNet:




Posted by Marion Nestle at 6:29 pm
August 20, 2010

The Salmonella-In-Eggs Situation Gets Worse
Posted by Marion Nestle on @ 6:29 pm


Cross-posted from Food Politics.

Judging from the number of interview requests today, everyone has figured out that the egg recall is not only awful for the people who got sick but also has something to do with our hopelessly inadequate food safety system and dysfunctional Congress.

The CDC has updated its statistics on the number of illnesses. Here’s what this epidemic looks like:



About 2,000 cases have been reported but the CDC does not yet know whether these are all related to this particular outbreak.

Here’s what’s special about this particular recall:

* Salmonella in eggs never used to be a problem until we had industrial egg production that puts hundreds of thousands of hens in close (very close) proximity.
* The company producing these particular eggs has a long history of rule violations.
* The company was not required to follow standard food safety plans. Whatever it had to do was voluntary.
* The FDA started writing rules for safe egg production more than 10 years ago. These were quashed. It finally got them done last July.
* The new safety rules for eggs went into effect this July 9, too late to prevent this outbreak.
* The FDA’s hands are tied by inadequate legislation and resources.

* The House passed legislation last August—one year ago—to give the FDA more authority and more resources. The Senate has been sitting on S.510 ever since.

The moral? Voluntary doesn’t work. We need mandatory food safety rules.

And sooner rather than later, no?



http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/08/20/the-salmonella-in-eggs-situation-gets-worse/



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:22 PM
Response to Original message
1. Salmonilla causes Eggscrutiating pain.....
Eggsactly what I dont want to get from eating eggs..................

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. There's no eggscuse for that pun.
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Eggselent post....!!!!!!
:woohoo::hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:59 PM
Response to Reply #2
15. I had an eggcellent omelet this morning.. No worries--fully cooked
;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mindwalker_i Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #1
16. This whole thing's ovablown
If people are cracking jokes, I need to get in on the action.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:24 PM
Response to Original message
3. I'm hoping this story will knock the "Ground Zero Mosque" out of the headlines
As it should given it is a more serious matter.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:29 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. But the mosque is about muslins
silly rabbit, just funnin you Bluestateguy, but serious about the rest of what I said though.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. Turned on CNN a couple of times today. First it was the "mosque" and then bedbugs.
Bush/Cheney and the Repubs in general set us back a full century as regards food safety.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #8
19. Yeah. CNN is quite upset about the bedbug thing. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:33 PM
Response to Original message
6. I got it!! I got it!! Lets just tell republicans to "go suck eggs"
you know so much truth in that saying. Give Palin, Rush, Beck and Fox the whole darn box.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. Now THAT is a plan!
:toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:37 PM
Response to Original message
7. Atlas Shrugged n/t
Edited on Sat Aug-21-10 05:37 PM by Strelnikov_
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:40 PM
Response to Original message
10. As I type this I am hard-boiling the last of my eggs from Whole Foods.
Even though they are supposedly "packed" in CA, there is no way to know where they were PRODUCED. If there's a way to confuse people and mislead them, corporations will find it and do it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:42 PM
Response to Original message
11. salmonella is endemic in chickens
and, while it is definitely worse in factory-farmed chickens, i just can't believe that salmonella was NEVER a problem in the past.

otherwise, excellent post, and i completely agree that we need safe food.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
another saigon Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #11
20. I agree
Isn't the reason mayonnaise(which contains eggs)in cold salads is considered at risk if not refrigerated?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:47 PM
Response to Original message
12. Un euf
is un euf!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. :groooaaaan:
Oh, that was bad. Tres bad.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. Isn't it oeuf?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #14
21. Oh you are correct!
My French isn't what it used to be. But then it's been 46 years.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Agony Donating Member (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 07:44 PM
Response to Original message
17. "The moral? Voluntary doesn’t work." Neither does the Senate.
" The House passed legislation last August—one year ago—to give the FDA more authority and more resources. The Senate has been sitting on S.510 ever since."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 08:20 PM
Response to Original message
18. my brand is "phil eggs"- never caged!
plus you can drive by his farm and see it`s a good place to raise chickens...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 09:09 PM
Original message
Conservatives are against recalls and government inspections.
Conservatives believe all government is evil and unnecessary, except to kill, torture, destroy and mutilate. They are against all regulations. So they would be against the FDA and any inspections of our food supply. They would let companies police themselves and since every business tries to maximize profits they would deliberately ship tainted food, like eggs, to the consumer. And they wouldn't have to worry about being sued by those they victimized because conservatives also believe in tough tort reform to limit liability to any corporation. Hell, they are probably against all laws and regulations to ensure our food is safe.

I wonder why conservatives are so radically opposed to any regulations. They must have families and loved ones who would face terrible dangers if regulations didn't force corporations to comply to certain standards. I suppose they don't give a damn about anyone, even their families who would be injured or killed by defective products or tainted foods.

In 2000, Bush the candidate said, "Businesses MUST be allowed to regulate themselves!" so according to Bush and all conservatives then businesses would be totally in charge of regulating themselves, just as BP was and just as the egg companies are. What a nightmare world we would live in under conservative rule.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 09:09 PM
Response to Original message
22. Conservatives are against recalls and government inspections.
Conservatives believe all government is evil and unnecessary, except to kill, torture, destroy and mutilate. They are against all regulations. So they would be against the FDA and any inspections of our food supply. They would let companies police themselves and since every business tries to maximize profits they would deliberately ship tainted food, like eggs, to the consumer. And they wouldn't have to worry about being sued by those they victimized because conservatives also believe in tough tort reform to limit liability to any corporation. Hell, they are probably against all laws and regulations to ensure our food is safe.

I wonder why conservatives are so radically opposed to any regulations. They must have families and loved ones who would face terrible dangers if regulations didn't force corporations to comply to certain standards. I suppose they don't give a damn about anyone, even their families who would be injured or killed by defective products or tainted foods.

In 2000, Bush the candidate said, "Businesses MUST be allowed to regulate themselves!" so according to Bush and all conservatives then businesses would be totally in charge of regulating themselves, just as BP was and just as the egg companies are. What a nightmare world we would live in under conservative rule.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 09:29 PM
Response to Original message
23. The first couple of lines make me snicker..
also has something to do with our hopelessly inadequate food safety system and dysfunctional Congress.

The CDC has updated its statistics on the number of illnesses. Here’s what this epidemic looks like


Salmonella in eggs is universally and world wide expected and always has been, at least since such things have been known,,,100 or so years. As with every single time a band wagon pulls through town, a bunch of people jump on, it happens every time, so the numbers of claimed illnesses is undoubtedly skewed. It doesn't matter where you get your shell eggs...the neighbor, farmers market, whole foods, grocery, restaurant...there are only 3 ways to be almost completely without risk of salmonella when eating eggs in the shell..

1. Don't eat eggs.

2. Cook your eggs to an internal temperature of 160 degrees.

3. Buy pasteurized eggs in the shell.

That's it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 10:15 PM
Response to Original message
24. How about the products with these eggs as ingredients?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. These eggs are fine if cooked completely.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 01:37 PM
Response to Original message
26. Not just eggs.
The entire Factory Food Production and Delivery System is hopelessly contaminated, and getting worse.


Good Luck!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 01:49 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC