Are you in favor of the Cordoba Initiative building a Community Center in Lower Manhattan?

[Dennis Donovan]

Poll question: Are you in favor of the Cordoba Initiative building a Community Center in Lower Manhattan?

I thought it was a gimme that Progressives would find the Right's rabid opposition to the Muslim Community Center being built 2 blocks (and completely out of sight) of the former WTC site abhorrent. After I posted this, I'm not so sure.

With that in mind, are you in favor of the Cordoba Initiative building a Community Center in Lower Manhattan near the former WTC site?

[xchrom]

1. Yes, I have no bananas. Nt

[Vincardog]

2. WTF does it matter what I think? People's RIGHTS are NOT up for a VOTE. If the RW bigots have a

problem with it they can STFU and eat it.

[Dennis Donovan]

5. I posted the poll merely out of curiosity...

[steve2470]

3. Other: First Amendment trumps all ..... nt

[Dennis Donovan]

4. Can you elaborate?

The right has their 1st amendment rights. That's not what I asked, though...:shrug:

[steve2470]

10. text of First Amendment

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Text

Of course, in this country anyone can say many things about Park51. However, part of the FA includes the Muslims' right to build Park51. Their FA right to religious freedom is just as important as anyone's FA right to freedom of speech.

I agree to disagree with all of its opponents. The religion of Islam did not cause 9-11.

[obxhead]

6. If the objectors cared 1/10th as much for the 9/11 site

as they care about this "mosque" then we would have a magnificent memorial already built and in place at the site of the WTC. We might also be caring for the workers and families affected by the attack and cleanup.

I would love to return the focus to real issues like jobs and our extremely costly occupation of foreign lands.

[Dennis Donovan]

9. Right!

:thumbsup:

[Rhiannon12866]

16. +1. Ah, but this wedge issue is much simpler

Simple enough for small minds to comprehend. Well said. :(

[woo me with science]

7. Huh?

The question is, "Are you opposed to it?"

Your choices are backwards, or you need to rewrite your question.

[Dennis Donovan]

12. oops!

:crazy:

[Ruby the Liberal]

8. How about 'no, I am not opposed, it is private property'

[Dennis Donovan]

13. oops again...

Sorry :blush:

[obxhead]

14. I thought the wording of the answers rather odd myself.

[femmocrat]

11. Is it just me? Or does the question not correlate with the answers?

?

On edit: OK, it's not just me!

[Dennis Donovan]

15. oops x3

:blush:

[Rhiannon12866]

17. Edit?

:shrug:

[Dennis Donovan]

25. Edited the subject line - forgot to edit the body...

:blush:

[Rhiannon12866]

26. You just now missed the deadline.

Try it anyway... :)

[lunatica]

18. Yes.

[SnakeEyes]

19. Poll question in the subject and post dont match

And the choices don't seen to align with the question either.

In addition, if you're going to word the choices this way you should include an option that they have a right to build there but should choose not to out of respect for those offended.

[Dennis Donovan]

23. Those offended are dumb as stumps...

[The Magistrate]

20. Do Not Give A Rat's Ass Either Way, Sir: People Protesting It Are Vicious Bigots

"The first priest was the first grifter, the second, the cleverest serial killer."

[stuntcat]

21. I think it would help everyone for US to make a point of acceptance

I understand peoples' reaction but they need to let go the reflex and try to have peace.

I wasn't sure how to feel about it (I'm an atheist & all I care about is environmental stuff) but then I listened to Interfaith Voices on NPR while ago and the speech the host gave at the end was so frickin touching. The show was really good, I recommend listening online! http://interfaithradio.org/

[steve2470]

22. With all due respect....

you may wish to carefully re-read your entire post and edit again. I think you'll see what I'm referring to.

[Dennis Donovan]

24. Already edited...

:hi:

[stray cat]

27. The conservative anti-abortion church building next to George Tillers house is also ok

they are building a block long conservative christian center to promote civil discourse on abortion and the church's role in society.

[Dennis Donovan]

28. Correct. It's within their rights...

...although it sounds more like harassment of the Tiller family than anything else.

[seabeyond]

31. a place to take away rights. and this center does that? but yes,

even these people that want to take away others rights has the right to build there.

[seabeyond]

29. i am not "in favor" of it cause it has nothing to do with me. i am in favor of the exercise of

right. i am in favor of them being able to without condemnation. in favor of a mosque? meh, who cares.

but i am strongly opposed to people being bigots toward anyone. i am totally opposed to loss fo rights. i am totally opposed to hate being used as a political weapon. i am totally opposed to using the deaths to excalate fear and hate

[Canuckistanian]

30. And they should build ANOTHER one right in front of RNC headquarters

Just for fun.

[awoke_in_2003]

32. I voted "other"...

as in "sick to fucking death of hearing about it"

[grahamhgreen]

33. Yes, BUT this is a distraction from the real issue that we are at war for a lie and

and it's destroying our economy.

Obama waded into this to distract the country from the progressive policies he is not enacting, it's a sad ruse.

[rucky]

34. I can't believe it's even up for debate. n/t

[VMI Dem]

35. They have the right to build it. I'm not going to comment on the wisdom of doing so.

[Vinca]

36. If they can't have the center there, I assume it's time to move

all Catholic churches away from elementary schools. The actions of a few apparently taint entire religions in the minds of some.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

37. I think every business in lower Manhattan should be renamed

to include the words "Ground Zero".

Ground Zero Deli
Ground Zero Bakery
Ground Zero Tool and Die
Ground Zero Trucking
Ground Zero Gentlemen's Club
Ground Zero Dry Cleaners
Ground Zero Coney Island
Ground Zero Pawn Shop
Ground Zero Tattoos
Ground Zero Day Care

Just to de-sensitize the name.

:hi:

[WinkyDink]

38. I vote for "Indifferent."

[DirkGently]

39. Pretty axiomatic that you can't fight religioius intolerance ...

with religious intolerance. D? U? H?

This whole thing is a nasty slap in the face to the very Muslims whom we agree with most -- those who came here to build a life because they value the freedom and tolerance we claim to espouse.

Shameful.

[Rage for Order]

40. Other: I don't favor the current size of the project

My only issue with the project is the size/scope of it - 13 stories, $100 million. They claim to want to serve the local Muslim community, but they will not be able to obtain the majority of the funds needed from the local Muslim community. There is no way this project can be built without soliciting large donations from people with very deep pockets (which will necessarily influence the culture of the community center), e.g. the House of Saud, the Mullahs of Iran, and other groups & governments whose beliefs and goals are directly at odds with the values established in our Constitution.

I would support a community center that's more in line with the needs of the local community - 2 or 3 stories, $10 - $15 million.

[closeupready]

41. I'm neither in favor, nor opposed. It's none of my business.

And frankly, I think it's none of the business of my NYC neighbors, either.

[dem mba]

42. I am for it, my girlfriend is against it

my mother and her boyfriend are against it as well. We all live in Manhattan as well.

I've discovered it to be a strictly emotional issue, and my logical arguments for it don't move the needle much. It's tough, my gf actually cried while we discussed it so I don't bring it up anymore.

She was in Manhattan during 9/11 and is still traumatized. My mom and her bf identify strongly with Israel and the Jewish religion. I think that plays a big part in their opposition to the mosque.

[noamnety]

43. Voted yes but I don't like the poll wording.

It's not that I'm in favor of it; I'm neutral, I don't care if it's built or not.

But I oppose bigotry so I gave a token "support" vote.

[Luciferous]

44. I could honestly care less... my husband doesn't think they should

build it, just because he's worried about the potential for violence against the Muslims using the center.