How many showed up to Becks rally

[brettdale]

According to the media????

According to faux news??????????????

and what was the real crowd number?

[The_Commonist]

1. 79,428

I pulled that number out of my ass.

[Posteritatis]

2. CBC and BBC "tens of thousands," Fox claims "thousands"

So I'd assume something in the low to middle five digit range.

[activa8tr]

3. Over a Bazillion, approaching a Gazillion, and they are still coming!!! Even tho

the rally ended hours ago.

:) :) :)

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. You be the judge

No wonder Fox is reporting only thousands...

This is not what they were expecting.

[Ken Burch]

6. Will they call Beck's address the "I Have No Friends" speech?

:sarcasm:

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Or the this is good news

the RW is truly not that popular. I mean the dramatically falling off the edge right wing.

[niyad]

8. high hundreds, VERY low thousands, I would say.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. It is the second photo where I will give them 5K

and I am being generous.

[lob1]

16. I was watching CNN a hour or so ago, and they

showed an ariel shot of a BIG, BIG crowd. If you are correct, (and I believe you over CNN), then CNN showed shots from a previous gathering. What rotten bastards.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. I know what image you are talking about

and 10K could look that big. I think the big indicator is... the Fox report of only thousands. They know they didn't get the presence they wanted.

Mind you... thousands could be interpreted from 2K to 100K...

And I wasn't there, but I just went through photos posted in the google... and it looks like best case 10K... that is... in the thousands... and good news.

[changed4thebetter]

13. blatant misrepresentation

What are you afraid of?

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Really? you go look them up

http://www.google.com/images?q=beck%20rally&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1024&bih=430

These are the MEDIA images from the rally.

By the way, enjoy your stay.

On edit there is a reason why this photo does not exist either...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LD_Ah5tLKV8/TDdMHXEk0CI/AAAAAAAAFsw/rpHapAl53hQ/s1600/MLK+_IHaveaDream_25.jpg

You figure this out ok.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

22. ABTT

[seabeyond]

25. not a whole lot to be afraid of. with all the free press, from all the channels and news org promot

promotion, there was not much at all. the only reason it was as big of a to do as it is, is cause news made the deal of it.

[LostinVA]

29. OOOOOOOOOO

Saturday Night Special!

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

32. You know what other people that one likes in addition to Beck? Sarah Palin and Joe Arpaio!

I kid you not! Follow the links while you can so you can see I'm not crazy:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=4460217#4460348

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=4459255#4460032

[LostinVA]

36. OOOO -- thanks!

[Nite Owl]

26. Considering how many must have been

bused in it was a dud.

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. I agree. It was a dud

and that is the good news.

[dana_b]

28. Here is an aerial view:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2010/08/28/GA2010082800047.html?sid=ST2010082704942

Ugh! Can't even link to it properly! It's pic #14

In comparison, here is the mall 47 years ago:

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. Thanks for the aerial... my calculation goes a tad up

to 20K best case.

87K... CBS is on drugs...

Thankfully this is a dud.

[KingFlorez]

5. 20 kabillion

It was even more than that, but the media lied.

[Liberal In Texas]

7. Free bus ride and discounted hotels (courtesy of the Kochs)

If they couldn't get at least 100K with that they should be embarrassed.

[AsahinaKimi]

11. SOMEONE posted 500,000 people. Yeah, right... and

Here is a bridge for ya..

[LostinVA]

31. Maybe 500,000 toes and fingers

[EstimatedProphet]

46. No, it would have to be more than that.

10,000 teabillies=120,000 toes.

[backscatter712]

12. Maybe tens of thousands. So much for the Million-Moron March... n/t

[Hoopla Phil]

15. If this picture on FOX is to be believed, then a rather large turnout at its peek.

http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/us/2010/08/28/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-lincoln-memorial-washington-dc/#slide=13

[Kookaburra]

19. It's misleading

As someone in another thread mentioned, if you enlarge the photo you'll notice a lot of green in there and a lot of lawn chairs taking up space.

[Demoiselle]

24. This shot looks grayer and cloudier than the other shot at the Fox website..

It could be my imagination, of course.

[LostinVA]

33. That photo proves the crowd was quite small

As I said several hours ago: look at the grass.

I bet they told the folks to spread out, and I also bet the majority were bussed in.

[RedCloud]

18. Total group IQ only 183!

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

20. Delete, wrong place

[baldguy]

21. So, after 6 months of heavy promotion - they get less than 10K?

That's sad.

[AlinPA]

23. CBS said 87K on the evening news.

[LostinVA]

35. MAYBE, but probably more like 40-50K, tops

I was surprised at the small crowd, because I was betting at least twice as big, after I heard about the buses.

[livetohike]

30. So where are all the millions of people who love Sarah Palin?

You'd think the Teabagger Queen would turn out at least 500,000 if she is so popular and loved. What a wash out this rally was. Promoted for months and months and lots of free press on the msm. It's a joke.

[IDemo]

34. The Jacobs method of crowd size estimation:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28662672/

After gathering data on numerous demonstrations, Jacobs came up with some rules of thumb that still are used today by those serious about crowd estimation. A loose crowd, one where each person is an arm's length from the body of his or her nearest neighbors, needs 10 square feet per person. A more tightly packed crowd fills 4.5 square feet per person. A truly scary mob of mosh-pit density would get about 2.5 square feet per person.

The trick, then, is to accurately measure the square feet in the total area occupied by the crowd and divide it by the appropriate figure, depending on assessment of crowd density. Thanks to aerial photos or mapping applications like Google Earth, even outdoor areas can be readily measured these days.

If you know the total square footage of the areas surrounding the Reflection pool in the photo, you should be able to make a reasonable guess. I would probably use about 8 or 9 as the divisor in the above equation, with several green areas visible within the crowd in the picture.

Or, if you trust the National Park Service estimate 0f 400,000 for the 'Million Man March' in 1995, the area of the below photo represents about the same area as in the pic in the OP (the distance from Capitol to Washington Monument being the same as from Washington Monument to Lincoln Memorial). Al Sharpton threatened to sue over the estimate, which resulted in the Park Service ending the practice of guessing crowd sizes.

[LostinVA]

38. I don't think that's the same distance, it's alot more

Than from the WM to the Lincoln Memorial.

[LostinVA]

40. You are very mistaken in the distance -- I just checked

1.9 from WM to Capitol
1.0 from WM to Lincoln Memorial



That's basically twice as much.

on edit: somne sources say one mile, some 1.9 miles. VERY CONFUSING!

[IDemo]

44. I stand corrected

# From the Capitol steps to the Lincoln Memorial, the Mall runs 1.9 miles (3.0 km).
# From the steps to the Washington Monument, the Mall spans 1.2 miles (1.8 km).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Mall#Dimensions

[luvspeas]

37. thank you!!!!...

I really wanted to see these pictures today. Still gives me chills and I still support my President.

[Imajika]

41. The numbers according to NBC , ABC and CBS

NBC via the NY Times: 300,000

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/us/politics/29beck.html

Officials do not make crowd estimates because they are unreliable and can be controversial, but event organizers put the number of attendees at 500,000; NBC News said it was closer to 300,000, but by any measure it was a large turnout.

Via ABC News: "Hundreds of Thousands"

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-draws-hundreds-thousands/story?id=11504349

Restoring Honor Rally at Sight of MLK's 'I Have a Dream' Speech Draws Hundreds of Thousands of People

Via CBS: 87,000

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20014986-503544.html?tag=cbsContent;cbsCarousel

Approximately 87,000 people attended the rally, according to a crowd estimate commissioned by CBS News. The estimate was made using aerial photos taken at noon, which was judged to be the height of the event. The estimate has a margin of error of 9,000 people.

[LostinVA]

42. AP and the NYT say "tens of thousands"

[Imajika]

45. I guessed 50-100k myself..

It was a large turnout for them, but I doubt if it was more than 100k.

And of course any number their organizers throw out will be inflated by around 10 fold. They claim 500k-1 million, so divide by 10 and you probably have an accurate figure. CBS may have it right at around 85k.

[Saphire]

43. according to the freepers.......over 1 million.

To: hoosiermama
There are people PACKED underneath those tree and there are more in the area of the monument. It was so crowded there I would safely say over 1 million EASY!



90 posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 3:27:53 PM by mikelets456
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To: hoosiermama
Wow! From the original article: “Update 5—This aerial photo indicates the crowd may well number upwards of 1 million!”



75 posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 2:08:57 PM by Elvina (BHO is doubleplus ungood.)
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[EstimatedProphet]

47. "those tree"

If they can't even tell the difference between one tree and multiple trees, I'm not putting much stock into their estimates of how many people are there.

[old mark]

48. NYT stated that the "organizers" of the rally say 500,000...NYT iteslf

says 10's of thousands. I have seen everything from
"thousands" to "a million" (Bachmann),
so I doubt there will be any real numbers...media will probably go with the most inflated number - they seem to be eating Becks shit up.

mark